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Randy Beavers Member Posts: 741 |
posted 05 May 2006 04:55 AM
Marvin, first of all, Buddy did not receive his guitar for free. (Not that it's any of your business.) This is the way he insisted it be. Second, do you really think anyone could talk him into playing something he didn't like? |
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Jim Sliff Member Posts: 2529 |
posted 05 May 2006 05:30 AM
"but I've heard some guitar players will endorse an amp but have the guts taken out and their favorite amps installed. " That's ancient news, and not the case nowadays. With barely any manufacturers giving away equipment for free...artist relation deals are dealer cost less a certain percentage, no matter who you are...that's just no the case any longer. Same with the offstage hidden amp thing. This was all stuff that happened 30 years ago. It's pretty obvious not too many folks around here have ever HAD an artist relations relationship with any major manufacturer - I see the same rumor-mill stuff posted over and over. Call one of the big guns - Fender, Mesa, PRS, Gibson, etc - ask for artist relations. Ask questions. If they will give you the time of day (most will be courteous) they'll explain how it works and what it takes to qualify. But the truckloads of free equipment don't exist any longer. Even in the 70's often endorsees used equipment that was actually owned by the manufacturer - including major bands. One example - The Byrds in the 70's didn't own any of their stage amps except Clarence White's Super Reverb. The rest was supplied by CBS. |
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Larry Gerdeman Member Posts: 28 |
posted 05 May 2006 07:17 AM
Thanks Randy good post. Larry |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 05 May 2006 08:06 AM
James!!> Not trying to be smart here. This is the last thing i would do To theBIG-E.>But if had pratice his reading maybe he would have not sign away his name. ------------------ |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 05 May 2006 09:02 AM
ED!!> You are dead right on that one. Just proves my point a little more. you pay, they will play. any steel |
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Damir Besic Member Posts: 2326 |
posted 05 May 2006 02:21 PM
quote: I don`t think he could practice enough to understand your posts,sorry dude. Buddy Emmons is the biggest legend in the steel guitar world and Emmons company is a tief who stoled his name ,that is what it is and that is how is gonna go down in history. Db ------------------ |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 05 May 2006 06:11 PM
Demir!> good put down. First of all i don;t have to drive a truck for a living.I don't think that they stole his name. To my understanding>BUDDY>owned>20%>of the company.He sold his part>to Fred trodgen.he just signed the wrong papers,i guess. I play music for a living. and have for many years.i have played in 35 states in this free country. and over sea's as well. sorry that you have took this the wrong way. Again i repeat>i hate to see the emmons company having trouble. >>marvin |
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Pat Kelly Member Posts: 425 |
posted 06 May 2006 03:54 AM
Incredible. |
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Tony Prior Member Posts: 4672 |
posted 06 May 2006 05:06 AM
how do you know they are having trouble? Are you a member of the family business or a co-owner who can speak with authority ? Do you have in depth conversations with Ron Jr daily about his business plan ? Or are you just like me.. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 08:06 AM
PAT AND TONY> It is very plain too see. i only live about 100 miles from the factory.Things sure are not the way they should be. you can tell that when >you walk in the door. they are not geting out the guitars on time. there is only two people working ,puting a guitar togater, i love them there at emmons ,just wish that he would get his act togater. |
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Mark Edwards Member Posts: 376 |
posted 06 May 2006 08:14 AM
And I paid my Five bucks for this, thought I would be getting some great steel guitar tips, and fellowship from my fellow steelers. |
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Farris Currie Member Posts: 3798 |
posted 06 May 2006 08:20 AM
MARVIN, Not bashing you, just wondering what set you off!!!!!!!! Facts are said from the main source that YOU HAVENT EVEN BEEN THERE TO THE FACTORY IN A LONG TIME!!!!!!!! I am very interested to WHAT YOU WERE DOING I really like the way you say YOU LOVE THEM. |
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Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2006 12:51 PM
The Zum is not a freebie. I pay or trade for guitars in order to avoid the politics involved with an endorsement deal. I’m down to three pedal steels now: a Zum, Sierra, and a push/pull (The Blade), and am comfortable knowing I can take any or all of them any place I want and play without incident. As Bill Ferguson said, the Lord did not give me my email address or my phone number but here’s an example of why one would choose to keep certain personal information from the public. When my home phone number was available through Buddy Emmons Music, I used to get foul mouthed calls on my answering machine from someone in North Carolina, accusing me of flying over his house and spying on him. He said he knew it was me because when he looked up he could see me looking down at him through one of the windows. Another of several more wacky accusations was my sending a radio frequency to him from Nashville and zapping him in the eye while he slept. After I had my number changed he started calling Scotty’s Music, the Nashville musician’s union, Weldon Myrick, and Jeff Newman. I had him checked out and found he was an overly medicated local nuisance. If I could have had my way he’d be in a rubber room wearing paper slippers. As for my interest in the Emmons Guitar Company, I had no twenty percent ownership to sell to Fred Trogden; ever. So you might want to weigh other things he or she may have told you regarding my relationship with the company and take it for what it’s worth. Passing on this sort of second hand information brings to mind an adage from the book of a martial arts master, which is: “Those who say don’t know and those who know don’t say.” While living in California I hired an attorney to investigate my status with the Emmons Guitar Company and found my “partnership” contract was nothing more than a carefully worded agreement for royalties. When I discovered I had no ownership, I was so incensed I told my lawyer to do whatever it took to get me a release. A year or so before, I was persuaded to sign my half of the patent over to the company; so the only leg I would have had left to stand on was gone. To get my release, one of the stipulations was to give them the right to keep the name Emmons Guitar Inc., so I agreed. These facts are a matter of record due to another legal wrangling I had with the company in a Nashville court in the mid 1980’s. For the sake of the Emmons Legrande owners and potential buyers, I hope this gloom and doom scenario is all overblown nonsense and Ron Jr. can keep the doors open for them and their needs. But from my personal standpoint, I wouldn’t care if it went under tomorrow. My contribution was the designing of the Emmons push/pull model. That and my name pretty much sums up any meaningful relationship I ever had with the company. |
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Farris Currie Member Posts: 3798 |
posted 06 May 2006 12:59 PM
GOD BLESS YOU BUDDY, you didn't have to say a word, but that shows all you are a NUMBER ONE MAN!!! Now i pray this crap will all stop, and MARVIN WILL GO CRAWL IN A HOLE WHERE HE BELONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I'VE BOUGHT A EMMONS LEGRAND2 and am looking forward to getting it tooooooooo. BUDDY EMMONS IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Larry Bell Member Posts: 4116 |
posted 06 May 2006 01:07 PM
What a class act! I guess we've seen both ends of the spectrum on this thread. (great quote, BTW) ------------------ |
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Mike Weirauch Member Posts: 3528 |
posted 06 May 2006 01:17 PM
quote: I told you I was sorry about that. quote: I really wish you would stop that so I can get a good nights sleep for a change. |
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Mark Eaton Member Posts: 1190 |
posted 06 May 2006 01:22 PM
" I used to get foul mouthed calls on my answering machine from someone in North Carolina, accusing me of flying over his house and spying on him. He said he knew it was me because when he looked up he could see me looking down at him through one of the windows." Mr. Emmons, I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time-but I almost spit my Dr. Pepper all over the keyboard after reading this one! ------------------ |
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Charlie McDonald Member Posts: 3737 |
posted 06 May 2006 01:38 PM
quote: Whether Lao Tzu or Sun Tzu, it's a wise man who holds his water as long as he can, but not longer. quote: He sounds pretty well read to me! |
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Don McClellan Member Posts: 882 |
posted 06 May 2006 05:25 PM
Yes indeed, Buddy, you are a class act and a thoughtful writer. Not once did you print the word idiot. However, reading between the lines I thought I spotted it repeatedly. I had never meet or even heard of Marvin Stegall before yesterday but I feel compelled now to apologize to you for him for making you sit and waste your time clearing up stupid gossip about your private buisness affairs. We've hit rock bottom here lately. Don |
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Paul King Member Posts: 1579 |
posted 06 May 2006 06:12 PM
Thanks Buddy Emmons for stepping up and setting the record straight. I have a problem with someone bringing up your name and the things of the past. As Randy Beavers stated, it really is no ones business. I see Buddy Emmons as a great steel player and a first class individual who has feelings just as we all do. Surely there is something we can discuss better than what happened between Buddy and the Emmons Guitar company. I believe Buddy Emmons deserves more respect than this to have this brought up and him being drug through the mud. I guess I am just a big Buddy Emmons fan and want to see him treated better. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:20 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:23 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:25 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:27 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:28 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:31 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:32 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:33 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Yes i have been told many things about that. I have not had any meaning to hurt you or your name. Far as the lord gives >i think he gave out everthing. e mail Yes i understand about the crank phone calls. i asure you thati am not inchoate. As i said to me You are the best. And i hate to see the way you have been done by that company.it just wasnot fair,if not for you there would not be a emmons co. |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:47 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Guess that i would feel the same way also. That matter is cleared up. Far as those who know>do not say, i just happen to hear it from the man him self, all was wonder about that.But i will tell you that im am not inchoate all your prank calls may have been from another planet, not mine. AND YES I THINK THE THAT GOD GAVE YOU YOUR KNOW HOW AND E MAIL, AND PHONE NUMBERS |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:50 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Guess that i would feel the same way also. That matter is cleared up. Far as those who know>do not say, i just happen to hear it from the man him self, all was wonder about that.But i will tell you that im am not inchoate all your prank calls may have been from another planet, not mine. AND YES I THINK THE THAT GOD GAVE YOU YOUR KNOW HOW AND E MAIL, AND PHONE NUMBERS |
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Marvin Stegall Member Posts: 90 |
posted 06 May 2006 10:52 PM
BUDDY!! Very well said. Guess that i would feel the same way also. That matter is cleared up. Far as those who know>do not say, i just happen to hear it from the man him self, all was wonder about that.But i will tell you that im am not inchoate all your prank calls may have been from another planet, not mine. AND YES I THINK THE THAT GOD GAVE YOU YOUR KNOW HOW AND E MAIL, AND PHONE NUMBERS |
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richard burton Member Posts: 1337 |
posted 07 May 2006 12:01 AM
I'm getting a distinct feeling of deja vu  |
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Ben Jones Member Posts: 562 |
posted 07 May 2006 12:35 AM
first octapost Ive ever seen. ...hehe. I wondered who that bowler hatted gentleman circling my house in a spyplane occasionally zapping me in the eye was...now i know. That explains those weird radio stations the filings in my teeth have been picking up lately too. This is possibly the greatest thread in the admittedly brief the history of the internet. hats off to everyone and god bless us all. |
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Peter Member Posts: 1192 |
posted 07 May 2006 01:04 AM
I think Uncle b0b needs to set the flood control to 5 minutes! If you want to see a message you just posted, ALWAYS hit F5 AFTER you posted...that will update your screen and show up your post. [This message was edited by Peter on 07 May 2006 at 06:02 AM.] |
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Billy Carr Member Posts: 1368 |
posted 07 May 2006 02:33 AM
What Buddy has done for steel guitar cannot be measured. His signature licks, etc. will always remain a part of PSG history. Many players including myself will usually stop what we're doing when we hear BE on the radio or TV. He's the master. While it's certainly no secret that HUGHEY is my all time favorite player, I still love BE's playing and I have the utmost respect for this man. As far as people posting such things as what's in this one(not mine), it's easy to post comments, good and bad, especially when there thousands of miles away and don't have to face people. That's easy! Just leave BE and the rest of the guys alone. I myself am devoted 110% to PSG and it's players and I'm sure I'm not the only one that is offended by such crap! |
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Tony Prior Member Posts: 4672 |
posted 07 May 2006 05:04 AM
welcome to the department of redundancy department... Marvin, check your shoes.. Thanks Buddy, and stop flying over my house, I want you to know I bought a BB gun...and I have a very tall tree in the back yard...with a little wooden seat at at the top..where I sit and wait for you to fly by everyday... and I have an 80's Legrande , if that counts for anything.. [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 07 May 2006 at 05:06 AM.] |
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Randy Beavers Member Posts: 741 |
posted 07 May 2006 05:15 AM
B0b, this is your chance to do something. I for one do not want to weed through Marvin's post every time I log on. I've seen on other Forums the ability to set your preferences to "ignore" certain people, so you don't have to ever view what they've written. Can that be an option here? This is MY Forum too, and I don't want to see it degraded to this level. Randy |
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Charlie McDonald Member Posts: 3737 |
posted 07 May 2006 05:39 AM
You can say that again! (Just funnin' with ya, Marvin. |
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David L. Donald Member Posts: 9457 |
posted 07 May 2006 05:44 AM
Marvin, whatever your motives; This has not been a pleasent thread. You came across as inarticulate, To get Randy B. this pissed off takes some work.. Give it a rest please. You are shooting a dead horse, [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 May 2006 at 05:51 AM.] |
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Bo Borland Member Posts: 675 |
posted 07 May 2006 05:51 AM
Besides the obvious need for flood control, and of course we can't be sure if the flood of posts is accidental or just a lack of understanding about how the forum or computers work. I use my own filtering device, after reading the very first post of this new member, I decided not to read any more. |
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