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gary darr Member Posts: 294 |
posted 20 October 2000 02:48 PM
I play a sho bud pro ll,thinking about changing the C-6 neck to have a spare E-9 or just to experiment with. It seems like it would be nice if you broke a string you could switch to your backup neck and never miss a beat. Has anyone ever tried this or have any advise for or against doing this? ------------------ |
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Donny Hinson Member Posts: 9192 |
posted 20 October 2000 03:03 PM
Ain't never heard that one, Gary! But, I guess if you really wanted to do something neat, you could have the same tuning...but an octave lower. Of course, you'd have to "custom guage" the strings yourself by trial-and-error, but you would get some really unique sounds this way! Fender once made a straight guitar called the "Bass VI". It was exactly like a Jaguar, but strung an octave lower. Or........you could get some C6th lessons! |
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gary darr Member Posts: 294 |
posted 20 October 2000 05:49 PM
Wish I could find a good C-6th teacher around these parts,not to many musicians around here.I love the C-6th style and play alot of the style on my E-9 neck. Maybe I'll try D-9 if there's something like that  ------------------ |
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Earnest Bovine Member Posts: 4687 |
posted 20 October 2000 05:59 PM
What a waste! The two tunings on a double neck should be as different as possible. I think Paul Franklin has a neck of E9 an octave lower than you would expect. But he also has C6 and regular E9 on that guitar. |
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gary darr Member Posts: 294 |
posted 20 October 2000 06:55 PM
I can understand the feeling of wasting a neck ,but you have not heard me try to play on C-6th either ha ha.I was just thinking of tinkering with a neck that I usually use for a armrest.  ------------------ |
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Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
posted 20 October 2000 09:45 PM
quote: Or ... you could live on the edge and put on a new .011 before a gig. |
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Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
posted 20 October 2000 09:55 PM
Here is my Letter to the Editor in Steel Guitar World Magazine, Issue #31, Feb-Mar 1997: As we all know, there are thousands of double-neck pedal steel guitars set up with the standard E9/C6 tunings. What percentage of those guitars actually have a fresh set of strings on the C6 neck? More likely than not, the back neck has become a convenient arm rest while playing the E9 tuning. It occured to me that with a little bit of effort, that back neck could be converted to another E9 neck. Why not have a double-neck set up with E9/E9 tunings? The guitar could be set up with the first three pedals operating the front E9 and the next three pedals operating the back E9. All knee levers would work on both necks. When that pesky third string pops, just flip a switch, change necks, and keep picking. A different type or brand of pickup could be installed on the back neck, in order to get two distinct sounds out of one guitar. In fact, each neck could have its own output jack. Each neck could then drive its own amplifier to further diversify the tone options. This would be quite nice for those of you who use a Dobro simulator. For those of you who get tired of your arms turning green from those old, corroded strings on the C6 neck, you might want to try it out. It seems to me that it would at least give you some peace of mind. Just think. No more nightmares about breaking a string in the middle of a song. The back neck can become your "back-up" neck. Lee, from South Texas |
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Jack Stoner Sysop Posts: 8119 |
posted 21 October 2000 03:19 AM
I know that most of the "commercial" steel is done on the E9th. But why not try and do something with the C6th. There's a lot on there even without using the pedals. The C6th was basically an arm rest for me too the first couple of years but I made an effort and got some instructional material and started working on it. You don't need a personal tutuor, there is a lot of good self study information around. Jeff Newman has C6th material, Herby Wallace has some excellent practical material for C6th and there are others that offer C6th instructional material. A little effort and it will become a useful tool rather than excess baggage. |
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boppa unregistered Posts: 8119 |
posted 22 October 2000 05:40 PM
gary i would not do that. i don,t live very far from you and i would be glad to help.you will alway,s use the c-6th on most all western-swing.you will be glad you didn,t. jim harper ------------------ |
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Bill Rowlett Member Posts: 664 |
posted 27 October 2000 07:33 AM
Gary, Joe Finley, an acomplished player who worked for Sho-Bud a number of years, sets his Pro II Custom up with E9th tunings on both front and back necks. When he breaks a string, he just switches necks. You can get a workable sixth tuning for the odd swing song from the E9th by just lowering the E's a half tone. Joe is on the Forum ocasionally, so he might respond. Bill |
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Joe Miraglia Member Posts: 771 |
posted 27 October 2000 04:01 PM
C6/A6/E6 makes no difference--tune it anyway you like. Don't use the second neck just for an armrest--experiment. If you have yours set to C6 like the Big Boys or the Big E, you can modify the tuning to learn your playing and style. First string does not have to be D--there is no law that says you can't change it to G. Nineth string usually is F, so tune it to G--are you going to lose that much? In the same breath we are talking about changing the entire neck--start with a couple of strings. Change the eighth pedal--set it up anyway you like. It is your steel, you can do whatever you want with it. You will find out you will enjoy the steel--it doesn't have to sound like everyone else. By all means, leave the E9 alone so that you can play your gigs  . Joe |
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