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Topic: single 10 string for C6
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Kevin Ruddell
Member From: Toledo Ohio USA
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posted 20 March 2005 04:53 AM
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I know very little about PSG and don't play E9 , only C6 and A6. Most of the single ten PSG's I see for sale have the 3 pedal 4 knee lever setup although the C6 setup generally seems to be 5 pedals and 1-4 knee levers. Were there any good ( non student models ) Pedal Steels made that have a suitable arrangement for C6. I have a Fender 1000 I love that a fellow forum member sold me but it weighs a ton and I have lower back problems and hence the thought of getting something lighter that has at least 1 or 2 knee levers. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can offer. |
David Mason
Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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posted 20 March 2005 05:38 AM
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There's a parallel thread on converting an E9th steel to C6th here: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/009815.html
If you want to play most conventional C6th music, you really will need to add another pedal, at least (I think you can get by without the 1st {4th on a doubleneck}). The minimal modern standard E9th changes take 3 pedals + 4 levers = 7 changes. The old standard C6th used to be 5 + 1, but most people are using a lot more. I had a 10 string singleneck C6th built with 5 + 4, and I could easily use 6 + 5. You can look at the tunings b0b has listed here for some ideas: http://b0b.com/tunings/index.html |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 20 March 2005 07:18 AM
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Keven-You can convert an E9 S10 to a 6th Tuning with 3 pedals and 3 or 4 knee levers, even just 1 if you have to. I have done it, but I now have 6 pedals and 5 knee levers on my Sho-Bud Pro 1 S10. I tune to E6 so it is the same bar positions as E9. But here is what you need for C6--- Check out a standard C6 copedant(tuning)...
then use Pedal 5-6-7 on the floor and 1 knee lever flat the C to B(3rd string).
With this setup you can play 90% of C6 you hear. I put P7 on a knee lever and then just mostly use P 5 and P6 with that to play most of my stuff.I hardly ever move my foot off P 5-and P 6.
However--- It is nice to have more pedals and Knees if you can , to get a more complete copedant. So you can make do with what you got, but it is better to get the whole thing....al  . ------------------
My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus/ |
Dave Van Allen
Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 20 March 2005 09:49 AM
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I do know the late forumite Harry Hess had a single ten Emmons, custom made to be a C6th guitar; not typical, but then not much that Harry did was typical. He told me it indicated his "dedication" to applying himself to the tuning. RIP HH |
Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 20 March 2005 10:21 AM
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I have an S-10 C6 that was converted from an E9, with 3+5. I have pedals 5,6, and 7 on the floor, dropped out pedal 4, and dropped pedal 8. My KLs raise and lower both As and raise both Cs, and lower the 3rd string C. My vertical KL is currently unassigned; I'll decide that later. I feel I can do without Pedal 8 pretty easily since raising the 7th string C to C# gets me a lot of what that pedal does, except for lowering strings 9 and 10, which I don't need all that often. |
David Mason
Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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posted 20 March 2005 01:48 PM
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I still haven't figured out what pedal 4 (my pedal 1) is for, unless it's to play melancholy jazz ballads, which I don't do any of. Mine is basically gathering dust until I get brave enough to try some of Paul Franklin's stuff on there, I guess when I've totally mastered everything else? Yeah right. However, I do find that the boo-wah pedal, pedal 8 (my pedal 5) is really useful if you can get a good EQ going so that the lower strings sound good high up the neck. They can sound almost cello-like, and there's some neat-o forward slants available up there. I have to use a graphic EQ to get what I like, but there may be some amp or another that will do it - I certainly haven't tried that many. I know that in the now-antique Doug Jernigan "Home Study Course" he's got the boo-wah hooked up, and he gets a really nice tone on that part of the neck. |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 20 March 2005 05:39 PM
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Jim-It Looks like you have an excellent C6 setup with a minimum. of pedals.That's what I like, "Lean and Mean"........al ------------------
My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus/ |
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