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Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 14 April 2003 01:51 PM     profile     
Press Release ~ April 14 2003

Goodrich Sound Co LLC
8733 Silver Creek Rd
Whitehall MI 49461
231-893-5702 FAX: 231-893-7004

Here's a description for the NEW Goodrich LDR Volume Pedal:

It has SELECTIVE INPUTS:
Plug into NORMAL mode or BRIGHT mode.
It has 2 outputs for driving 2 amps, or you can use 1 output to go directly to a mixing board with no losses or noise pickup.

This pedal has NO pot, NO battery, NO racks or pinions, and NO moving internal parts. It is a product of modern technology.

It is extemely quiet and free of distortion.

This noiseless, no-loss, distortion-free operation requires more power than a battery can provide. This is why, when we designed this pedal, we chose a plug-in power supply. And we've kept most of the power supply components inside our pedal so that we've been able to keep the cost of the extrenal unit so low that you might want to carry a spare (this is the only part that might be damaged in use). The price of this power supply is very nominal.

Everything can be left plugged in at all times if desired.

The Goodrich LDR Pedal has more headroom than any other. No "clipping" regardless of how hard a string is picked.

And we guarantee there is NO TONAL CHANGE from FULL-ON to FULL-OFF, regardless of which input is used.

We've included R.F. filtering so you won't hear cell phones or intercoms.

This LDR Pedal carries a full 1-year WARRANTY against manufacturing defects on parts and labor. If the unit becomes defective at any time during the warranty period, we will correct the problem and send it through our Quality Assurance Department to ensure that it meets factory specs.

As the leading builder of volume pedals, our rigid quality and handcrafted workmanship guarantee a product you'll be proud to own -- made in the USA.

We urge you to try this pedal and compare it with any other one on the market.

Please see your Dealer for price and availability.

Suggested List Price: $239


 

KENNY KRUPNICK
Member

From: Grove City,Ohio

posted 14 April 2003 08:59 PM     profile     
Is this Goodrich pedal comparable to the Keith Hilton pedal?
Jeff A. Smith
Member

From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A.

posted 14 April 2003 09:08 PM     profile     
Hi Ann-

Are there any plans for a low-boy?

Thanks,

Jeff S.

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 15 April 2003 04:46 AM     profile     
Kenny: I would suggest trying them both and drawing your own conclusion.

Jeff: Goodrich tells me that they do plan to look at building a low-boy version, but that would not be for awhile.

We are currently taking orders for these Goodrich LDR pedals (standard height).

Ann Fabian
Carter Steel Guitars
www.SteelGuitar.com


 

[This message was edited by Ann Fabian on 15 April 2003 at 05:00 AM.]

LARRY COLE
Member

From: COLUMBUS, OHIO, USA

posted 15 April 2003 01:54 PM     profile     
Kenny, just cut an inch or two of of your right leg, it's cheaper than a nwe pedal.

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Playing For JESUS,LC. WILLIAMS U12, SHO-BUD PRO1,CARVIN TL60

Craig A Davidson
Member

From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

posted 15 April 2003 03:15 PM     profile     
Ann, I am kind of dumb you know. Does it have one of those ungodly wall warts? Or is all that inside. Just a cord would be cool. One you could replace anywhere.

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1985 Emmons push-pull,Evans SS200, Nashville400, 65 re-issue Fender Twin, Fender Tele

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 16 April 2003 07:28 AM     profile     
Craig ... Hi

Actually it's one of those 'ungodly' as you say power supplies that is easy to find at Radio Shack, according to the Goodrich folks.

Philip Goodrich says you can go to Radio Shack and get Radio Shack's 12V Power Adapter #273-1773 for around $13-$14. That includes a choice of one (1) Adapter Plug. Choose Adapter Plug "M".

Or, you can buy the power supply from any Goodrich Dealer. We sell spare ones for $15. Goodrich says these power supplies are purposely low-priced so that folks can afford to carry a spare one or even two.

Also, Goodrich says this above and on our linked page above, which is relevant to your question (note that Goodrich says the wall wart/power supply is the only part that might be damaged in use):

quote:
This noiseless, no-loss, distortion-free operation requires more power than a battery can provide, which is why we designed this pedal to use a plug-in power supply.

And, we've kept most of the power supply components inside our pedal so the cost of the external unit is low enough that you may wish to carry a spare (this is the only part that might be damaged in use).

Everything can be left plugged in at all times if desired.


Ann Fabian
Carter Steel Guitars
www.SteelGuitar.com

Marco Schouten
Member

From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

posted 16 April 2003 07:47 AM     profile     
Is this pedal the same as the CD2?
The description is the same.

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Panther amp


Len Amaral
Member

From: Rehoboth,MA 02769

posted 16 April 2003 07:08 PM     profile     
Good question, I have the CD2A pedal and it the best one I have used. Is this new pedal a replacement for that model? Also, are the power suppies interchangable?

Thanks,

Len Amaral

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 17 April 2003 10:26 AM     profile     
Marco and Len ... Here are Phillip Goodrich's replies to your questions:

"The LDR pedal has the same characteristics as the former CD2A.

"The LDR pedal is superior in that it has no interior moving parts.

"This LDR pedal does replace the CD2A for the above reason.

The power supplies are interchangeable."

Ann Fabian
Carter Steel Guitars www.SteelGuitar.com


  

[This message was edited by Ann Fabian on 17 April 2003 at 10:28 AM.]

Marco Schouten
Member

From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

posted 18 April 2003 01:53 AM     profile     
Thanx Ann

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Panther amp


Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 24 April 2003 08:09 AM     profile     
You are most welcome


John Sluszny
Member

From: Brussels, Belgium

posted 24 April 2003 11:59 AM     profile     
Hi.
Does it look like a recent "120"?
Thanx.
JS

[This message was edited by John Sluszny on 24 April 2003 at 12:03 PM.]

Timmy Witt
Member

From: Rocky Face, Georgia, USA

posted 25 April 2003 06:24 AM     profile     
Is this pedal available yet? Does anyone know how it compares with the Hilton?
Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 25 April 2003 08:25 AM     profile     
John: Yes, the Goodrich LDR does look like the other recent Goodrich pedals, such as the 120, in outside appearance/design.

Timmy: The Goodrich LDR can be ordered from Goodrich dealers at this time. (We expect our first shipment next week).

We encourage anyone who wishes to compare these to actually compare them with your rig for yourself.

Here are a few of the comments about the Goodrich LDR from Junior Knight after field testing it for us (we plan to have other comments later):

  • "Dramatically improved my clarity and volume"
  • "Made the playing experience very enjoyable, allowing greater control over my overall stage volume and tone"
  • "Volume was easier to control ~ able to hear notes better at high volume"

You may purchase the Goodrich LDR from us if you wish online or if you prefer you may print out this order form or you may call our retail sales line 800-969-7332 (or 972-475-2324 for international sales).

Ann Fabian
Carter Steel Guitars
www.SteelGuitar.com
www.SteelGuitarINFO.com
www.CarterStarter.com
www.OnLineSteelers.com

 

[This message was edited by Ann Fabian on 25 April 2003 at 08:41 AM.]

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 29 April 2003 05:19 AM     profile     
Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 01 May 2003 09:08 AM     profile     
Rick Tyson
Member

From: Ohio

posted 01 May 2003 09:05 PM     profile     
Ann,,, is your E mail working,, been trying to get an order through to you for some George-Ls
Rick
Len Amaral
Member

From: Rehoboth,MA 02769

posted 02 May 2003 06:35 AM     profile     
Hi Rick:

I had the same problem ordering from Carter. Ann Fabian called me and said they get so much "spam" email that it is difficult to weed out the legitimate people contacting them.

Ann suggested that you type in "Carter" in the subject on the email message or use the Carter "order form" on their website.

Spam is a problem and I often delete email mesages that appear to be junk mail. Sometimes legitimate messages get caught up in this when I delete them.

Rick Tyson
Member

From: Ohio

posted 02 May 2003 09:05 AM     profile     
Hi Len
Ann did call me & explained about the spam. I surely undsrstand about that. I get about 20 to 30 spams a day & do the same thing. I will do what you said with typing Carter in the subject line.
Thanks Len & Thanks Ann for calling me & explaining about the spam problems.
Rick
Chuck Martin
Member

From: Mc Lean, Virginia

posted 02 May 2003 09:05 PM     profile     
Anyone had a chance to do a real comparison with the Hilton? All of this is good information but someone must have an opinion on how they stack up against each other?
Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 08 May 2003 09:39 AM     profile     
Chuck: maybe by now you've heard from some folks who prefer to talk about these comparisons one-on-one. We do still recommend comparing them for yourself.

For all you International Steelers: here are the mechanical and electrical specifications for the external power supply so that you may find a suitable alternate external power supply or converter which will work with your country's electrical current.

CrowBear Schmitt
Member

From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 08 May 2003 01:48 PM     profile     
Merci Ann

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Steel what?

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 15 May 2003 08:51 AM     profile     
You are most welcome.


Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 18 May 2003 07:03 AM     profile     
Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 18 May 2003 10:40 AM     profile     
What is the input impedance?
Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 19 May 2003 09:13 AM     profile     
b0b: Here's what we've just received from Goodrich in answer to your question:

  • Input Impedances (Zin)
    • Normal Input: 20K Ohms to 290K Ohms at 160 Hz variable.
    • Full Frequency Input: Zin 410K Ohms at all frequences.

  • Output Impedance (Zout)
    • Zout 100 Ohms for either amplier output.

Link to all the specs we now have listed for this pedal is here

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 22 May 2003 12:12 PM     profile     
Hal Higgins
Member

From: Denham Springs, LA

posted 24 May 2003 06:14 PM     profile     
Ann.....wold you e-mail me a price on the Stewart World Rack amps? Address is: hsteeler@bellsouth.net Thanks...HAL

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Be Blessed........HAL
'85 Emmons LeGrande D-10, Rack w/Evans, Alesis Quadraver2, (2)1501-4 BW's IN PRO Cabs.

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 26 May 2003 06:54 AM     profile     
Hal: yes, we will do that.

Ann Fabian
Carter Steel Guitars
www.SteelGuitar.com

Ken Fox
Member

From: Ray City, GA USA

posted 30 May 2003 06:24 AM     profile     
Just a note on the use of wall warts. Any device that is driven by an AC power cord has to be UL Listed (at least to be sold in most States). This is an expensive process that drives up the price of the product. Fifteen years ago I was involved in a project that required a Raulan-org Nurse Call System. The one itemthey had not listed was a Psyc station, as few would ever be sold! Well, it was a VA project and they caught the lack of a listing. It cost Rauland just over $10,000 to have the piece tested and listed.
The way around listing a product is to make its power supply external. The supply is then a UL listed power supply that is typically current limited and safe. Look at rack products with a wall wart and you likely will not finda U.L. listing on them. Just a smart business practice to keep the final customer price competitive.
Kevin Hatton
Member

From: Amherst, N.Y.

posted 30 May 2003 09:13 AM     profile     
This is all just noise until someone compares the Hilton (the new standard) and the Goodrich side by side and posts it on the forum.

[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 30 May 2003 at 09:15 AM.]

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 04 June 2003 03:14 PM     profile     
Goodrich says thank you for all your LDR orders (through your respective Goodrich dealers).

We at Carter Steel Guitars also thank all of you who have ordered their Goodrich LDR's from us in the last few weeks, especially in the last week!

The Goodrich LDR also was very well received at the Tulsa show over Memorial Day Weekend, as well, when it was demo'ed all weekend in our demo room.

We've stocked up and still have more Goodrich LDR's ready to ship . . . as I'm sure is true of many of the Goodrich dealers.

Ann Fabian
Member

From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

posted 10 June 2003 10:18 AM     profile     
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From: Mesquite, Texas, USA

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