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Topic: Organ sound FX stomp box recommendations?
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Slim Lattimer
Member From: Anaheim, CA USA
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posted 21 September 2003 12:17 PM
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It has been suggested to me, to get a digital, stereo chorus stomp box for achieving an organ like sound (not necessarily a Hammond B3 Leslie sound). Does anyone have a recommendation as to brand and model for this? What about analog vs. digital. I am playing an Emmons PP through a Vibrosonic amp. Thanks in advance.
Slim (Tom) Lattimer------------------
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Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 21 September 2003 12:26 PM
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The best organ sound stomp box, bar none, is the Hughes&Kettner Rotosphere. If you can afford it, you'll never be sorry. Do a Forum search for "Rotosphere" and you'll find many positive comments. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 21 September 2003 02:02 PM
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I use a Rotosphere for the Leslie effect, and then blend the result with a pitch-shifting patch called "power chords" in my Lexicon MPX-100. That sort of simulates the drawbars on a Hammond.------------------
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Michael Holland
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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posted 21 September 2003 03:49 PM
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I'm very happy with my
Option 5 Destination Rotation. Here are the Harmony Central Reviews including some head to head on the Rotosphere. |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 21 September 2003 04:14 PM
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Hey Michael--I've heard the H&K and I think it's the beez-kneez. I know how highly regarded the Option 5 is. All I've heard is their website sound clips and I've not been knocked out. Of course that is not a valid head to head comparison. Have you heard or messed with the H&K live and do you hold with your Opt5 choice?---(my question may be moot since I've got a bid in on an H&K right now). |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 21 September 2003 05:39 PM
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MXR "Phase 100" |
Bill Crook
Member From: Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance
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posted 22 September 2003 05:42 AM
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Try a "Profex II" useing preset 41......
A killer sound for the Leslie sound. Preset 47 also works good for a nice organ effect. I use this one often with gospel songs. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 22 September 2003 01:38 PM
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I use the H & K Rotosphere. I think it is great! I had a two button Peavey remote switch laying around that I use with it. I place that by my left foot. I can turn it off and on with one button and change the speed with the other. It works great on gospel music. I play one time through with just the pedal steel straight and then the next verse with the H & K. I wouldn't be without it!
Erv |
Michael Holland
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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posted 22 September 2003 06:25 PM
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Hi Jon,I haven't A/B'ed the two with the same rig. The designer/builder of the Option 5 had a booth at a local guitar show last year and I was so impressed with the unit I walked out with one in my shopping bag. It's hard to believe the depth and complexity of the sound even through a single cabinet and you can split the outputs to separate amps for low/high (fixed woofer and rotating speaker). There's a 'gain' switch and control for adding that 'overdriven Leslie' sound, and the best part is hearing the 'ramp up' of speed from the slow to fast setting and back again. |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 22 September 2003 08:41 PM
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The Rotosphere has all those features as well. I also was not impressed by the sound clip on Option 5's web site and would like to hear a side-by-side comparison. However I'm really happy with the B3 patches in my MIDI rig.  |
Nicholas Dedring
Member From: Brooklyn, New York, USA
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posted 22 September 2003 09:13 PM
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How do Rotosphere users position the box to use the brake switch and other footswitch comfortably?I haven't figured out a happy spot for floor-bound, foot triggered effect stuff. Any input would be of interest... sorry to threaten topic drift. |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 22 September 2003 09:38 PM
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You could use a remote switch like Erv mentioned, but when I had mine, I just sat it in a chair beside me. |
Jan Dunn
Member From: Union, NJ USA
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posted 23 September 2003 09:11 AM
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or you could try http://www.songworks.com/index1.htm The Rotary Wave. I never heard one but it seems cool. I have one of Tris' 50 watt tube jobs and its way cool.[This message was edited by Jan Dunn on 23 September 2003 at 09:13 AM.] |
Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 23 September 2003 11:31 AM
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Hands Down- No contest!!! Hughes and Kettner Rotosphere!!! I have owned many Leslies and have played Hammond a bunch. I have tried every box known to man. H+K is the one. I got mine in the Forum used. You can also buy a remote on/off and slow/fast footswitch that stays out of the way- I got a new Fender Rev?Trem footswitch from Ebay for not too much. It is a perfect companion. I also use it with a PP and Vibrosonic. Buck[This message was edited by Buck Dilly on 27 September 2003 at 03:49 PM.] |
Smiley Roberts
Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
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posted 23 September 2003 01:56 PM
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The first effect I ever used for an organ effect,back in the 70's,was a Electro-Harmonix "Electric Mistress" flanger/filter matrix. It was nice because,you could use the "rate" knob,to give the effect of the "wheel" slowing down,& speeding up. I still have it,but it "took a dump" on me. I'd LOVE to find out where I could get it repaired.------------------
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 24 September 2003 09:59 AM
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I have just 5 pedals, and the Rotosphere fits perfectly between the 5th pedal and my volume pedal. I use my left foot for the on off switch and my right foot for the slow fast switch.
Also, I place the channel footswitch for my Boogie right below the Rotosphere on/off switch. With one footstomp I can hit them both to switch from the "organ" tone to the "rock guitar" tone.------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
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Tony Orth
Member From: Evansville, Indiana, USA
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posted 24 September 2003 11:19 AM
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H&K Rotosphere!I would get comments frequently on the nice organ sound. The chorus is pretty good, as well. Tony |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 24 September 2003 02:18 PM
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I use a rack setup with my steel and use a two channel effects loop. This goes through the Rotosphere and generates a swooping, stereo sound. Real cool!
Erv |
Sam Minnitti
Member From: New Rochelle, NY
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posted 24 September 2003 05:26 PM
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I have pondered getting a Rotosphere as well, but am hesitant as I never got to try one or hear it with a steel.Does anyone have any sound clip examples they could post of what the effect sounds like, particularly on the C6 neck? Thanks Sam ------------------
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Len Amaral
Member From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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posted 25 September 2003 06:12 AM
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I had the H&K Rotosphere and it is a great organ effect. I also had the Digitech rotating rack effect and it was OK but the Rotoshere was more responsive and sounded much better than the Digitech. |
Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 26 September 2003 09:33 AM
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Stop looking- The H+K is it!! |
Slim Lattimer
Member From: Anaheim, CA USA
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posted 26 September 2003 01:04 PM
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Thanks to all of you for contributing your info, ideas and opinions. I purchased a H & K Rotosphere on Tues. and I have to tell you that I love it! It is everything that has been described on this thread, as well as the ones in the past.
Gracias Amebaes,
Tom (Slim) Lattimer------------------
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Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 26 September 2003 01:20 PM
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I'm on the verge of spending a few extra $$ and buying a new H&K Mark II because a couple of upgrade features sound worthwhile---the breaker switch is lockable and the fast and slow speeds can be fine-tune adjusted. To H&K users with the original model, do these features sound like thoughtful improvements to you? |
Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 27 September 2003 03:58 PM
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I don't believe I would benefit from the adjustable speeds, the speeds are perfect. But I would not mind a locking breaker. I hope the new ones don't cut any corners. That happens so often when units are upgraded and remanufactured. |
Dan Tyack
Member From: Seattle, WA USA
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posted 29 September 2003 01:20 AM
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I have an H&K, and I agree that is is a pretty realistic imitation of a standard Leslie sound. I prefer the Motion Sound 'real' leslie speaker, mainly because you can do a very, very slow rotation which sounds like the best chorus you have never heard. So I would advise anybody who is considering this to check out the new version of the H&K to see if you like it better. ------------------
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Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 29 September 2003 06:43 PM
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I've got the Korg G4 rotary speaker simulator. I first heard this pedal unit when I saw Warren Haynes with Gov't Mule. It's very guitar friendly and sounds pretty realistic. You can control speed, acceleration, balance of bottom rotor to top horn, mic distance, overdrive, stereo width, and even a rotor stop control. It's one of the best I've heard but I do hear great things about the H&K Rotosphere. ------------------
Brad Sarno
Blue Jade Audio Mastering
St. Louis
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Dean Neeley
Member From: SC USA
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posted 30 September 2003 06:01 AM
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I've got a SGE rack Mt unit made by ART Co.
It has 3 setting for Organ sounds. Works
great. Dean |
Terry Farmer
Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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posted 30 September 2003 06:49 PM
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Has anyone tried the Roland Hammond B-3 sound module? I don't know the model #. It has drawbars,leslie effects and costs about $850. I think it has to have a midi controller to work. I would like to hear from anyone that has tried it, even with a keyboard. |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 01 October 2003 02:21 PM
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Sorry Terry to bypass your question but I don't know nuthin' about it. But.............I just got my H&K MKII and holy guacamole is this thing neat!! Definitely puts out some hiss but it has true bypass so you don't need to worry about using it in a loop. Using it with the breaker engaged just as a color option--it has a filtered sort of sound--is useful so I'm glad I've got this MKII (although I'd think that it wouldn't be a very difficult mod if it's just a matter of subbing a standard switch for the momentary contact switch--but I don't know for a fact that this is the case). I don't know yet if I'm interested in adjusting the speeds but it's good to know that you can, I guess.I also found something pretty cool--it seems to be general knowledge that any effect like this is going to sound hipper in stereo. The first thing I noticed when I ran it mono was the lack of major throb--the one characteristic that I really want in a Leslie sim--even the Pod delivers some throb. But then I ran a second chord from the second stereo out to the other channel of the Deluxe Reverb I was running. MAJOR THROB. Of course this is not stereo. But what I think I've got is two things--separation of the stereo outs via separate preamp paths, and here's the good stuff---since the two channels on a Fender tube amp are out of phase, I think I'm getting a phasing effect that is varying within the complex interactions of the stereo signal, with the phase cancellations on the signal peaks accentuating the modulations. I'd need to check this with another rig that is not out of phase to confirm it. Actually I hope I'm wrong because I had intended to add reverb to ch. 1 of the DR, thus putting the two side back in phase but this effect is so cool that I'd hesitate to mess with it. Anyway, this is way more than anyone wanted to know. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 01 October 2003 03:13 PM
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Jon,I found that it was hissy when dealing with a guitar level signal, but it works much better in the effects loop. ------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax |
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