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David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 01 November 2002 11:41 AM     profile     
Well, in my search for a tiny replacement for my 6-space rack live, or for a direct recording device - I decided to buy the new POD XT. I have tried about everything that has been made, and I've never found anything with clean sounds that had a good signal to noise ratio.

I've spent about 2 hours with the POD XT, and it certainly is an improvement. I'm going to be putting it through it's paces over the next two weeks (before I decide to keep it), but so far - it is impressive. I just love the idea - running it into the PA / recording console / or a power amp in on my Nashville. I'll be letting all of you know what I decide, in case you want to try one.

Ahhhh - More Gear,

David Spires

Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 01 November 2002 12:18 PM     profile     
Nice to hear from you, David. I look forward to your report. The USB Digital I/O seems like an excellent feature. Have you tried it?

I remember the details of your rack, circa April 2002. If the PODxt comes close to that I'll be surprized.

I use a POD 2 for Tele, but never could tweek it to my satisfaction with Steel.

Gary Morse gets a great sound out of his.

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 01 November 2002 12:44 PM     profile     
Hey Joey,

The USB Digital I/O does sound like a good thing, but they have not implemented the drivers yet (due early next year, as with a program for backing up presets to the computer).

The good thing is that everything can be accessed on the unit itself.

Yep, I have grown very used to the sound of my rack, and I'm not sure that anything less / smaller will directly compare. Everything is a trade off, so we'll see...

Have a good one,

Dave

Tommy Detamore
Member

From: Floresville, Texas

posted 02 November 2002 06:11 AM     profile     
Yes, David, please let us know your impressions. I never had much luck with the original Pod, even with the newer chips...BTW, I enjoyed hearing you on the Eddie Stubbs show a few weeks back. Awesome stuff!
Timmy Witt
Member

From: Rocky Face, Georgia, USA

posted 03 November 2002 07:16 AM     profile     
Yes, I am anxious to hear your results. I bought a behringer v-amp and upgraded it to a v-amp 2. I fixed me 2 tip-ring-sleeve to xlr cords and it increased my output gain from -10db to +4db. I am pretty impressed with it so far, but I like the features that I have read about on the PODxt.

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Tim
1990 Lashley Legrande D10 8 & 4. V-amp, Blue Tube II, Nashville 400

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 04 November 2002 05:21 PM     profile     
Well guys,

I used it on 2 gigs on Saturday - run into the Power Amp in on a Session 400 Limited that I have. I have to say that I was very impressed. The noise floor is very low, and after about 5 hours of fooling with it, I got clean sounds that I could live with. The great bonus are the overdriven sounds... I was taking a lot of overdriven solos on these gigs, and they really had a great feel.

I'll be in the studio this week to see what it does for me recording direct, so I'll update you further then. It really does a great job, is quicker to setup, smaller, lighter, and I might just have to keep it...

It's going to take a few more days to know for sure - compared to my normal rack, but let me tell you guys... The POD XT is at least a generation better than any of the other models out there. The noise floor on it beats my TransTube Fex so bad that I couldn't believe it.

I love gear...

Dave

Rich Weiss
Member

From: Woodland Hills, CA, USA

posted 06 November 2002 05:51 PM     profile     
I found my original Pod unusable for the steel until I put in the 2.2 chip. I've got no complaints with it now. I wonder how it compares to the XT.
Mark Ardito
Member

From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 06 November 2002 08:19 PM     profile     
It would be very interesting to hear Gary Morse's view on this new POD. He is Dwight's steel player and a longtime POD user. He was the one who was posting about the original POD sometime ago.

Gary...are you still on this forum? Have you tried out the new POD?

Thanks,
Mark

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Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 07 November 2002 04:59 AM     profile     
Good idea Mark.
I just emailed Gary asking for a comment.

Either way, the PODxt is now on my list of new gear to try.

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 07 November 2002 08:55 AM     profile     
At this point, I would sure recommend that people give it a try. As for me - POD 2.3 chip's noise floor and clean sounds don't even compare to the improvements in the XT.

I know that Jeff Peterson uses the POD series too, but I've never had the success he has talked about with the earlier models... Even though I have an engineering degree, it could just be "operator error", but I certainly am pleased with the XT so far. It's going to the studio tonight...

By the way, Jeff if you are out there, have you tried the XT?

Thanks,

Dave

Gary Morse
Member

From: Nashville,TN

posted 10 November 2002 10:41 PM     profile     
Joey, thanks for emailing me regarding this ongoing discussion. At this time I have not yet tried the XT but as an endorsee I definitely intend to put one through the moves. To be honest with you, now that Dwight Yoakam has taken the rest of the year off I've been playing some dates with Tanya Tucker. Since Tanya uses "in ear monitoring" and all playing is direct into the P.A., I have been using my rack mounted POD PRO and have been quite happy with it. This past week I played some shows in Texas with McBride and The Ride which were not "in ear" gigs. In that scenario I have been very excited about the sound achieved by using the POD 2.2 on amp mode and plugging into the front panel on two Fender '65 Twin Reverb re-issue amps. In my opinion, Sho-Buds have always sounded excellent when played through Fender Twins. When not using the Fenders, I've been playing through two old Peavey LTD 400's which also have a very nice sonic high end similar to the Twin Reverbs. Just the same, I will be trying the XT out shortly and will share my thoughts on it as well. It's great to see so much sharing of thoughts and information on the Forum in regards to the Line 6 gear. Thanks in particular to David for taking the time to experiment and then pass along his findings for others to benefit from...........
Tommy Detamore
Member

From: Floresville, Texas

posted 11 November 2002 06:17 AM     profile     
I hope they improved the spring reverb model....?
Danny Naccarato
Member

From: Ft. Worth, Texas US

posted 11 November 2002 06:24 AM     profile     
Gary,

Curious what settings you are using. I used the Twin head with the Deluxe cab (POD 2.2) when I was with Janie. All her stuff was direct to the P.A. as well.

Danny

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 13 November 2002 06:45 AM     profile     
Hi Gary,

Thanks for sharing your experience. Your reputation preceeds you. I gave the XT a final "spin" at a Western Beat - plug & pray gig last night. I ran into a Fender Twin, and gave the other out from the POD to the board. It was great. The single biggest problem I had with any of these type of units was too much background hiss in the clean settings, but the XT really is great. Gary, if you have found a way around that in your PODs (which you must have), I wish I had learned that from you earlier.

For what it is worth, I recommend the new POD XT. The only endorsement I can give is that I bought one (I guess that's a pretty good endorsement!). Like any other effects unit, it takes a lot of time to get what you want. Don't just plug it in an expect the right sound to fall into your lap, but it is in there.

Happy pickin',

Dave

Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 13 November 2002 05:07 PM     profile     
David,

Is the built-in tuner good enough that you don't need to carry a Korg? Also, how do you like the Leslie effect?

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David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 13 November 2002 08:31 PM     profile     
Hey b0b,

The tuner is good enough. I had used the tuner in my TubeFex for years, but the POD XT lets you change the "calibration" 1Hz at a time. It works well with my tempered tuning chart.

The Leslie cabinet hasn't impressed me yet, although I just tinkered with it for about 20 minutes.

Dave

Buck Grantham
Member

From: Denham Springs, LA. USA

posted 14 November 2002 01:58 PM     profile     
David, Who makes this product. Like to check the specs on it. Is it a preamp or just an effects unit?
David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 14 November 2002 02:32 PM     profile     
Hi Buck,

It is made by Line 6, and is available in Musicians' Friend or any other large chain music store. The key is - this is the Line 6 POD XT, not the POD Pro, or the POD 2.0. At least I did not have as good of luck with these earlier versions.

It is a pre-amp unit with effects, and is meant to model different amplifiers. Of course, it is geared to guitar players - and many of it's sounds are rock oriented. However, it has Fender Twin and Roland Jazz Chorus amp models that I am using for cleaner sounds.

You could use this an expensive headphone amp, or in front of your normal amp, or into a power amp / cabinet, or straight into a board for live or recording.

Like all units programmable, the "devil" is in the details - getting all of the parameters set to your liking. Sorry for the long post, just trying to share what I know about it.

Take care,

Dave

Buck Grantham
Member

From: Denham Springs, LA. USA

posted 14 November 2002 02:37 PM     profile     
Thanks Dave, I'll check it out. Gonna try to get up there for one of the meetings soon . Talk later,, Buck
Rich Weiss
Member

From: Woodland Hills, CA, USA

posted 14 November 2002 03:19 PM     profile     
I have the original kidney bean. I do think that the 2.2 chip is different than the 2.0 chip, especially for steel. Thanks to Gary Morse, I was given a 2.2 chip from Line 6. These were built to get rid of background hiss and the distortion that occurred at high volumes. Which they did, and which makes this original unit still excellent for playing live, and for recording. I always wondered why more steel players didn't use them? Does the XT still have the 2.0 chip?

[This message was edited by Rich Weiss on 14 November 2002 at 05:37 PM.]

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 14 November 2002 06:06 PM     profile     
Hey Rich,

The XT is a completely new "engine", based on their new Vetta series amps, so it's not based on the 2.x stuff at all. Yep, everyone including Jeff Peterson told me that the 2.2, then the 2.3 chip upgrades solved the noise issue (which I tried to no avail). Trust me, I believe these great players that have told me that they have good luck with them. On the other hand, I'm an electrical engineer (by day), and a "gear head" myself, and I just couldn't get the noise floor down to an acceptable level. I may just have a different target in mind than...

The bottom line is, if it works for you - then that is all that matters. I'm just spreading the word that the XT is a new level of performance (at least in noise reduction). I just can't imagine what will be out there in 10 years...

Happy Pickin',

Dave

Lonnie Bennett
Member

From: Rochester, New York

posted 15 November 2002 10:07 AM     profile     
Hi Dave,
Have you ever tried the Korg Pandoras box PX4? I'd like to get your oppinion on it if you have and how did it compare to the POD?
Thanks

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Big Ben

David Spires
Member

From: Nashville, TN USA

posted 15 November 2002 12:11 PM     profile     
Hey Lonnie!!!!

How are you big man? I'll bet you are tearin' it up as usual...

Actually, you caught me on this one - I've never tried the Korg line (or the Behringer V-Amp). As far as amp modelers go, POD 1.0, 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, and the Johnson J-Station before getting this new POD.

I would bet you would have pretty good luck with any of these amp modelers - the way that your playing and sound have a "drive" to them.

When you are ever in the Nashville area, please let me know. I'd sure like to see you.

Sincerely,

Dave

Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 15 November 2002 01:04 PM     profile     
Hey Buck,

The website is http://www.line6.com/

Bob Lawrence
Member

From: Lwr Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada

posted 20 November 2002 05:23 PM     profile     
Thanks!! for the feedback provide so far. I have been reviewing different units for a month or so and had it down to either a Boss GT-6, Behringer V-AMP 2 or the Line-6 POD XT. The only one I could try locally was the Boss GT-6 and it sure is a great unit but my POD XT should be here next week. If you have any additional info/tips to share I would be very much interested.

Bob

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