IMHO this is the best steelguitar product to come along in maybe over 30 years.

Dag

[This message was edited by Dag Wolf on 12 March 2005 at 06:36 AM.]

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Things are too cluttered around me as it is. Can you rack mount the Black Box?

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Since I don't use 19" rack EFX now - I took an old sewing machine box and created a 'tall pedal board'. Basically the lid sits up high enough I can touch pedals without bending over. It's wide enough for my Black Box, Peterson VSII tuner, a powerstrip, and a few Boss pedals. But small enough that I can sit it right next to me, plug in the Hilton into the power strip. Everything else is permanently plugged in. All the signal cables are in place to make connections so setup is quick. I'll try and put a pic up sometime soon - it works for me. Plus the case stores my Hilton and some other stuff I usually haul that won't fit in the pacrat seat.

chris

[This message was edited by seldomfed on 14 March 2005 at 10:12 AM.]

Pat and Ray, you bring up a good question regarding what benefit the Box may provide if you already have tubes in the preamp and/or amp, and also if you have an active volume pedal for buffering. What I've found with the Black Box is that even with my Hilton going into my Twin (that's one of my main setups) that having the Black Box up front still brings out something special that wasn't there before.

I always wanted to "inject" the tube sound into a solid state rig, but my surprise discovery was that something very interesting happens when you put a tube first, before anything else. This way the pickup directly "sees" the tube. There is a unique interaction there that seems to bring out a smoothness, extreme detail, a fatness, a warmth, and a sweet treble from the pickup that I've never heard from any solid state buffer stage. So it's not just the tube factor, it's the relationship between the pickup's coil and the tube that creates an entirely new sonic result that most of us had never heard before. Believe me it was an exciting discovery.

So, short answer, the Black Box is still quite beneficial if you already have a tube rig and/or an active volume pedal. Consider the Black Box a component of the pickup that helps generate the signal that will later feed the preamp/amp. And, buffering the pickup with a tube will always sound different than buffering with a transistor. I use the Box with my tube amps all the time and definitly prefer it to not having it there. But I'll admit I'm a bit biased.

Thanks everyone for your interest and enthusiasm. This is very exciting for us to be able to help make such a beautiful instrument sound even more purty.

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I use the Box with my tube amps all the time.....but I'll admit I'm a bit biased.

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...no pun intended?

...Thanks for the detailed response, Brad. Sounds interesting.....I'm gonna have to hear one, and then no doubt get my money ready!...

ATTN: Black Boxes nearly out of stock. I've only got a couple left and won't have new stock for about 3 weeks or so. Please contact for availability.

Thanks,
Brad

[This message was edited by Brad Sarno on 22 March 2005 at 10:59 AM.]

Brad

There was a post on the Forum a few months back where you described a slight 'mod' that was available for the earlier models. I posted on that thread asking if my BB was one of the 'early' ones, but didn't see any reply.

Do you still have a record of the serial # of the BB you supplied to me, and, if you do, could it use the 'mod'?

For the record, I'm still delighted with the difference - having another item to plug in is a nuisance, but well worth it!