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Jim Bob Sedgwick
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posted 18 January 2002 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Bob Sedgwick     
I've found that playing with musicians that are better than I am, helps my creativity and gives a jump start to improving. BE said something similar on the liner notes of his Bob Wills singing album. Buddy also stated that he had been practicing 4 to 6 hours daily for many many years. Now THAT's Persistence. JMO


Bill Hankey
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posted 19 January 2002 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Lem S.,

While in the process of relating to
one another, steel guitarists have
similar tendencies of the national
weathermen. That is to say, that
some are vague, while others are
inclined to overstate. We have a
coined phrase here in New England,
with emphasis on the unpredicted
forecasts that have the greatest
impact, before weathermen have a
clue. These are traits found in
the steel guitar developmental
process. Silence can be the most
devastating of all, in the making
of a great steel guitarist. The
term "woodshed" says it all.

Bill Hankey

[This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 19 January 2002 at 04:36 AM.]



Dirk B
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posted 19 January 2002 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk B     
I'm sorry to have been away from the Forum since Ricky added his post -- glad someone like him agrees with me! I meant the same thing you mean by "persistence" when I said "determination."


Cal Sharp
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posted 19 January 2002 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cal Sharp     
I don't think anybody's mentioned LUCK. Yeah, I know, "you make your own luck", but were you lucky enough to have a Dad who started you out on steel as a child, like Buddy and Paul? Were you lucky enough to live somewhere where there were good musicians who would take the time to help you along? Were you fortunate enough to have any good teachers?

No matter how much natural talent you may have, it's not likely to come to full fruition unless you get a good early start, and you can't pick your parents or your hometown.

C#

Ron Shepard
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posted 19 January 2002 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ron Shepard     
Bill, I've always thought it comes from the heart first. Without that a player could not
progress to higher level. The greats have that heart.


Bill Hankey
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posted 20 January 2002 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Ron S.

I've heard about your dedicated
practice sessions, and the amazing
progress you've made. Your home is
near the Northampton area where
hundreds of national entertainers
visit each year. It is by far the variety center for every musically
oriented person seeking to observe
at close range, great artists, with
a lifetime of accomplishments. The
steel guitarists, usually featured
in visiting bands, have been seen
on numerous occasions. These visits
provide the additional incentive,
that could prove to be helpful in
maintaining a vigorous approach to
overcoming difficult aspects of
steel guitar developmental stages.
Wear out your picks, pedals, and
strings! The more you care, the
more you wear! Thanks for your input. Keep up the good work.

Bill H.



RON PRESTON
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posted 20 January 2002 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RON PRESTON     
Jonny Carson ask Joe Cocker once on his show, "Joe, why are you still on top, and most of the other "GREAT BANDS" have faded out"? Joe simply replied...(and I LOVE IT) "I am not the worlds greatest musician, I just mean it"! That has always stuck with me through the years. Sacrifice, IMHO, has a lot to do with it, I belive also.


Bill Ford
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posted 20 January 2002 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Ford     
Bob G. Has a good point,when I was playing on a regular weekend gig,I found that the more I played the better I was,wheather it's play time or practice time you still exersise and try new things and when you do practice you remember your mistakes and correct them.
I also agree with natural talent,musical family,and practice.Also it helps to be lucky enough to land a playing job you can make a living at.
Bill


Bill Hankey
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posted 21 January 2002 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
I'm beginning to believe that steel
guitarists who have a good handle
on the steel, should refrain from
spending interminable hours trying
to work their way up the ladder of
accomplishments, by obtaining the
most advanced methods either in
written material, or attending a
seminar that points out difficult
techniques. Go predetermined, that
you will not take no for an answer.
The solution to flying with eagles,
is to go visit those heights, and
don't give in to seemingly arduous
tasks, by looking for early results
in the upper echelon division. Try
to keep in mind that the greats of
steel guitar are just as prone to
error, as all others in the human
race. There is a need to rekindle
the confidence, that will drive out
any hidden intimidation, that may
be blocking progress in reaching
designated goals. Try to identify
one's most proficient style, go
with it, and never look back.

Bill H.


[This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 22 January 2002 at 06:48 AM.]



Phil Coontz
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posted 21 January 2002 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil Coontz     
Many,many years of six and seven nite a week beer joint jobs.A whole lotta gittin afterit. Keep diggin you'll git yer hole dug... Phil.


Bill Hankey
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posted 22 January 2002 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Phil C.

The last hole that was dug, took
place in Alaska, when the steel
guitarist who gave up playing after
6 years on the road, to pan for
gold in Alaska. He buried his steel
guitar deep, and placed a tombstone
inscribed, "Here lies the heart of"
of which he added his name. Perhaps
someone on the forum knows his
name. I read the account in a hard
cover book over 15 years ago. The
book was written solely about the
eariest modes or techniques, to
most modern steel guitar developments. I wish there was
some way to check on the rest of
the story.

Bill H.


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