When I first merged the Pedal Steel into my life in the early 70's I was basically a Country Rocker at the time. I listend to Rusty Young, Buddy Cage, John Call, Sneaky Pete..all those guys.

My friend, the now Dr. Marty Friedman from
NYC who played a Red Emmons D10 at the time came to my home with records of guys I never heard of.And he said..

...stop learning from those guys and start listening to and learning from these guys, cause' these are the guys those other guys are listening to and learning from. Make sense..? it did for me , as soon as I heard the Black Album..BE..of course..I knew what I needed to do..I went to Sam Ashe in NYC and came home with a Sho-Bud Pro III /D10/8+4.

Buddy, Lloyd, Hal, John H. , Weldon, Paul, etc..

Simplicity..Listen to the early Don Williams records..now there are some tunes that influenced me back then and still do today.

Another great favorite of mine which I have owned for 25 years and just started listening to again is Buddy Emmons with Shot Jackson, "Aces Back Together Again" the simplicity of the melody lines and brilliance of thier playing is second to non.

Now the only issue you may run into not far down the road , and I know we beat this topic up last week. When you attempt to learn some of those early Lloyd or Buddy phrases ( and you will want to ) on
your S-8...you will immediatly see why your new forum family was recommending a ten stringer with several knee levers.

So I say..keep the Fender S-8, its a valued treasure ( I actually have my eye on one here in NC ) but do consider another Steel such as an S-10 with extended levers so that when you are listening to all those great players on record , even from way back, you can sit at your Instrument and work out those phrases instead of look at your Instrument and wish you could work out those phrases.

Early Buddy and Lloyd pretty much is the reason this forum exists.

happy sunday

tp

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 16 February 2003 at 03:54 AM.]

JB

See ya in Dallas...

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"All in all, looking back, I'd have to say the best advice anyone ever gave me was 'Hands Up, Don't Move!"
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http://www.nrpsmusic.com/index.html

The "Northern Steel" CD even has liner notes that tell the brand of Steel on each track. With one CD you can hear MSA (with MIDI), EMCI, Emmons, Carter, Franklin, Fender Stringmaster, Rickenbacker Lap, Sho-Bud, and more. There are Rhythm Tracks availble for most of it, and Tab available for some.

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The entire "Nightlife" album by Ray Price, with Emmons and Jimmy Day on steels.

The entire "The Other Woman" album by Ray Price, with Emmons and Jimmy Day on steels.

Buck Owens and the Buckaroos "Live at Carnegie Hall"

In Person-Charlie Pride live at Panther Hall with Lloyd Green

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Steel what?

I think most f the PSG was done on a Fender too, so that might be of interest to ya!

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Mattman in "The Big Sleazy"-:
S-10 Dekley, Suitcase Fender Rhodes, B-bender Les Paul

Buddy Emmons
Lloyd Green
Jimmy Day
Sneaky Pete Kleinow

Listen to players from outside your "musical preference" zone. If you are a "punk rocker" musician, you will find all sorts of new ideas and sounds in classic country. A country player can hear new stuff in a jazz recording - etc. You already "know" how your favorite music sounds. You already know how the licks should fit. Listening to another type opens up your ears and your imagination. You will also have a much larger list of players to hear.

In addition to the many 'greats' already listed, you may wish to listen to Bruce Bouton (along with guitar player Ray Flacke) picking up a storm with Ricky Skaggs - 'Highways & Heartaches'.

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Some of my favorite back-up pedal steel is on these albums:

Merle Haggard "Live at Billy Bob's Texas" (Norm Hamlet)

Charley Pride "Live at Panther Hall" (Lloyd Green)

Rodney Crowell "Diamonds & Dirt" (Paul Franklin)

Anything by George Strait or Alan Jackson (mostly Paul Franklin)

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Bill Ford

[This message was edited by Bill Ford on 17 February 2003 at 07:31 PM.]

Ernest Tubb record shop has it

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Regards, Craig

PLAY WHAT YOU FEEL inside......... Listen to new and different sounds by others and simply incorporate them into what you FEEL and then forget the "others". They are great because they're playing what they feel inside..........

Reece Anderson gave me some of the best advice of any steel player about 25 years ago. He said start listening to other instruments, piano, horns, etc.

Speedy West also told me to listen to other steel players but to develop my own sound. The older top players ALL had their own unique styles and sounds. Don't be just a copycat.

Lastly, of course I'd prefer you listen to THE GOSPEL and praise and worship music. It's the best and JESUS loves you.