Steel Guitar Strings
Strings & instruction for lap steel, Hawaiian & pedal steel guitars
http://SteelGuitarShopper.com
Ray Price Shuffles
Classic country shuffle styles for Band-in-a-Box, by BIAB guru Jim Baron.
http://steelguitarmusic.com

This Forum is CLOSED.
Go to bb.steelguitarforum.com to read and post new messages.


  The Steel Guitar Forum
  Electronics
  Fresh Canadian Pedal Pot's now in stock

Post New Topic  
your profile | join | preferences | help | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Fresh Canadian Pedal Pot's now in stock
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 07 June 2005 10:36 AM     profile     
Just want to let everyone know that i have received my first shipment of fresh made canadian 500K Pedal pot's.I have tryed one and thay are Sweet.Yes,there is a distinct difference in sound quality plus,thay have a very smooth feel.Thay come in there very own airtight container with a bag of desiccant to insure freshness and,The life span is somewhere around 1 millon turn's.Thank's and,have a Blessed Day
Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 07 June 2005 05:07 PM     profile     
Richard requested this be moved to ELECTRONICS, from E&A.


If you want to post price and ordering info, please do it at "For Sale - Amps and Acceessories".

[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 07 June 2005 at 05:10 PM.]

Bill Hatcher
Member

From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 07 June 2005 08:42 PM     profile     
And the price is.......
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 08 June 2005 05:55 AM     profile     
Yes Bill,Thay cost $28.00ea.That includes shipping,insurence and,signature confirmation to your door.Thanks for asking.Have a Blessed day.
Curt Langston
Member

From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA***

posted 12 June 2005 11:23 AM     profile     
Hey Richard, what do you mean by fresh? And why our yours better. Are they constructed better, or better material. Why does the air hurt them? Thanks
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 12 June 2005 12:46 PM     profile     
The Manufacturer that built the pot's i had made sale over 1 Million pot's a year.and thay told me that Carbon absorb's moisture very quick.So that's why we need to buy the freshed made pot we can get our hands on.If you would like to know how to tell how old your pot is just let me know.Also,I will get with the Mfg and ask about diffrent grades of carbon.There is another materil that i want to use but,i have to work up to it.(That is cost in wise)Be Blessed.
John Bechtel
Member

From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 12 June 2005 07:10 PM     profile     
That's a lot of money at any price¡

------------------
“Big John” Bechtel
’04 SD–10 Black Derby w/3 & 5 & Pad
’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
web site

Jack Stoner
Sysop

From: Inverness, Florida

posted 13 June 2005 03:33 AM     profile     
John, that's why I bought a Hilton. The initial price of a Hilton is more than a Goodrich 120 but no more expensive (overpriced) pots to buy and the hassle of replacing them.
Blake Hawkins
Member

From: Land O'Lakes, Florida

posted 13 June 2005 06:58 AM     profile     
Gee, Folks,
If those pots absorb moisture that bad, we would be in great trouble trying to use them in Florida.

Blake

Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 13 June 2005 08:18 AM     profile     
Big John,I had to buy 75 pot's in order to get set up plus,the packaging.After I Get some money back from the initial start up the price will go down. How many would you like?
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 13 June 2005 08:22 AM     profile     
Yes sir Jack,I stock Hilton pedals and,There hard to beat.There is an old saying(strokes-an-folks)
Dustin Rigsby
Member

From: Columbus, Ohio

posted 13 June 2005 10:51 AM     profile     
I have one of the Ohmite Canadian Pots,and there is a sweeter tonal difference.

------------------
D.S. Rigsby
Wilcox SD10 3&5
http://www.touchinglittlelives.org

Skip Cole
Member

From: North Mississippi

posted 17 June 2005 07:47 AM     profile     
Richard, thanks for the quick shipping, got the pot yesterday and made the change last night. It works great , smooth and much quieter than the previous Clarostat that it replaced. Another satisfied customer.
Skip

------------------
"I Can Only Imagine"

Danny Naccarato
Member

From: Ft. Worth, Texas US

posted 17 June 2005 08:15 AM     profile     
Ditto what Skip said. I bought 2. Put one in the Goodrich and one in the Emmons Pedal.... Will be using them the next 2 weeks on the road incl The Opry....

[This message was edited by Danny Naccarato on 17 June 2005 at 08:16 AM.]

Curt Langston
Member

From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA***

posted 17 June 2005 09:38 AM     profile     
Yep! Call me crazy, but there is a difference. I think they sound much warmer than the Clarostat. The Clarostat sounds a bit thin, and has a much shorter life. (before they start to scratch) A lot to be said for Hilton. BUT, theres a lot to be said about these pots as well. I believe that Precision makes Ohmite.

[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 17 June 2005 at 09:39 AM.]

[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 17 June 2005 at 09:40 AM.]

[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 17 June 2005 at 09:43 AM.]

Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 18 June 2005 07:33 AM     profile     
Skip,Danny,curt.Thanks for the opportunity to serve.Have a blessed day.
Kevin Mincke
Member

From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA

posted 18 June 2005 07:48 AM     profile     
Richard, are these the same as the PEC brand pots?
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 18 June 2005 08:52 AM     profile     
Kevin,Yes there are.PEC is stamped on the end.Precision makes them.
John Lacey
Member

From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada

posted 18 June 2005 09:08 AM     profile     
Are these pots the linear taper or the log taper ones? Do they come on strong near the end?
Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 20 June 2005 06:59 AM     profile     
John,Sorry it took so long to get back to you.I sent my contact at the MFG an email over the weekend and,he said he thought thay were log taper and, he would have to look up my order to see for sure on monday. He said that on the log taper the first 50% of rotation only changed around 10% Then, change becomes much faster for the balance of rotation.Just as soon as I hear something else i will post it.Be Blessed
John Lacey
Member

From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada

posted 21 June 2005 11:29 AM     profile     
Thanks Richard. I copped a couple from an Electronics store in Calgary but they were the linear taper and were a little anemic in gain, although seemed fine other than that. I'll have to check with them if they're carrying the log taper.
Brad Sarno
Member

From: St. Louis, MO USA

posted 22 June 2005 07:45 AM     profile     
I've tried the Canadian PEC/Ohmite RV4 type pot for volume pedals. The one I got came from Paul Franklin Sr. and it was indeed audio taper, not linear. Very smooth feel and sounded just fine. The taper, as I recall was nice. Not all audio tapers are the same. Some of the later Mexican Clarostats seemed to have a kink, or an abrupt come-on at that 65% of rotation point. All audio tapers are supposed to come on strong there, but some seem smooth and others seem abrupt.

I think there may be some reality to sonic differences in pots. Different resistors have different sounds. Carbon comp resistors can have a different tone from brand to brand. Metal film resistors have even more variance in tone from make to make. It's likely that PEC uses a different resistive track element than Clarostat and so maybe there is truth to these observed sonic differences in pots. It's probably not dramatic, but I wouldn't be surprised if people could hear differences, especially at settings below full volume. Is the PEC carbon or conductive plastic?

Has anyone else noticed this? During the cold, dry winter days when static electricity seems to build up everywhere, pot pedals seem to sometimes get scratchy. I know that a DC charge on the wiper of a pot can make them scratchy sounding. I once rebuilt and cleaned a pot in the winter because of this and a week later the problem came back. Then in the spring time, that same pot was fine and still is. Just a theory.

Brad Sarno

Richard McDonald
Member

From: Broken Arrow,(Tulsa) Oklahoma, USA

posted 23 June 2005 09:00 AM     profile     
Brad,sorry It took so long to get back to you.I hear what your saying.I also think that there is a difference from brand to brand as in,The material used to make the unit plus,the carbon could be different depending on what part of the world it came from also,Is there different grades of carbon? like wood,gas & oil.
I asked the PEC MFG if the carbon thay used was the best stuff around and,he said that the best to use was conductive plastic.A pot that used It would have life span of about 2.5 millon turns.I wonder what a conductive plastic pot would sound like next to a carbon pot? The cost of the conductive plastic was very pricey.However I will have some made soon.I raced circle track for about 12 years in texas and I am here to tell you today you can have the best hipo stuff out there and,if the points in the magneto are not set or,made of good stuff it will shut you down or,cause a mis fire.Just like a grain of sand in a needle and set in a carburator,you'll have a flooding problum.I feel the same way about playing steel you can have the best pickup,cables,strings,picks,pre amp and,the sound still goes through a small point in the pot.
I rebuild a lot of pot pedal's and I can't have that scratchy sound.When I send out a pedal it's got to be fixed and not come back within a few month's with the same problum.I want the best stuff for all of us.Be Blessed
Skip Cole
Member

From: North Mississippi

posted 23 June 2005 09:55 PM     profile     
I can relate to what Brad said about the taper of the Clarostat pot ; at the 65% point in the turn it just seems to double in volume. At least the ones i've had lately did, but not so with the one i got from Richard.

------------------
"I Can Only Imagine"

John Daugherty
Member

From: Rolla, Missouri, USA

posted 24 June 2005 05:58 AM     profile     
Maybe I can give some insight to "taper".
With reference to potentiometers,a linear change in resistance will not give a linear increase in volume. This is because a change in "volume"or more specifically,"sound pressure level" is perceived by the human ear. The human ear does not perceive changes in sound pressure level on a linear scale. The "audio taper" pot was developed in a attempt to make the change in sound pressure level sound linear to the human ear.
I hope I said that right..... Tha'ts a mighty deep explanation for this hillbilly........JD

All times are Pacific (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  
Hop to:

Contact Us | The Pedal Steel Pages

Note: Messages not explicitly copyrighted are in the Public Domain.

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46

Our mailing address is:
The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support the Forum