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Topic: Nashville 400 vs. Nashville 1000
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Bill Fulbright
Member From: Atlanta, GA
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posted 29 March 2001 09:32 PM
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I know this is probably not a new thought or thread, but since I don't see one already started, here it is.I am very familiar with the 400, and am ready to buy one, but got to thinking after reading the stuff on the Peavey site about the 1000. Does anyone have direct experience with the difference between the two? 1. Tone
2. Voicing
3. Features I would sell my Peavey Classic 50-410 to raise the money to get the 1000... One other thing, where would an Evans fit into the scheme of things? I know, it's a whole 'nother topic. But I thought I'd sneak it in.... ------------------
Bill Fulbright
ICQ# 2251620
1998 Sierra U12 7x5; '74 Schecter Strat; Gibson ES-165; Peavey Classic 50-410. [This message was edited by Bill Fulbright on 29 March 2001 at 09:34 PM.]
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Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 30 March 2001 03:38 AM
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Do a search for this subject and you will find several threads comparing and talking about the Nashville amps.Just because there is nothing current doesn't mean there is nothing about this. This is about the same for a lot of subjects. Usually they have been discussed before and doing a search will usually turn up a lot of information. This doesn't mean "don't open a new thread", just that many times the questions or information is in the forum archives.
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Mark Kelchen
Member From: Cedar Rapids, Iowa USA
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posted 30 March 2001 03:47 AM
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I am not up to snuff on the 1000. Currently I use a Nashville 400 and a 1977 Session 400.
The original JBL in the Session was just replaced with a new 1501 Black Widow and the LeMay retro kit was installed. I feel the tone quality and the response of the Session has always been far superior to that on the Nashville. The Nashville is a great amp but it just doesn't seem to compare with the Session before or after the speaker replacement and mod kit. I am just starting on steel and both amps perform fine for what I am doing there so I am basing this on 6 string.
1970s Sho-Bud D-10, Gibson ES-335 Dot, G&L ASAT Classic Tele.
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B Cole
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posted 30 March 2001 05:21 AM
Well after haveing the Nashville 4the session 500 and the Nashville 1000-- I would say IMHO-- ONLY-- the 400 fit way on the bottom. The Nashveill and the session 500.. the 500 with the Lemay mod has the edge for tone, brute power, The Nashville sureky has the edge for weight but how long do you carry it. Over all and this just my feelings. The Nashville never goes out on the Job always the 500. If the 500 breaks down then out comes the 1000. Keep in mind this does not reflect ant one else's thought only my own.Would I buy another 400 or 1000 no I would not. BUT that don't mean the 1000 or the 400 are not great amps it only means IMHO the 500 is the best of the 3 [This message was edited by B Cole on 30 March 2001 at 05:24 AM.] |
John Sims
Member From: Cooper City, FL (Ft. Lauderdale)
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posted 30 March 2001 06:37 AM
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Hey Bill,Call me. My "beter half" is working tonight, and you can come by and listen to one.
(954) 252-9111 or (954) 240-3740 (Cell)
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Regards, John Steelin' is a way of life! My PSG website-Carter SD-12-U, 8p/5k, Nashville 1000 |
B Cole
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posted 30 March 2001 07:30 AM
I don't know about the amp but I sure do like the hat. Funny your 1000 looks just like mine and I will bet is sounds real close to mine. Now I would surly like to put your side by side wiht the 500 but I'm afraid by the time I get there your beter half will be home and sleeping and would not like being woke up from a sound sleep. You have a great day and if I ever get to Fla I will look you up where your playing and we may try them out |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 30 March 2001 07:49 AM
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Hello Bill,
Having the opportunity to work here at Peavey for many years has allowed me to use many different steel amps on gigs. However, I have owned and used a Nashville 400 since 1985, but also try to rotate between the various models that we have manufactured since the mid 70's. The differences between the 400 and 1000 basically lie in the cabinetry and the power amp section. The 400 is rated at 210 watts RMS of analog power and the 1000 is rated at 300 watts of digital power. Digital power is much cleaner in my opinion and is more accurate. The modified eq circuitry of the preamp in the 1000 is basically the same as the 400(after modification) except that the 1000 has patching points for effects processors. Nashville 400's manufactured prior to approximately 1995 incorporate a 1502-4 ohm BW, until the 1501-4 ohm shallow basket BW was designed in late '95 or early '96. The 1000 is equipped with the 1501-4 shallow basket. The tone difference is distinctive as the 1000 has a mellower(in my opinion) type of response. Since the cabinet is made totally of wood and is a bit wider in size, it gives it a different voicing. I've been asked why we didn't place a brace across the back like all of our older designs. The reason for this is because it allows the sides to vibrate freely for better tone. The only drawback is that you can't lean it back into a chair. A good amp stand can take care of that problem though. Mike Brown
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B Cole
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posted 30 March 2001 08:41 AM
hey mikeyou know you proved me right again the 1000 is a far better sounding amp then the 400. but the 500 is the best of the 2 heaveyer yes and most people don't want to carry the weight but for all around sound and only for me maybe. Differnt strokes for diffrent folks. The 500 is the benchmark of the steel guitar amps. in Peavey anyway. Now next question what can I do to my reverb to stop it for making a big loud banging noise every time someone walks near itI have gone to using a electronic reverb. And I hate effects of any kind help me Mike please tell me what to do. and thats in the 500 so it hurts all the more. Mike I use a Peavey amp stand is there any other kind
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Dave Burton
Member From: Richland,Wa. USA
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posted 30 March 2001 12:40 PM
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Hi all, good responses so far but IMHO the 1000 sounds so much better than the 500!It took playing thru it a while but now I wouln't go back. I played thru a 500 for about 15 years and thought it sounded as good as it got, but then....I added a new Sierra U12, a Hilton pedal, and alot of practice time so was it really the amp? Dave |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 30 March 2001 02:26 PM
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Bill, it could be one of two things...........you're playing on rickety 'ol stages or the reverb springs are just worn out. Has the reverb pan ever been changed out? If not, it might be time for it as it is mechanical.Dave, I believe that your answer is all of the above. Thanks for using Peavey products! |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 30 March 2001 02:27 PM
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Bill, it could be one of two things...........you're playing on rickety 'ol stages or the reverb springs are just worn out. Has the reverb pan ever been changed out? If not, it might be time for it as it is mechanical.Dave, I believe that your answer is all of the above. Thanks for using Peavey products! |
B Cole
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posted 30 March 2001 08:37 PM
Mike the last time I sent it to Peavey they sent me back a new pan and this one is worse then the old one. Now I think we have a misunderstanding here I said for me and me alone. The 500 is far better and thats what I mean for you it may be diffrent and you may not have put into your 500 what I have mine. some players think they can use an am for 15--20 years and as long as the light comes on in the front every thing is fine well mine has seen it's share of shop time and it is in as good a condition as the day it was built yes it has the lemay mod so a + there for the way I play and our band plays 500 rules now keep in mind I never once said the 1000 was a bad amp because it is a great ampbut as long as the old 500 is cooking then it will go where I go. Mike can those springs be thightened up in thereI think they are stretched and hitting the bottom [This message was edited by B Cole on 30 March 2001 at 08:38 PM.] |
Bill Fulbright
Member From: Atlanta, GA
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posted 30 March 2001 09:18 PM
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Once again, thanks to you all for great responses.There is nothing like listening to other people's experiences. John, I will get with you in about 2 weeks. I have to go out of town, but I am taking my steel to practice!! Thanks !!! Bill ------------------
Bill Fulbright
ICQ# 2251620
1998 Sierra U12 7x5; '74 Schecter Strat; Gibson ES-165; Peavey Classic 50-410.
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Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 31 March 2001 05:28 AM
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I use a Walker amp system with JBL's but also have a Session 500 that I haven't used in at least two years because of the weight. Since I recently contracted for a four month set-down job I "towed" the 500 over there to leave on the stage for the duration. I had forgotten the awesome power and response of that Session 500, especially with a Hilton pedal. (now if Peavey could only mfg it in a 40-50lb size, or I could take 30 years off my age) www.genejones.com |
Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 31 March 2001 05:36 AM
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I played a Session 500 for 15 years (got the first one that was sold in Kansas City). It was one of the original small cabinet models.It was probably the best steel amp Peavey has built, excluding the new 1000/2000 models that I haven't played through. However, the weight (and age) took it's toll and in 1996 I went to a Nashville 400 with the factory mod. It's close enough to the 500 in sound, using the three cord hookup that I sold the Session 500. (I also have a rack system that I use - depending on where I'm picking at). The Nashville 1000, that I heard, seems to be equivalent to the Nashville 400, in the EQ section but the power amp is higher power and a lot quieter. |
road runner
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posted 31 March 2001 07:44 AM
I HAVE TWO NASHVILLE 1000 AMPS, I FIND THEY SOUND VERY CLEAN ON ALL MY STEELS,I HAD AN EVANS FET. 500. SOUNDED GREAT WHEN IT WASENT INTHE SHOP. THEY ARE VERY TOUCHY.YOU CAN DROP YOUR PEAVY OUT OF AN AIR PLANE AND IT JUST KEEPS ON TICKING, BY THE WAY I HAVE HAD ALL THE PEAVY AMPS, I LIKE THE 1000 THE BEST. |
John Steele
Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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posted 31 March 2001 01:35 PM
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Mike, thank you for your explanation of the differences. That explains alot.
I'm no authority, but I used to play a Nash 400, and I didn't care for it... I found the mid ranges very harsh. I also had some ongoing trouble with the reverb, but I think Peavey's reputation for rugged gear points to it being an isolated incident.
Last year Al Brisco lent me a new Nash 1000 for a gig, and I wouldn't let him take it back  I like it alot! Clean, lighter, and the mid ranges are not brittle.
Your explanation coincides exactly with my findings... maybe I'm not so deaf after all
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Larry Dahl
Member From: Geneva, FL USA
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posted 02 April 2001 04:55 AM
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I have always found the larger Peavey cabinets to sound better that the Nashville, or the LTD by themselves just because of the bigger cabinets. But, if you run a stereo processor, and two of the Nashvilles,I think the sound is great, and it is not that hard to carry them around, either. Seems to be a matter of value at that point. |
Craig A Davidson
Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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posted 02 April 2001 01:10 PM
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Can I add my two-cents-worth. I once owned a 500 and I loved it. I was forced to go to something else when it was stolen out of my truck. The thought of someone trying to run down the street with that big thing is what makes me laugh about it being stolen. I now have a Nashville and I like it. Still miss my 500 though.------------------
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Bill Fulbright
Member From: Atlanta, GA
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posted 03 April 2001 05:05 AM
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Sounds to me like the 500 is pretty darn good, if you can get over the weight factor, other wise the 1000 sounds like it is a consistent winner.If anyone has a 1000 that you'd like to sell, please feel free to email me at hotguitar@hotmail.com. ------------------
Bill Fulbright
ICQ# 2251620
1998 Sierra U12 7x5; '74 Schecter Strat; Gibson ES-165; Peavey Classic 50-410.
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Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 03 April 2001 08:02 AM
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Thanks for all of your comments and support about Peavey steel amplifiers. We appreciate your business.Bill Cole, I was just pickin' at you(no pun intended). |
B Cole
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posted 03 April 2001 08:37 AM
Mike no pun taken and I do dearly love these Peavey amps 500 that is oh I like the 1000 pretty well also. Matbe some day when the 500 is no more the 1000 will be the benchmark. Like the Lawrence pickup and the Fessy guitar ar slowly sneaking up and soon gottcha |
John Sims
Member From: Cooper City, FL (Ft. Lauderdale)
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posted 04 April 2001 01:12 PM
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Mr. Cole,We look forward to having you my friend...Anytime. BTW I like the hat too... Bill...Call anytime! Have a sfe trip. You can even bring your axe over and plug it in, or I can bring the amp to your place. Let me know buddy. ------------------
Regards, John Steelin' is a way of life! My PSG website-Carter SD-12-U, 8p/5k, Nashville 1000 |
rayman
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posted 04 April 2001 08:41 PM
Had a 400 and an Evans. Tried a 1000. The 1000 is a great sounding amp. Better than the 400 IMHO. The Evans sounded good but was not rugged enough for playing out. You can drop a Peavey off a truck and it will still work. Very rugged. I now play a Webb and don't think that I will ever change. |
B Cole
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posted 05 April 2001 06:51 AM
Rayman I never tryed a Web but I hear they are great. I have a 1000 it sounds great also a 500 it sounds to me far better. I sold a 400 cause it was real honky in the Mids. John let me know when you are dropping over I will put on the coffee but keep in mind I live around Buffalo NY so it may be a long ride better plan on a few days. But in all seriousness we are planning on coming to Fla. this fall and it would be great to meet you. Then I want to go watch the beaches with Jack Stoner. What a way to go blind |
John Sims
Member From: Cooper City, FL (Ft. Lauderdale)
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posted 06 April 2001 08:36 PM
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Yeah, If the reflection of the sun off of the water don't get you, the bikini's will, or maybe the better half whacking you in the face afterwards. I love girl scouting. It's fun (until you get caught)... |
B Cole
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posted 06 April 2001 09:14 PM
Johnyou are right about the better half but what a way to go then with a smile on your face |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 08 April 2001 09:19 AM
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Bill,
I bought my new 1000 from Bobbe and I can say that it is a very good amp.It is very,again,VERY clear and clean sounding amp.Every mistake you made,you`ll hear it very nice,clear and loud.No cover up`s possible.I was worned about that by forum members before I bought it.It is great amp for playing a top 40 stuff,but I dont think that guys who love more traditional steel would be very happy with 1000.They would probably rather go with Webb or Evans,I guess
However,definately a lot of music for very nice price.Bobbe can tell you more,price he has for a new one is $750 and it`s worth every penny IMHO,and he will take your 400 in trade also.------------------
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John Steele
Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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posted 10 April 2001 09:10 AM
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I also have 2 guitarist friends who are crazy over my Nash 1000.
One is a jazz guy, the other guy is a rock and roller whose main amp is a mint '65 Twin. They've both used it on gigs, and they both rave about it. Even the tube-head !
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