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Topic: Lloyd Green's delay setting
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Larry Behm
Member From: Oregon City, Oregon
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posted 05 September 2001 05:18 PM
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Does anyone know first hand what settings he uses. I heard him on the WKRP broadcast last week end, sounded like 300-350 ms with about 3 delays. BIG!!Larry Behm |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 05 September 2001 05:32 PM
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Larry; I say the time delay is about right on the money and I heard those repeats as well. I have sometimes been accused of using to many and Have held them back for years. But when I heard Lloyd on friday before I went to my gig, I knew what I was going to do !! My feedback went from 17% to 35%. That made Sleep Walk sound soo much better. Now if I could just get the chimes to sound like his do on the chorus !! Yeah, sure !! I know....That's why he is in Nashville and I'm in....... Where the H - - -
am I anyway ??Regards, Paul  |
jerry wallace
Member From: Artesia , NM - 35 mi from Roswell UFO CITY
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posted 05 September 2001 08:56 PM
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Larry and Paul, I didnt get to hear lloyd but he must have been great from all the reports..Sounds like I am running a bit weak on my setting also.. I run 250ms with 1 repeat [ 0 feedback] and about 17 to 20% on the mix..This is with a profex or tubefex.. Any suggestions for settings that sound more like lloyd?  ------------------
Jerry Wallace-2001 Zum: D-10,8+6, "98 Zum: D-10,8+8,Nashville 1000,Session 500 ,Session 400 head only amp,Tubefex,ProfexII, Artesia, New Mexico
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Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 05 September 2001 10:36 PM
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Jerry; I'm using a Jeff Peterson setting on a Tube-Fex. Bring your FDBK % up until you hear the decaying repeat chain. 0% gives you just the repeat and not the chain that follows a normal echo. Bring it up to where you hear the chain but don't overdo it. Then set your mix for the sound you want. If you are using a single amp it will take one mix setting while a stereo setup would be something else. If you're using a two amp configuration, try to get your position at the front point of an equilateral triangle
and the speakers will be the other two points behind you. Sometimes the stage will demand a different spacing between you and the amps but you'll be able to find it.Regards, Paul  |
Mike Weirauch
Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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posted 05 September 2001 10:41 PM
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Lloyd is using a Boss RV-3. He sets it on position 7 with, from left to right, about 8 O'clock, 11 O'clock and one O'clock. There's the "secret" settings!!! |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 05 September 2001 11:01 PM
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Mike, A mutual friend of mine and Bobbe was at the store a few weeks back and all I've heard since is about how good Bobbe was sounding in the shop and on stage with an RV-3. I've got a couple dozen delay types in my TF so I can't use one right now. I think I'll get one for Frank and then maybe he'll chill out !!  Regards, Paul |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 06 September 2001 01:42 PM
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Mike has it folks. I also talked to Lloyd last weekend at the show and he literally showed me exactly how his Boss RV-3 was set:
Setting #7 which is plate 'verb + delay
Mix was pretty low like 7:30/8:00
Feedback was set at 11:00
Delay Time was set at 1:00The mix knob is the key so the repeats aren't too obvious. He also set the Peavey Nashville 1000's on stage at:
Bass +6
Midrange frequency around 800Hz
Midrange cut about -6/-8dB
Treble flat
Presence flat
Pickup Bill Lawrence 710 What a tone!!! |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 06 September 2001 01:59 PM
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Lloyd's unique style is one of the elite few that is readily recognizable. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 06 September 2001 02:02 PM
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So let me get this straight...Y'all think that if you use the same settings, and the same equipment, as Lloyd...y'all will sound just like him?!? (I could be wrong...but I don't think it works that way.) |
Rick Schmidt
Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA
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posted 06 September 2001 03:21 PM
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Thanks Brad....I keep one of those things in my bag in case my Profex dies on the gig (which has happened more than once  )
I think I'll go glue the knobs in the right place right now. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 06 September 2001 04:35 PM
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Lloyds delay setting is so long that when folks dance to his playing,he's half way home from the job before they quit dancing.
Seriously, I sold him a Boss RV-3 and told him how to set it and I'll tell all of the rest of you if you'd like. Lloyd will be in the store tomorrow and we'll get him on this thread to conferm that he is still doing what I suggested. He did tell me on the phone today that he won't ever play without the RV-3 again. He claims it gives him the best tone he has ever gotten.I understand where he's coming from.Most players in this town use this unit an feel the same way.
Thanks Mike and Buddy for introducing me to this unit 6 years ago.
Bobbe-
www.steelguitar.net [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 06 September 2001 at 04:46 PM.] |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 06 September 2001 04:45 PM
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By the way,(commercial time) I sell these units at a great discounts, and always have them in stock. Just thought someone might want to know,trying to do the community a service. www.steelguitar.net
Might even cut forum members a special deal! Lloyd just called, I told him what I was doing, he said to tell all of you hello and he will be getting a computer soon and is looking forward to being "on line" . I said, "it's about time LDG!". Hear more from him tomorrow.
Bobbe |
Rick Schmidt
Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA
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posted 06 September 2001 05:49 PM
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Yes Bobbe...since I bought my RV-3 pedal from you also ( and because of your great in-store demo ), I'd very much like to know how you set it!!!Do you use different settings for fast songs, slow songs, just delay, just reverb, both? enquiring minds want to...yada yada yada |
B Cole
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posted 06 September 2001 07:29 PM
Donny I think you hit the nail right square on the head. and Bobb-e your ok to. Now Bobb-e here is a question for you? I want to order some of those no spin thumb picks you have. How do I tell what size? Maybe I have to send you one of mine so you can compare tell me before my head starts spinning[This message was edited by B Cole on 06 September 2001 at 07:31 PM.] |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 06 September 2001 09:00 PM
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Between Ann and Bill, I'm just like that "Wheel of Fortune", Just spining, spining, spining, and I'll go on winning, winning, winning,. The question, What artist put that song out?What decade?
Delay settings?Just crack #1. #2 is at 10  o #3 is at 2:OO ,#4 is at #7-----Just about like someone posted already, almost.
Bobbe,Spinner |
Lem Smith
Member From: Fulton, MS. U.S.A.
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posted 06 September 2001 10:16 PM
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Bobbe said...
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Lloyd just called, I told him what I was doing, he said to tell all of you hello and he will be getting a computer soon and is looking forward to being "on line" .
That's some of the best news I've seen on the forum in a long time. Although I have tremendous respect and admiration for ALL the greats, Lloyd has always been my personal "hero" when it comes to pedal steel. So far, my biggest regret regarding steel, is that although I've heard him play live, I've never actually got to visit with him and just talk a while. Thanks for that info, Bobbe. L. Smith |
Ron Whitworth
Member From: Yuma,Ariz. USA
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posted 07 September 2001 11:13 AM
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Hi all;
I sure agree with Lem above about the best news quote:
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Lloyd just called, I told him what I was doing, he said to tell all of you hello and he will be getting a computer soon and is looking forward to being "on line" .
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This is GREAT news!!.
Bobbe-please keep us in the loop here on this very important info..Thanks Ron
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 07 September 2001 11:22 AM
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Lloyd Green is here now, and says the minor variances that have been posted in his delay setting don't make any differance on the two center controls. Just make sure control #4 is on box #7. He finds all these posts very interesting and is glad that everyone still remembers who he is ( is he kidding or what?). He said to repeat what he said earlier, that he never wants to ever play again with out this great little device (Boss RV-3).
Bobbe and Lloyd |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 07 September 2001 08:46 PM
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The Wheel Of Fortune Teresa Brewer ,,,the year??? 1956?? close??? Coral records???Can I reach for a lifeline?? be right back. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 07 September 2001 11:42 PM
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Kay Starr...early '50's. |
Billy Knowles
Member From: Kenansville, N. C. 28349 usa
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posted 08 September 2001 07:05 AM
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Bobbe
It was very nice to see you at the convention. You have got to be the best Emmons P/P man in the country. What is your setting for the delay and if you use the reverb & delay setting, do you make any changes on the reverb on the amp
OH, by the way, please do not change your Webb site.
Thanks
Billy |
Mike Weirauch
Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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posted 08 September 2001 10:12 AM
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quote:
Lloyd just called, I told him what I was doing, he said to tell all of you hello and he will be getting a computer soon and is looking forward to being "on line"
Bobbe, when did he change his mind? |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 08 September 2001 10:36 AM
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Mike, He changed his mind when he started reading posts on my computer about you, he wants to defend you. He loves you too!
Bobbe |
Steven Welborn
Member From: Ojai,CA USA
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posted 08 September 2001 10:44 AM
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Hey guys, pardon my ignorance. Is the RV 3 unit a stomp box or rack mount? I've been using a Boss DD5 stomp box for several years. It's tap tempo delay feature is a real plus. RV3 have that feature? I've been pretty happy with the DD5 but you never miss something better till you've tried it. RV3 have superior tone?? you tellin me i have to buy another toy now???(what kinda bucks we talkin about?) |
Larry Miller
Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA
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posted 08 September 2001 11:31 AM
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Steve, the RV-3 is a DELAY/REVERB stomp box unit. You can use both delay and reverb simultaneously. It's all I use. The price is around $180.oo-$200.oo Larry------------------
GO TITANS GO!!!
[This message was edited by Larry Miller on 08 September 2001 at 11:32 AM.] |
C Allen
Member From: BEREA, KENTUCKY, USA
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posted 08 September 2001 01:15 PM
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Last night I tried out Lloyd's settings, and WOW what a difference!! I was using 250, with 1 repeat, plus some 'verb to wet it down. After I made the change, the sound man got excited. I like it. |
B Cole
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posted 08 September 2001 01:39 PM
Bobb-e I aint a happy camper as a matter of fact I do not camp but I went out and bought a RV-3 did all the settings like you said I played some Lloyd Green stuff and I did not not sound like Lloyd I still sounded just like me. Bobb-e would fly up to Buffalo and help me sound like Lloyd Bring your co-pilot with you and you can sound like Lloyd and I will leard to fly with no plane |
Rick Schmidt
Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA
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posted 08 September 2001 01:41 PM
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Stevan...the RV-3 is a great little stomp box! Unfortunately, it doesn't have the tap tempo, but you do get a decent sounding simultaneous reverb & delay. I got mine basically to take on overseas gigs so I could use a battery instead of frying my rack stuff with different current. The problem with all time effect stomp boxes is that they EAT batteries! So you need to use an AC adaptor for regular use.[This message was edited by Rick Schmidt on 08 September 2001 at 01:51 PM.] |
b0b
Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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posted 08 September 2001 03:12 PM
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I'm moving this to Electronics. |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 08 September 2001 03:41 PM
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Donny,,,,ya got me on that one,,,I always get Kay Starr and Teresa Brewer mixud up.I had the "Capitol" recording I beleive on 78rpm,,,,it's around here someplace unless my
wife threw it out with all those old baseball
cards that are worth a few bucks...
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Len Amaral
Member From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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posted 08 September 2001 04:06 PM
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Make sure you use the Boss PSA-120 power adapter or equivalent in power output, especially when your daisy chaining several effects together using the same power supply.Also, The RV-3 is a cool signal splitter when using 2 combo amps. |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 08 September 2001 04:17 PM
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Jody....Kay was "sexy", Teresa was "cute". |
slick
Member From: Calhoun Georgia
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posted 09 September 2001 10:23 AM
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I have a DD-3,how does it compare to the RV-3
other than the reverb?What settings would suggest on the DD-3 to get the delay that
that Lloyd is using,if thats possible.Thanks in advance Wayne |
Fred Jack
Member From: Bay City Texas
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posted 09 September 2001 11:39 AM
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Slick...I too have a DD3 and would like to know a setting, if possible, to get the same effect as the RV3.. How about it Bobbe ????Can you help us on this ?? fred |
Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 09 September 2001 02:02 PM
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I recently played through a friends RV-3, he wanted me to try it. I use a DD-5 and I hooked up the RV-3 in place of the DD-5 (I was running it in the effects loop on my Nashville 400). I lost most of the body and had mostly highs (bright highs). I didn't like it at all. Maybe I could have changed the EQ on my Nashville 400 to compensate but I shouldn't have to. The DD-3 comes fairly close to the DD-5 in sound. |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 09 September 2001 06:57 PM
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I'm thinking the next question would be how Lloyd is using the RV-3. Is he hooked up right out of the guitar/foot volume control or is he in the effects loop ? It might have a bearing on the responce curve. I learned the hard way, a long time ago about getting the guitar and amp cords in the wrong jacks on the foot volume. I EQd that amp all night to no avail. I just knew I had some serious trouble. Next gig I got it right and the problem I was dreading went away. Line level outputs could do something similar to that if the box can't deal with them.Regards Paul |
KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 09 September 2001 08:51 PM
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I like my RV-3.Gives the good "vintage" sound |
Billy Knowles
Member From: Kenansville, N. C. 28349 usa
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posted 10 September 2001 04:32 PM
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Bobbe
Do you turn your reverb off the amp? Does NTSGA have a web site, how much are the dues and how ofter is the newsletter published.
Thanks
Billy |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 13 September 2001 09:12 PM
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At the convention, Lloyd had the RV-3 right after the volume pedal, before the amp's input. It was not in the effects loop of the Nashville 1000. Brad Sarno |
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