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Topic: Gibson Console Grande Question
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 04 September 2006 06:47 PM
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Were the legs on the Console Grande adjustable? and if not was this guitar made to be played sitting? |
Patrick Newbery
Member From: San Francisco, California, USA
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posted 04 September 2006 07:22 PM
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mine are adjustable. but I have never set it up for a standing player. |
Blake Hawkins
Member From: Land O'Lakes, Florida
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posted 04 September 2006 08:24 PM
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Both my CG's have adjustable legs and I frequently play standing. |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 04 September 2006 08:30 PM
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Thanks guys, one more question what do the three controls do? I'm gonna guess volume and a tone for each neck??? |
Don Fox
Member From: Idaho, USA
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posted 05 September 2006 07:19 AM
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I have seen a price list/catalog page for the CG-520 from about'56. Could be ordered with adjustable or non-adjustable. Mine has adjustable, but have two early 50's Consolettes with non-adjustable. As far as controls, varies with age / type of CG. What year is yours? |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 05 September 2006 07:51 AM
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The older Console Grande's had three, non-adjustable legs and you just poked them in the hole and gave them a little turn, quite wobbly. The later Console Grande's had four legs and possibly adjustable.
As far as the controls go, one is volume and the other two are tone controls, one for treble and one for bass. Not one for each neck.[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 05 September 2006 at 07:54 AM.] |
Patrick Newbery
Member From: San Francisco, California, USA
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posted 05 September 2006 11:30 AM
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my knobs are wired as one volume per neck, one shared tone (at least that's how I interpret what I am hearing  ) |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 05 September 2006 01:10 PM
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I don't own one yet but am tryin to gather some info on them so I can make a better choice. I've seen a few lately and just can't help but think that they're really gonna go up in price like the Stringmasters have done. |
Jay Yuskaitis
Member From: Massachusetts, USA
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posted 05 September 2006 02:15 PM
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Hi Andy,
My 1952 Console Grande originally had non adjustable legs that were quite wobbly, although, it was about as nice as could be, condition wise. I bought some adjustable legs and mounting flanges from George Piburn a while back, works just great.
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William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 11 September 2006 09:28 PM
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I just bought a mint Console Grande from Gruhn Guitars in Nashville about 2 weeks ago. I also have a 1957 T-8 Stringmaster and Custom 8 Tripleneck Fender from 1950. The Console Grande is killer! Compared to the price of the Stringmasters, I think you get a lot of bang for your buck! I just wish it was 10 pounds lighter. The three knobs on mine are a master volume and two tone knobs. The four legs are ajustable and are tall. |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 11 September 2006 10:19 PM
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William, what year is the Console Grande? and can you post a photo of it? |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 06:14 PM
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Got a little discouraged and leary after the eBay scam but finally found one I really like in super nice condtion even though I had to pay a little more for it. There were a few on ebay that looked good but weren't even close to the condition of the one I bought. I will post some pics of it when I get er![This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 12 September 2006 at 06:15 PM.] |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 07:12 PM
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Great news Andy. If I was buying a non pedal that would be the one! Look forward to seeing pics.Russ |
George Rout
Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 12 September 2006 07:33 PM
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My Console Grande weighs 60 lbs in it's original case, a lot of the weight of course is the telescopic steel legs. And the case has only one handle on it.......by the time you carry the guitar into the site, your arm is an inch longer, and your shoulder is out of joint. It's a beast to carry down stairs.
Mine hasn't been out of the house in years.
George |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 07:46 PM
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You know, I'm wonderin if anyone has replacement adjustable legs that'll work on these guitars. I'm positive the guitar I bought has the non adjustable legs. |
Jim Harper
Member From: Comanche, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 08:44 PM
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I think Don Burrow,s in Ohio can make you some leg,s and he is real reasonable on them. They work great on my P-P==Jim Harper |
William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 12 September 2006 08:47 PM
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The one I got from Gruhn's is a 1950. I will try to post some pics in the next couple of days. |
William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 12 September 2006 08:48 PM
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Does anyone know if they were putting serial numbers on these instruments? I have not been able to find any on my instrument. |
William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 19 September 2006 09:20 PM
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Andy:Here are some pictures of my Console Grande.
http://photos.yahoo.com/53telecaster@sbcglobal.net |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 12:18 AM
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Beautiful guitar William I finally found one myself, same model only a 53'. I'll post some pics tomorrow. |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 08:03 AM
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My Console Grande was, I believe, a special order guitar. It's about a '39, I think. D-7 with the pointed end fretboards, two CC pickups with adjustable polepieces. The fretboard has GIANT pearl block inlays. The biggest pearl fretr markers I've ever seen. And the guitar is black, which of course sounds better! Another strange feature, there are only two long legs! It came with two big floor brackets, that have screwholes in them to fasten it either to the floor, or to a floorboard of some type. I have them fastened to a carpet-covered piece of plywood. Killer-sounding guitar, with just the right number of strings! Needs restoration though. As with many old guitars, it had a home-made string pulling device installed on the inner neck. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 09:16 AM
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I have a sunburst Console Grande like the one pictures except it's older with only 3 legs. I also have a blonde model. One is 7 and 8 and the other is an 8 and 8. I believe they're from around 1948. |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 06:32 PM
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Well at last! I finally found one I liked.
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George Rout
Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 20 September 2006 08:19 PM
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Re the serial numbers, while it's a problem, I think mine has some hand-written number inside under the knob panel. I haven't had that off for almost 50 years. Geo |
William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 20 September 2006 09:52 PM
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Andy, that is one good looking steel. The maple looks like it is on fire! |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 11:09 PM
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I'm really happy with this guitar. I took the tuners out and cleaned and lubed them then I cleaned and polished all the parts that I could take off. I put some new strings on it and fired it up and the tone was just fat and beautiful. I'm still experimenting with the tone controls and amp settings to get er dialed in some more. I've got A6 on the closest neck and C6 on the thicker neck, all though at some point I'm gonna want to try a E6 or E13 on the thicker neck.
[This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 20 September 2006 at 11:11 PM.] |
Harry Dietrich
Member From: Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 06:41 AM
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Being a Gibson afictionado myself, I am sitting here drooling all over my keyboard.Beautiful guitar, Andy. Harry  |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 07:57 AM
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As you can see we did a little photo shoot yesterday
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Stephan Miller
Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 10:01 AM
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Wow, gorgeous...with that nice wide Gibson string spacing and (looks like?) P-90 pickups. Is there a range of adjustment in those legs?--Steve |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 07:44 PM
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Stephan, the legs on this one are not adjustable but the height is perfect for me when seated. I understand that four legs were introduced in about 53' with adjustable legs as an option.  [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 21 September 2006 at 09:43 PM.] |
William Clark
Member From: Chicago, IL USA
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posted 21 September 2006 09:29 PM
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Andy, have you thrown an ohm meter on your guitar to find out what the impedence is on the pickups? The reason that I ask is because my far neck is definitely the higher output on mine. I have mine strung to C6 on the inner neck and A6 on the outer neck. I noticed a difference in the way the two necks sounded. I threw an ohm meter on mine and found out that the close neck measured 9 ohms and the outer neck measured 10.1 ohms. I wonder if Gibson intentionally overwound the pickups for the outer neck or if it was just an inconsistancy in manufacture at that time. |
Bill Creller
Member From: Saginaw, Michigan, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 09:31 PM
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That sure is a beauty. I have thought about one since a discussion on the forum, around last winter I believe. It sounds like a heavy rig to lug around, but some of the Hawaiians have wheels on thier cases with a handle on the end to drag it around. |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 10:03 PM
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William, no I haven't measured the output but both pickups sound pretty even to my ears. I put the lighter gauge C6 on the thicker neck and a slightly heavier gauge A6 on the thinner closer neck to balance out the two tunings. You might try swappin your tunings to see if that helps.Bill, the shippin weight was 35 pounds in the case. I'm not plannin on luggin this one around too much so for me it's not a big problem. Even so, after luggin my Fender Twin around for so long this guitar is light in comparison. 
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 22 September 2006 02:10 PM
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Does anyone know, is there a way to adjust these pickups? |
Roger Shackelton
Member From: Everett, Wa.
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posted 22 September 2006 02:26 PM
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Hi Andy, Have you considered trying this
B-11th tunning?B-11th 1 E
2 C#
3 A
4 F#
5 D#
6 B
7 A
8 B
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 22 September 2006 03:01 PM
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Hi Rodger, I've got this tuning on my Fender T-8
1.E
2.C#
3.A
4.F#
5.D#
6.C#
7.A
8.F#
I think Jerry Byrd used this one. I really like the sound of B11. On yours, what gauge do you use on that low B?[This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 22 September 2006 at 03:04 PM.] |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 24 September 2006 11:19 PM
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The way Jerry Byrd explained it to me in a letter several years ago the B11 he used on his Sho-Bud was like this:
B11 –––– Basic-C6/A7 –––– My Gauges
#1. E––––––––––E––––––––––.015p
#2. C#–––––––––C––––––––––.018p
#3. A––––––––––A––––––––––.022p
#4. F#–––––––––G––––––––––.024w
#5. D#–––––––––E––––––––––.030w
#6. C#–––––––––C#–––––––––.036w
#7. A––––––––––C––––––––––.038w
#8. Lo-B–––––––Lo-A–––––––.070w
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“Big John”
a.k.a. {Keoni Nui}
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