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Frank Freniere Member From: Palos Park IL |
posted 23 September 2001 09:16 AM
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1973 Cal Smith record, something about "I know I'm a sinner, but the Lord and I will have a talk about it later tonight." |
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Roger Kelly Member From: Mount Carmel, TN. 37645 |
posted 23 September 2001 10:55 AM
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I would guess John Hughey or Weldon Myrick. |
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Jack Stoner Sysop From: Inverness, Florida |
posted 23 September 2001 12:06 PM
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Didn't Buddy Charleton do some of his sessions? |
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Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A. |
posted 23 September 2001 05:22 PM
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quote: (At least, I think that's how it went.) Cal did this in '71 or '72, I believe...and the song was called "The Lord Knows I'm Drinking" I believe the steelman was either Pete Drake, or maybe Buddy Charleton. [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 23 September 2001 at 05:43 PM.] |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 23 September 2001 08:10 PM
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I always thought it was Pete Drake. |
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Al Udeen Member From: maple grove mn usa |
posted 24 September 2001 09:22 AM
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It was John Hughey!!!!!! |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 24 September 2001 12:30 PM
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I worked for Cal back in the early 80's & loved to play those chops on the show.John Hughey, I believe. An interesting sidenote to that particular band we had;Danny Groah(guitar), now plays for Alan Jackson, Randy Hardison(drums) is now a successful songwriter & session musician here in Nashville. Dana Williams(bass & vocals) is a prominent member of Diamond Rio. as for me.....I wish I was still working with Cal, best job I ever had  [This message was edited by Mike Cass on 24 September 2001 at 12:38 PM.] |
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Bob Knight Member From: Bowling Green KY |
posted 24 September 2001 12:33 PM
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Richard gets the cigar.  |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 24 September 2001 12:40 PM
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trust me Bob, it was John Hughey .... |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 24 September 2001 01:13 PM
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Bob....no more phone calls please... this is ridiculous to take this item to this extreme....I learned the chops, played em on the gig & BELIEVE ME!!! ....Pete couldnt have played those licks on his best day ... now I think I know why some of the other pro's stay away from this forum, or just lurk....something I think I'll practice from here on out....unbelievable!!!!! ROFL!![This message was edited by Mike Cass on 24 September 2001 at 01:15 PM.] |
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Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth |
posted 24 September 2001 01:14 PM
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penned by WHispering Bill Anderson... always loved the steel no matter who it was... "yes that's my bottle, and yes that's my glass, and I see you eyballin' this purty young lass... [This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 24 September 2001 at 01:14 PM.] |
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Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
posted 24 September 2001 03:26 PM
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Don't leave Mike, we need you on the forum! Who played for Cal in 1979-1980? , he had a curly perm doo and a mustsache, played an Emmons Larry P.S. No leg humping intended [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 24 September 2001 at 03:27 PM.] [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 24 September 2001 at 03:31 PM.] |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 24 September 2001 03:46 PM
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thanx Larry.... the fellow youre speaking of might have been Chuck Bartlett. He passed away in the late 80's. Chuck was one hellacious player !! Many of his peers spent many nights @ the old Gabe's Lounge listening to him.He was a very close friend of mine & quite alot of help in keeping my head above water when I moved to Nashville.I dont remember him playing an Emmons,tho. He did have a beautiful Sho-Bud Pro 2 or 3 that Paul Franklin sr. built for him. Also, one Smiley Roberts played with Cal somewhere around that time..... not to mention the great Johnny Cox. |
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Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
posted 24 September 2001 04:21 PM
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Thanks for the info Mike! |
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Frank Freniere Member From: Palos Park IL |
posted 24 September 2001 05:06 PM
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Thanks to all, esp. Mike Cass. |
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Mike Weirauch Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe |
posted 24 September 2001 05:16 PM
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I don't want to get in the middle of a pissing contest but I checked on allmusic.com and this is what I found so you will have to continue to guess who it is. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Acqv8b5t49sq0 |
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Gregg Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn.,USA |
posted 24 September 2001 06:04 PM
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Mike W., I checked out your RMG source, and that looks like a re-make of Cal's greatest hits to me, probably a project that Pete produced in his last years. The guys listed in the credits were all members of Pete's regular crew. I suspect that if we're talking about the original hit by Cal of "The Lord Knows I'm Drinkin'", we might want to take Mike Cass's word. After all, he was there, and no doubt knows of what he speaks. Perhaps Walter Haynes will see this thread and give us the definitive answer, since he was Cal's producer at the time. Also, the person who originally said it was Pete Drake who played on the record may have had the song confused with Charley Walker's "Don't Squeeze My Charmine", since the two songs are very similar, and Pete DID play on the latter. |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 24 September 2001 07:55 PM
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Wow, I never would have guessed John Hughey. Thanks for clearing this up, Mike. |
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Mike Weirauch Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe |
posted 24 September 2001 08:47 PM
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The one thing I'm sure of is that it wasn't me who played on that session  ! As for the who really did it, they did a great job that turned out memorable. |
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Walter Haynes Member From: Sevierville, Tn |
posted 24 September 2001 10:27 PM
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I was Cal's producer during the 70's and did produce " The Lord Knows I'm Drinking" MCA Records and if I remember correctly, I had Weldon on steel for that one. I also think Weldon played on "Country Bumpkin" for us!! It's been a long time but I'll try and check the paper work to find out for sure---- Walter Haynes |
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Al Udeen Member From: maple grove mn usa |
posted 24 September 2001 10:53 PM
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It was John Hughey!!!!!! |
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Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
posted 25 September 2001 08:39 AM
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Who cares who it is....just enjoy it.... Too many times this forum gets too wrapped up in the name game..... Appreciate it for what it is. Somewhere archived, is the studio log listing the correct steel player. I am thinking that we will find out before long....... Geeez |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 25 September 2001 09:22 AM
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Al.....was that a double post? Im with you..but its hard to argue with Walt.... My main reason for thinking it was John is that the tone, feel & chops are very similar to some of the Conway & Loretta things from the same period that John was on....not to mention seeing his name (along with Weldon's),on the album jacket I believe.Perhaps Walt produced those things too? [This message was edited by Mike Cass on 25 September 2001 at 09:35 AM.] |
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Al Udeen Member From: maple grove mn usa |
posted 25 September 2001 09:41 AM
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Hi Mike! No It was not a double post, It was a repeat of what I said earlier, I remember when the song came out in 72, & it was John! It amazes me how many different oppinions of who it was? It will be interesting, when all is said & done! I hope all is well with you! We sure go back a long way! Remember the nite a BlaineBrook? > Al |
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Roger Kelly Member From: Mount Carmel, TN. 37645 |
posted 25 September 2001 10:47 AM
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Al, I think you and Mike are correct. After listening to the song a few more times, it sounds more like Hughey than Myrick to me. Cal Smith had another tune called "I Love You a Thousand Ways". Lefty Frizzell recorded it back in the 50's I believe? If I'm not mistaken, Lloyd Green played on that cut...and Play he did! One of the best turn arounds I ever heard Lloyd do. |
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Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
posted 25 September 2001 11:23 AM
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quote:because it is history, it should be recorded accuarately. I for one want to know, accurately, who was on a particular session, that's why I listen to Eddie Stubbs on WSM, that is why I read the session credits on records and CD's, that's why I have visited the archives in the basement of the Country Music Hall of Fame doing research. Is it being "anal?"... I don't think so. Judging from what I see and have seen on this forum, it is important and interesting to know who was on a particular session, and this forum provides a really good source to get that information, either by the artist who performed on the recording, or someone like Kevin Owens, Bobbe Seymour, or Al Udeen. Just my .02 cents worth |
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 26 September 2001 12:38 AM
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Okay,I guess I'll have to 'fess up. It was ME!! ------------------ |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 26 September 2001 03:46 AM
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Well I aint gotta clue who played on that record but I sure do get a huge kick outta watching yall argue about it. Gives the forum a bit of character. Rick |
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Mike Weirauch Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe |
posted 26 September 2001 09:05 AM
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quote: ......and all this time I thought it was Bobbe Seymour!!!!!! |
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Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
posted 26 September 2001 11:14 AM
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Well, I don't think that 'anal' was a word used here. My point was to those getting upset that thier 'speculation' was being challenged instead of the documented fact. I also enjoy knowing who plays on what with who and when...it is interesting history. History is based on fact not speculation. All in good fun..... |
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Mike Cass Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A. |
posted 26 September 2001 10:48 PM
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Al, yep I remember that night... I also remember the special use you had for the microphone you plugged into the other channel of your amp.....but yer secret's safe with me.....for now .Wasnt the "Loft"a piece of work??? Man, them days are wayyyyyy gone  . Lotta fun tho....I sure learned alot back then ......Buddy, Hal,Weldon,Lloyd & John ALL over the radio & TV.....a great time to be part of steel guitar...& avoiding DUI's . [This message was edited by Mike Cass on 26 September 2001 at 10:51 PM.] |
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 03 October 2001 09:47 PM
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Okay,one final posting. I spoke w/ John Hughey,& it is,indeed,him on the recording. END OF DISCUSSION!! ------------------ |
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Al Udeen Member From: maple grove mn usa |
posted 04 October 2001 12:03 AM
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Whew! Saved by the bell again! |
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Bob Knight Member From: Bowling Green KY |
posted 04 October 2001 07:03 AM
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You have to give the cigar back Richard.  [This message was edited by Bob Knight on 04 October 2001 at 07:04 AM.] |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 04 October 2001 04:53 PM
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"Sorry Bob, I already "Clintonized" it |
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Bob Knight Member From: Bowling Green KY |
posted 04 October 2001 06:27 PM
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RICHARD!!!  |
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Jerry Horner Member From: Tahlequah, OK, USA |
posted 04 October 2001 06:50 PM
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The only group of guys I know that can make a mountian out of a mole hill. Jerry |
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