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Curry Coster
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posted 24 August 2000 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curry Coster     
Susan-
"Limited on single string playing"
"Limited as to what chords you can produce"

Joaquin Murphey and Curly Chalker are rolling over in their graves.

Respectfully,
Curry


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posted 24 August 2000 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johan Jansen     
Still not seeing through, guys???
Thanks for the nice discussion, Bob!
cya.JJ

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Joe Miraglia
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posted 24 August 2000 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Miraglia     
Wow--three pages ! As for playing "Night Life" on C6 or E9, does it have to be played just like Buddy E. plays it? Can't we be original? As far as I am concerned, I can't play it anyway. I think I will go practice my new A6 tuning on the back neck. Back to the original topic, C6 is a good tuning and lives on, but I like to experiment. I can't get everything on it, but I can't learn to play everything anyway,so I'm having fun playing my hybrid A6th/E/6th--- Oh who cares anyway .Joe


Al Marcus
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posted 24 August 2000 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Marcus     
Susan
You are so right on that overused 6th pedal.
I hardly ever use it.
I get my IV chord F by dropping my 3rd (E)6th string and 5th(G)5th string a whole tone.

I use the 5th pedal all the time with the 7th pedal and the D on the first string.

I get the 6th pedal minor a lot by using 5th pedal up 3 frets, I do use the 6th pedal with the 5th for my diminished and use it of course with pedal 7 for Aug 11th.

I also do recommend 4 picks, for sure. As you mentioned. About 32 years ago, Reece told me to stick that pick on and after a short while I would be using it.(thanks Reece). He was right!
I just love those 4 finger grips for chords! It is really the only way to get all those full inversions.
Joe, how you doing with that E6? Folks all the above I wrote relates to the E6th tuning too. I just tune all my strings up 2 whole tones from C to E.
Same pulls on pedals. Now my IV chord is an A6! It is a brighter sound than C6. More like E9th.
......good post....al

[This message was edited by Al Marcus on 24 August 2000 at 08:17 PM.]



louie hallford
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posted 25 August 2000 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for louie hallford     
Kyle,it is not he end of the subject yet.

There are some good versions of Night Life being played on E9. See Jeff Newman tab for one of them. It really makes you think .

I still prefer the C6 versions, of Night Life,especially Emmons'. Its like John Hughey's version of Look at Us.There is no way to improve either version since they the standard was set so high when they first recorded them. But isn't it fun to try.

Bobby Lee
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posted 25 August 2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
I've played in a lot of bands, and none of them did "Night Life". Go figure. It's just not a popular tune out here. Most people have never heard it.

It's pretty hard to justify carrying around all that extra weight to play a song that nobody wants to hear.

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posted 25 August 2000 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenny Dail     
I don't play Night Life but I do use variations of the intro in other music. I use a similar voicing for "Girl from Ipanema" and as a filler in some swing stuff. I use it as a prelucde to the instrumental break in Hank Thompson's classic, "Honky Tonk Angels", "Bubbles In My Beer" and as another poster indicated, he uses it as a closer for "Sleepwalk". Just because you may not play the original voicing or song, it doesn't mean it can't have other applications by just simply varying the tempo.

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Jeff Lampert
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posted 25 August 2000 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
If we're talking about opportunites to play C6 other than "Nightlife", there are always 5-6 songs that my band plays that call for that tuning. One mid-west player who I speak to regularly plays this stuff 50% of the time. However, over here in New York City, we mix this together with top 40 country from the past 10 years, a few older country numbers, and some classic rock from the 60's (on which I play a Rickenbacker 12-string or Ovation acoustic). The C6 that we're currently doing:

1. Crazy (Classic)
2. Long-neck bottle (Garth Brooks)
3. Burning The Road-House Down (Steve Wariner)
4. Dance With Who Brung You (Asleep At The Wheel
5. Smoke That Cigarette (Classic)
6. I'll Take Texas (Vince Gill)
7. Little Ramona (BR-549)

These songs cover various swing, rockabilly, pop, and torch styles, but are all suitable to the C6.
I introduced my group to a classic from the 1920's called "Song of the Wanderer" which was done by Asleep At The Wheel, Curly Chalker, as well, I understand, by iconic jazzmen such as Count Basie. It should be interesting.

[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 27 August 2000 at 05:25 AM.]



John Kavanagh
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posted 26 August 2000 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Kavanagh     
...you never know when a good sound will come back. I might point out that there are a lot more people playing the harpsichord now than there were fifty years ago, and the ukulele seems to around again, too...

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Moon in Alaska
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posted 27 August 2000 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
I thought I would move this one to the top so Bob could have 3 post together !!


Susan Alcorn
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posted 27 August 2000 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan Alcorn     
Curry,

I loved Curley Chalker's playing and I have bought and worn out every album he ever made, and I loved Joaquin Murphy. I am definitely not a critic of their (or anyone else's) playing. To ME and perhaps to ME only is the C6th tuning limited -- and I didn't abandon it, I modified it.

If you're into playing just like Curley Chalker or Juaquin Murphy or Doug Jernigan or Buddy Emmons or Jimmy Day (all of them wonderful players), then stay with that tuning. Hoever . . . listen closely to their chords, and listen closely to their single string playing. I think you'll find som commonalities in their styles. For one, they tend to play more diatonically on the top strings, and more arpeggiated on the bottom strings. When they make chords, the chords are voiced roughly the same way all the time. These people were and are some of the greatest musicians ever to happen to play the steel guitar, and they are all pioneers. But after a certain amount of time, you have to abandon hero worship if it gets in the way, and listen very very closely to your heart and your own voice. Be yourself -- on C6th, E 9th or whatever.

Kenny Dail
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posted 27 August 2000 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenny Dail     
How can any student or accomplished Steeler "disqualify" any tuning?

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Bob Anderson
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posted 27 August 2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Anderson     


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