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Topic: The old Echoplex Trick - Or Pickin' 800 MPH
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rpetersen
Member From: Tipton, Iowa
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posted 20 April 2002 07:12 PM
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How do you set a digital delay to do this - I have never tried it and just wondered if someone could give me a start on how to set it - I have an extra digital delay that I could set and just leave it for this.
Thanx.......------------------
Ron Petersen &
The Keep'n Tyme Band
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Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 20 April 2002 07:30 PM
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330 mSec, one repeat, if we're talking about the same thing.I'm thinking Grady Martin on "May the Bird of Paridise" and Albert Lee on "Country Boy" |
Olli Haavisto
Member From: Jarvenpaa,Finland
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posted 21 April 2002 12:11 AM
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One repeat at equal volume with the dry signal and the length (tempo dependant ) is a dotted eight note.------------------
Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
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rpetersen
Member From: Tipton, Iowa
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posted 21 April 2002 05:46 AM
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Thanx.....I was trying it with too many repeats! |
Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 21 April 2002 09:13 AM
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Here's an mp3 of the trick with a 6-String http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/bastrahle/delay/albertlee3.mp3 Try single note scales. A good description is at http://members.aol.com/tstrahle/team/delay/delay.html [This message was edited by Joey Ace on 21 April 2002 at 09:20 AM.] |
Pete Burak
Member From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 21 April 2002 09:56 AM
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Here's how I describe this to folks.
330ms (as described above, one delay of equal volume)
I use the thumb and middle finger, and pick as follows...
Put the bar on fret 3.
The count you will follow is:
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &, ect...
The thumb plays the number, the middle finger plays the &'s.
Pick this string pattern in an acending manner:
8 6 7 5 6 4 5 3
Then hit A+B and repeat.
I'd suggest a 1 4 1 5 chord arrangement to get going.
Once you get the feel for it, get a rhythm track for Foggy Mt. Breakdown or Rocky Top (or one of those type), set the delay for the tempo, and let'er rip!
Season to taste!There is a good explaination of this by Buddy Emmons on the Q&A postion of the Buddy...Live in Denver CD. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 21 April 2002 01:44 PM
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Would you be interested in a video tape showing how to do this? Made simple? Let me know, I have several.
sales@steelguitar.net www.steelguitar.net |
Ernie Renn
Member From: Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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posted 22 April 2002 09:52 AM
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For single string runs, a single echo works best. Just make sure you have either an on/off switch or, for the rack users, a bypass footswitch.If you're trying to play something like "Witches Brew", three repeats of diminishing value, (quieter) is better. On the "Nashville Bar Association" LP Buddy used an Echoplex for a portion of "Ghost Riders in the Sky". Mighty cool stuff! BTW: The intro for "Witches Brew" is on the Tab from Buddy page. Listening to the audio and comparing it to the tab, you should be able to figure it out, (with a little putzing around.) ------------------
My best,
Ernie
The Official Buddy Emmons Website
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Larry Bell
Member From: Englewood, Florida
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posted 22 April 2002 12:47 PM
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Something like this maybe???? (careful -- it's a big mp3 file)------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro |
Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 23 April 2002 01:24 PM
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Everybody here's got the right answer, but it's still kinda hard to set the right speed if you've never done it. I went to one of Albert Lee's clinics years ago and he explained it this way: The delay is set for one repeat, a beat and a half apart. He checks the delay time by muting the strings and picking a string (any string) on the downbeats, like 1,2,3,4,... when the echo delay is exactly the right speed, the muted picking seems to double in tempo. 1,2,3,4 sound like you're picking 1&2&3&4 and so on. This effect sounds great but watch out trying to do it live. If your drummer isn't a human metronome (or using one) and the beat gets even slightly off the speed, it can be an echo-trainwreck. |
Ernie Renn
Member From: Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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posted 24 April 2002 03:54 AM
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Try this one on: Buddy on Ghost Riders.------------------
My best,
Ernie
The Official Buddy Emmons Website
www.buddyemmons.com[This message was edited by Ernie Renn on 24 April 2002 at 04:06 AM.] |
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