Lionel Hampton, the vibes player used to do it so loud as to be distracting, and can be heard on his most famous recording.

Neil Rogerson, a local player of much respect used to have trouble with a keyboard player in one instance that I heard of, and relayed a comical "cure" he found involving a glass of water..

What I notice is that when I'm trying to ignore the Rythym, or rather the *percussion* section, I do it the most, also when I'm next to an annoying hollow body, out of tune guitar.

I think it provides a physical link that over-rides what one hears while playing.

I caught myself last night when our local "godfather", Ray Montee came out with the Missus to hear us. Usually I'm playing at the old Bakersfield/Eastern Shore ear bleeding volume, where you can't hear gunfire. I thought I'd "dynamicize", and realised it might be coming thru the mix.. I think Ray was paying more attention to my "kitchen knife handle" collection under the steel. ( I hope that was what he was looking at...)

I know it's a bad habit. Many times I've come home from playing a "combat" gig nearly hoarse.

Anybody else?

Any famous grunters, or are they all relegated to the low level scrap heap of the money gigging hacks that I seem to be headed for?

Drew

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That is Errol...

Thanks,

TH

I grunt sometimes, I've never had a constant grunt going though...mostly just on the accents...I guess it depends on what I'm playing.

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I am a major grunter while playing. While I worked for Gene Watson, I had to chew a huge chunk of gum when doing his records to keep from being heard grunting. Al Pachuki, the engineer at Pete's Place (Pete Drake's studio) where we did alot of Gene's records singled me out one time and had a ton of fun with my grunting. The gum was the only thing I could think of to help me be quite. I still have to do this when recording and it works.

When on stage, where the volume level flows with a little more gusto, I don't worry about it. It is very entertaining for my wife though if I decide to practice through head-phones at home... then the grunting really is in evidence !!!

When I was a kid, I loved to listen to my parents Errol Garner records too. You guys are right, he could be heard grunting over his piano, big time.

Sometimes, when I'm driving and playing CDs, I'll stop for gas, only to discover I've got a slightly sore throat - again, I have no idea I'm 'grunting' along with the music, but I guess I must be.

Thanks to this 'thread', I now know I'm in some pretty lofty musical company!

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Thanks for your patronage last nite. I really enjoy playing Larry Jeff's songlist. Nobody around here seems to appreciate the old stuff.

Well.. What the hell is "Cabinet Drop"? I think that happened at Montana's in Seattle when the hand truck I was driving hit a bump..

I actually tightened up the legs a bit after youse left. I wanted it to look like I was working.

The Cadilac emblem? Well, I might get in "trouble". ( what then?), But Bud Charleton told me at one time that a certain local brand of steel guitar was like a "Cadilac without an engine". ( Before Mr Emmons started playing one, whereapon he thought they were the hottest thing since canned beer..) With those pickups that Danny wrapped for me years ago, I felt like I had to show that this is one that *does*. Kind of like an Old Telecaster. I don't really care if there are titanium/graphite/kryptonized/compensated/ or otherwise improved rigs out there. I still can't play Bud's Bounce exactly the way I want it, and a new guitar or a 3000$ effects rack just won't help me. The Old Pro III is patiently waiting for me to catch up. Dog hair and all...

The RR/DE underwear..

After you left, a couple dancers came in from Exotica with a buddy of mine, and you could see Trigger, Nellybell, and Bullet...

Richard Edge, of the old local Amarillo band and originally of the Bobby Helms band still has his old pre 63 non roller non "chromatic" Sho-Bud. D10 1 knee, and if you think *mine* has seen it...

I think I'm gonna blue laquer it like everybody else and get a half dozen more knife handles..

Well, back to *Stun* volume....

Thanks again.

Work/sleep/gig/work/sleep/gig/bike/etc. etc. ad infinitum

Tired Old Eric West.

Ray, are you losing weight?

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[This message was edited by Eric West on 29 October 2002 at 06:54 PM.]

I think my El Joneso Voodoo Doll jumped out of my briefcase..

I think you're being missed at *your gig*. I think I'm using too much reverb.

I heard that CD, and it's gonna keep me busy for a month *trying* to cop half of your C6 stuff.

The E9 stuff will have to wait til my silverware shipment comes in..

Hurry back. I think Artie's going to go off the "deep end".... He went out and bought a case of Nyquil and a roll of duct tape..

Erico