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Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 03 September 2002 08:46 AM     profile     
I was happy to learn of S&J's induction into
the HOF. I have know'n these two fellows before they started shaving.

I want to acknowledge a friend and uncle of Santo & Johnny,,,his name is Mike Dee,,he was
the driving force behind the success of these
two boys.

The first time I met them,,,was way back before their rise to the top of the charts,the group was called,,,Mike Dee and
"The Mello Tones" which consisted of the three of them,,,,Mike is 80 years young and looks and acts the same as he did those many
years ago,. I wanted to post this about Mike as he deserves to share in Santo & Johnnys success story.

Mike played drums on the original "Canadian"
American" recording of "Sleep Walk". Mike was the "beat" behind the boys.

I will copy this and send this to my friend
Mike,,I know he will ne honored to see that
he is remembered. Who said "drummers" weren't important? he was and always will be
that, as well as a good friend. Mike does not have a computer,,but I will copy this and give it to him when I see him.

Copyright (C) by Jody Carver 2005 All Rights Reserved

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 18 June 2005 at 01:08 PM.]

Paul Graupp
Member

From: Macon Ga USA

posted 03 September 2002 09:16 AM     profile     
Well, Jody !! It's like Jim Cohen says: BEATS WALKING !!

Regards, Paul

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 04 September 2002 09:02 PM     profile     
Some people like "Oatmeal" I like "Cream Of
Farina".....

bOb...Im bombing out here,,close this show,,
and I'll try "WHEATIES" next time...maybe throw in a few "prunes" Close it pleeeze.

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 04 September 2002 09:04 PM     profile     
Save the Box tops,,,,,they may be worth something someday.
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 04 September 2002 09:09 PM     profile     
Better yet ,,,try "ALL BRAN" it keeps ya on the "GO". UP TEMPO,,
HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 05 September 2002 06:51 AM     profile     
It's amazing, the longevity of "Sleepwalk" and how great an influence it was and still is.

I loved the style of those days, the DA haircuts, the skinny ties,the sharkskin sport jackets, the pointed shoes.....I was born 10 years too late to really be in that generation. Now I don't have enough hair to get that squiggly thing in front, my feet cry out for comfortable shoes, I can't fit into tight pants, and sharks are biting back, taking limbs with them.

Oh well at this stage of the game, being born 10 years later is not so bad.

Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 05 September 2002 08:48 AM     profile     
I also survived that era.....trowsers with 14" cuffs that you had to almost grease your feet to get 'em on (made all of your shoes look like size 18's), 2" ties with button down collars, short three button jackets (Beatles style).

My haircut was a ducktail on the sides, but a crew-cut on top......called a "boogie".

Then later we washed the "rose hair oil" out and went to the "dry" look, and the hair then fell down to our shoulders and that began another era.

.....but the most positive thing I remember about that time of life was that..."I was young!"

I try to remember that when I find myself getting "judgemental" about some of the today fads of young people! Bless 'em all, they are only young once!

....and for the thread, I must have played "Sleepwalk" a thousand times back then.....
www.genejones.com

[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 05 September 2002 at 08:54 AM.]

Joe Casey
Member

From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

posted 05 September 2002 09:03 AM     profile     
Johnny was a gentleman and cordial at the show.When he spotted my Spring Hill FL. home town on My badge we got into a conversation about Johnny Maestro who lives here in Spring Hill. Johhny still does shows with the Brooklyn Bridge that features J.M. as the lead singer. (remember sixteen candles)?Thas Johnny M. No one deserved to be in the H.O.F. more than S&J.Johnny showed us why too with a performance of a few songs and the only steel guitar song to ever win a "Grammy"."Sleepwalk". a great and deserving gentleman.As was Pee Wee Whitewing.

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CJC

Rich Weiss
Member

From: Woodland Hills, CA, USA

posted 06 September 2002 11:41 PM     profile     
So Johnny was the steel player, correct? What instrument did Santo play? Which one of the two wrote Sleepwalk?


Don Sulesky
Member

From: Hernando, Fl. usa

posted 07 September 2002 04:52 AM     profile     
I met and talked with both Santo and Johnny in Canobie Park in N.H. in 1960 at a touring show they were part of with Duane Eddy and others and at that time Santo was the steel player and Johnny was the guitar player as shown on my Canadian American album in mono. I do say.As to who actually wrote the song i'm not sure but the credits on the sheet music I have from 1959 say Santo, Johnny and Ann Farina.
Don
George Mc Lellan
Member

From: Duluth, MN USA

posted 07 September 2002 06:23 AM     profile     
Did anyone tell Johnny about the Forum? Ya never know, there may be a chance he's not aware of it. He'd sure be great asset to us. (IMHO of coarse)

I'm still whining to my wife about missing the ISGC this year.

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SUAS U' PHIOB
Geo


Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 07 September 2002 07:16 AM     profile     
Santo played steel on all the recordings,,
Johnny played rhythm guitar,,till,,well,they both went their seperate ways.

No big problem with them,,the usual brother
thing,,I'll ask Mike to try to get Johnny to
check this Forum,,,however,,he is a laid back
kind of guy and keeps to himself.

Both of these guys are fine guys,. Gene,,did you ever use that "green pomade" on your hair? It would make the hair "pompadour" as hard as a rock,.

My mother wouldnt let me dress that way,,it was a white button down shirt,,trim plaid pants and "penny loafers"

Beleive me,,I still have the same suit I wore
with Mike Dee,,(for real),and the narrow ties
as well,,,I still like them,,its difficult to spill your lunch on a narrow tie,,Oh,Im getting one of those things again...sorry for
the "rambling" anybody can aske me to stop.

But remember,,Mike Dee was the "force" behind
Santo & Johnny and he's one of my dearest friends. I know Mike will enjoy this thread,,he dont have a computer and dont want
one,,,,he's living in the past,,and that past
was a GREAT time,,I think I'll join him. Look
at the "future" whats in it??? Saddam,,the mid-east...its horrible.

Take care

Copyright (C) by Jody Carver 2005 All Rights Reserved

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 18 June 2005 at 01:19 PM.]

Rich Weiss
Member

From: Woodland Hills, CA, USA

posted 07 September 2002 10:07 AM     profile     
So if Santo played the steel guitar on all the recordings, why is Johnny the one who got voted into the SGHOF? Are you all sure that it was Santo who played the steel on Sleepwalk?
Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 07 September 2002 10:07 AM     profile     

Jody,

I first heard "Sleepwalk" in my place of employment in the summer of 1960. I'm so glad that you have explained who originally did the hit recording. Gloria Pennington of National Music Foundation said in September of 1999, after hearing comments made about the two brothers, at our Annual Ma. Steel Guitar Bash, " Johnny Farina was one of the first entertainers to come to the Foundation, and what a wonderful time he provided for the audience. When I go home tonight, I'm going to call Johnny, and ask him if he would join us at next years S.G. Bash." According to Johnny, he was booked a year ahead at "Foxwoods Casino" in Ct. As it turned out, the N.M.F. relocated in New York City, and the Ma. Bash was held the following year in Lee, Ma. We were so fortunate in 1999, when "Buzz" Evans performed at our S. G. Bash, at the N.M.F. It was a lifetime gift from one of the greatest performers in today's world of steel guitar.

I hope to hear Johnny Farina in the future. If he books within a 100 mi. radius of Pittsfield, Ma., I would like to attend the show.

Bill H.


Jim Smith
Member

From: Plano, TX, USA

posted 07 September 2002 12:17 PM     profile     
Santo and Johnny were inducted together. Santo is out of the country either won't or refuses to return.
Rich Weiss
Member

From: Woodland Hills, CA, USA

posted 07 September 2002 12:59 PM     profile     
Santo is the steel player. Yes or no?
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 07 September 2002 01:05 PM     profile     
Rich,,,ONE MORE TIME...S A N T O played
steel guitar on all the recordings. Johnny accepted the award on behalf of himself and
his brother. But it was presented in a manner
of the popularity of the recording.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND???? REPEAT..SANTO PLAYED THE STEEL ON THE ORIGINAL RECORDING ON CANADIAN/AMERICAN RECORDS. No I dont know what color suits they were wearing.


Jim Smith
Member

From: Plano, TX, USA

posted 07 September 2002 01:07 PM     profile     
They both play steel. Johhny played steel at the ISGC.
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 07 September 2002 02:24 PM     profile     
I think we are probing into a personal matter
here. The writers of Sleepwalk were Santo & Johnny,,,Mike Dee their Uncle played drums on the date. Johnny never played steel until
they split up. There were three credits given to the three writers of Sleepwalk,,

Farina,Farina,Farina. It is a personal matter
where Santo resides at present. They both have homes in Plainview Long Island.

Santo is not in this country at the present time and "there is NO BAD BLOOD' between them. Its a personal matter and I dont feel it neccesary to go into a full explanation.

Didnt mean to be short with you Rich,,but I get phone calls and e mail re the very same question you asked,,,,it gets redundant,,and
If I caused you any discomfort Im sorry,,,

We all have our good days,,,,this has not been one of those days for me. Sorry my friend. The comments I make are the truth and
nothing but the truth. Im in touch with Mike every week and we seldom discuss this matter.

Copyright (C) by Jody Carver 2005 All Rights
Reserved

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 18 June 2005 at 01:21 PM.]

Don Sulesky
Member

From: Hernando, Fl. usa

posted 07 September 2002 02:25 PM     profile     
Like Jody said it was SANTO, SANTO ,SANTO. Who played steel on the songs.
I know what I saw and I talked to them for about 20 minutes and they had black suits and patent leather shoes.
And as Paul Harvey would say "That's the end of the story".
Don
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 07 September 2002 02:56 PM     profile     
Thanks Don
You forgot to mention the color of their "ties"

SANTO, SANTO, SANTO, and Yes the CASE IS CLOSED.

Thanks your Honor. They have been "aquitted"

and me as well.

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 07 September 2002 03:16 PM     profile     
So, then, you're saying that it was...SANTO?
Mike Perlowin
Member

From: Los Angeles CA

posted 07 September 2002 03:27 PM     profile     
I remember seeing S&J on American Bandstand during the time Sleepwalk was a big hit. I remember that I didn't know what that thing was that Santo was playing, but I thought that it looked like it was really easy.
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 07 September 2002 04:20 PM     profile     
Out of curiosity,,,I called Mike,,you know know him as "The Uncle" I asked him what they were wearing the day they did the session??Mmmmm lemmmme see he replies,,,,,,

Oh yeah I remember..we were wearing "PAJAMAS"
I mean they were "walking in their sleep"....

Would you wear a "black tight fitting suit" if you were "Sleepwalking"???? and those pointed shoes "ouch"

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I call Mike the "Uncle" you can call me
The "Aunt" spelled aunt..not "ant".

Yes Howard..how did you ever guess it was.

SANTO..SANTO..SANTO.. SANTO..

Thanks to all of you..

Santo & Johnnys "Aunt Jody" Oh how stupid of me to forget. Whenever you see an "Uncle" you'll find an "Aunt"...so if you have an "Uncle" look in his pants for "ants"

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 07 September 2002 at 08:20 PM.]

Doug Beaumier
Member

From: Northampton, MA

posted 07 September 2002 10:08 PM     profile     
I have great respect for Santo & Johnny and I applaud Johnny's efforts in keeping the steel guitar alive.

I do think it's interesting how Johnny has made the transition from guitar player to steel player in recent years, filling his brother's shoes, and touring the casino circuit as "Johnny of the Original Guitar Duo Santo & Johnny". Of course "Sleepwalk" is always mentioned in the advertising. It is true that Johnny played on the original Sleepwalk... guitar, not steel. To make matters more confusing, Johnny recently re-recorded Sleepwalk on a new CD, and he sells the new version at his shows and on the internet.

I don't think the average listener really cares who played what instrument in a band. The average person doesn't know a steel guitar from a guitar anyway. I do think however that every steel player should be aware of who played Sleepwalk, and it irks me every time I read a post here on the steel forum where someone gives Johnny Farina credit for playing Sleepwalk.

IMHO Johnny is doing a positive thing by touring, playing, and promoting steel guitar... I'd rather see him doing it than not doing it. I just think it's important for steel players to know who Santo Farina was/is and to know the history of the instrument.

Okay... I'm putting on my flame-retardant suit!

[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 07 September 2002 at 10:56 PM.]

Dave Horch
Member

From: Frederick, Maryland, USA

posted 07 September 2002 11:34 PM     profile     
quote:
The average person doesn't know a steel guitar from a guitar anyway.

Doug, let's face it... The average person doesn't know a steel guitar from a saw horse! Best, -Dave

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Eric Stumpf
Member

From: Newbury, NH 03255

posted 08 September 2002 05:29 AM     profile     
According to liner notes of CD "The Best of Santo & Johnny" Canadian American CACD-1008: "Santo Farina, inspired by a Hawaiian guitar player on a TV show "Home-Town Frolics", began taking steel lessons from two separate techers: an Italian professor in a music shop, and a Hawaiian named Fred Phillips, who eventually moved back to the islands. Santo's brother, johnny Farina also became interested in the guitar and started learning rhythm guitar to play along. With the help of their sister Ann, they wrote a song which they called "Deep Sleep", loosely based on a song entitled "Softly As In A Morning Sunrise", a hit by Nat Shilkret's Victor Orchestra in 1929." That song was later re-titled "Sleep Walk".
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 08 September 2002 05:56 AM     profile     
ERIC FOR YOU

Thats all I can say to you. You did pick up
the "theme" of "Softly as The Morning Sunrise". You have good ears my friend.

Amazing,,,,,thats what started it. and again
to those who refuse to listen. It was SANTO,SANTO,SANTO, you will get no arguments
from me....thats all History now.

Thanks to Don Sulesky who knew this all the time as well as I did. Im outta here.

Joe Casey
Member

From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

posted 08 September 2002 07:22 AM     profile     
Johnny was genuinely humbled by the induction.He also was in awe of all the talent he witnessed that preceded him to the stage.Jody: he wore a Black suit(tie-less.And in the shape he was in it could very well have been an original from the "old days"...A great addition to the H.O.F.... Before he played his show on his monologue he stated how it was his brother who played steel on the record and he played the guitar.He also stated it was their father who introduced them to the Steel and wanted them to play it. Just Imagine Folks the HOF inducts players from all over the whole world..including Brooklyn....Chicopee can't be that far off.

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CJC

[This message was edited by Joe Casey on 08 September 2002 at 07:26 AM.]

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 08 September 2002 08:06 AM     profile     
I started this thread as a "Tribute" and Acknowledgement of my good friend MIKE DEE.

It has turned into a session of "disputes" which is not unusual on this Forum.

I was not looking to open a bee's nest I only wanted to acknowledge a man who was the
"MAN" who started Santo & Johnny on their long voyage of fame.

When I see someone post something,,why is there always someone who takes issue??? If someone says...Its Black...another replies,,NO Its "Dark Navy Blue" another will
post,,,Its "white" another" says NO....Its
"off white" what is the problem here?

I will clarify a few points and the rest you can read in my book,,if you wish,,if not,,thats no problem either.

The names that appear as the writers of Sleep
Walk are,,Santo Farina, Johnny Farina, Anne
Farina,,Santo's wife.you got that?

Mike Dee is the uncle of Santo & Johnny.Mike's sister was the mother of Santo
& Johnny and thank God she is alive and well.

Santo& Johnnys dad passed away a short time back,,(see my tribute to Anthony Farina) Extended family that is now in the archives of this Forum.

Most of the early days prior to their recording of Sleepwalk,they played at a club on Long Islands North Shore,,the name of the club was "The Amber Inn".

I have known both of these fellows a good part of my life and have known Mike Dee as long as well.

I have had and still have the utmost respect
for both Santo and Johnny,,,whether they are
playing together or not. I regard both of them as friends,,,It is never been what they are,,but WHO they are that is most important to me.

Johnny has just completed a gig on a cruise
line prior to his being inducted into HOF.

Jerry Vale (ya know who he is??) and Frank Sinatra Jr.Thats Frank Sinatra's son,,( you know who he is??) there are times like this
that irritates the hell out of me,,and at this point I have run out of patience.

My sense of Humor is fading fast.I never thought that would happen.

Its like a ballplayer who loses the incentive
to get out there for the team and break his back to make a play.

Its like a Pilot who has been behind the controls and long overdue for rest or retirement.

I am suffering from F.F. thats what I refer to as "Forum Fatigue". Its no longer fun,,I have tried but have failed miserably. When the F.F. gets in the way..The time has come.

I have nothing more to add,,,and all the while I thought I was having fun,,. Sarcasim?
NO....just the facts as Joe Friday (would say) ya remember him.

I have no more patience to deal with e mails
degrading my character,,,I have no more interest to debates..this is NO LONGER FUN.

I Dont Care what color suit Johnny was wearing and whether or not he was wearing a tie,,,,,This was supposed to be about my friend MIKE DEE..Santo & Johnnys UNCLE,,Mikes
sister was Santo & Johnnys mother. Ya Got it
now???

It hard to please everyone,,,No I am not being run off here as others say when their leaving,,Im just TIRED of what I have read here and have read on this Forum since day one. I have made one post too many,,,ya know what I mean?? edited,,I couldn't leave without a
smile,,,,they cant take that away from me.

CopyRight(c) by Jody Carver 2005 All Rights Reserved

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 18 June 2005 at 01:06 PM.]

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 09 September 2002 06:10 PM     profile     
May I present to the jury exhibit A

From what I understand, their split up was an amicable one. Santo was allowed to leave due to a stipulation in their contract, known as the "Santo Clause"....

Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 10 September 2002 05:04 AM     profile     
FWIW....I have a copy of the original 45rpm released by Canadian American Records, Ltd, with "Sleepwalk" on one side, and "All Night Diner" on the other. Both sides credit "Farina-Farina-Farina" as the writers. I bought this record when it was first released so I could learn the songs for the band I was playing with at the time.

(Whew, that was a long time ago...is anyone else on the Forum old enough to remember bands wearing Nehru jackets and gold chain necklaces?)
www.genejones.com

George Mc Lellan
Member

From: Duluth, MN USA

posted 10 September 2002 07:21 AM     profile     
Gene, who could afford gold chains back then????

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Geo


Don Sulesky
Member

From: Hernando, Fl. usa

posted 10 September 2002 07:48 AM     profile     
In my first band the "Galaxies" we wore Fabian sweaters.
I also have their second 45 which was "Tear Drop" with "Long Walk Home" on the flip Side. The credits on these were also Farina, Farina, Farina.
Don
Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 10 September 2002 07:55 AM     profile     
George....It was easy if you bought them from the 5&10 cent store. The downside was when you sweated they turned your neck and your turtle-neck green!

I liked the picture you sent. We had jackets like that except they were black with white turtle-necks.

A club manager eventually made us stop wearing the black because he said we looked like "priests" and it bothered some of the customers. www.genejones.com

Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 10 September 2002 09:01 AM     profile     
.....I forgot to give credit to "Sleepwalk" for my "return" to the steel guitar. Due to Elvis and the Beatles, the steel guitar was like the plague in the studios and in the clubs during the 1950's, so I had given up the steel and was playing bass in R&B bands.

When Sleepwalk came out I returned to the steel.....and Sleepwalk became 2nd place to Steel-Guitar Rag for the most requested song from the customers of that era.

If there is a lesson in any of this (Sleepwalk & Steel Guitar Rag), it is...."keep it simple". www.genejones.com

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 10 September 2002 08:25 PM     profile     
Gene,Don,
Thank you for your contributions on this thread,,I will make copies of this for Mike
Dee,,he will appreciate everything said about him and Santo & Johnny as well.........

MIKE WAS THE MAN BEHIND SANTO & JOHNNY,,,,,,,

I KNOW I WAS THERE. A Great drummer and more than anything else,,,a Wonderful friend..just
like YOU....MIKE DEE was and will always be
"THE CREAM OF FARINA TO ME".

God Be With You..

Jody. I will send you both my snail mail address.

Joey Ace,,This was "One For My Baby.........
"MIKE DEE and One More For The Road".

MIKE WAS DA MAIN MAN behind S&J..he is everybodys "Uncle" even your's. They DONT come any better than "UNCLE MIKE DEE" and you
can take that to the BANK. All banks have tellers...Im the TELLER HERE and you are at
my window,,,can I be of service sir?

THE END.edited for copyright (C) by Jody Carver 2005 All Rights Reserved

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 18 June 2005 at 01:04 PM.]

Kevin Ruddell
Member

From: Toledo Ohio USA

posted 20 September 2002 06:27 PM     profile     
Jody , thanks for the great story about Mike Dee and his connection with the rest of his family
basilh
Member

From: United Kingdom

posted 18 June 2005 06:26 PM     profile     
Joe Casey said
quote:
Just Imagine Folks the HOF inducts players from all over the whole world

If only !!
Baz
Larry W. Jones
Member

From: Kingwood TX & Longmont CO

posted 19 June 2005 06:33 AM     profile     
I already posted this on the "no peddlers" page. I just gave a copy of the original sheet music to my steel guitar teacher, and the first thing he said was, "I didn't know it had words to it." Neither did I, nor most other folks, until Ron Victoria sent me a copy of the original sheet music. http://pic-a-pagediscounts.com/images/sleepwalkoriginal.jpg
It's actually easier to play since you can hum the lyrics along with the playing.
code:

Sleepwalk


Sleep Walk
'stead of dreamin', I
Sleep Walk
'cause I lost you and
now what am I to do
Can't believe that we're
through


Sleep Talk
'cause I miss you I
Sleep Talk
while the mem'ry of
you lingers like a song
Darling, I was so
wrong


The
night fills my lonely
place. I see your
face spin thru my
brain, I
know I want you
so
you and it drives me in-
sane


Sleep Walk
Every night I just
Sleep Walk
Please come back and when
you walk inside the door
I will Sleep Walk no
more!


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