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Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() Found this on a live dire straits recording from '92, I'm sure many of you have heard it, but I have listened to it so many times in the last few days I thought I should share it with those of you who might not have had the pleasure. Here It Is [This message was edited by Jesse Harris on 10 June 2003 at 09:22 AM.] |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Yeah, I know what you mean. There's another version on 'On the Night' at a slightly slower tempo. Obviously, it's the Dire Strait's classic 'Walk of Life'. Where did this recording come from? I'm pretty sure it's not the version I'm accustomed to hearing, but it is CLOSE. Obviously a solo Paul COMPOSED, as opposed to IMPROVISED. There are slight variations in sections, but the overall flow and ideas are the same. Actually, Pete Grant, Terry Wendt and I bounced that version back and forth for a while and came up with a pretty accurate transcription. I think I can still play it. I've never been able to convince my band to work it up, but I use several ideas in solos all the time. Some of the triplet stuff is WAY COOL. ------------------ |
Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() This is from a show taped in Barcelona May 8th 1992. I have the entire concert, I downloaded it from futher network which is a p2p filesharing system that only trades in legal live tapes. |
Tony LaCroix Member From: Austin, Texas, USA |
![]() Super cool. ![]() Where could a little guy like me get tab for such a thing? |
Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() Man I sure would like to know. |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() I'll put my .02$ in on this and say that what I think PF excels at is the ability to fit a lick in starting on any part of a phrase, turning it around on a dime, and being able to throw in a pregnant pause at the end of something, starting at the end of any riff. The 2 E9 "speed" ( yes, the dreaded "S Word") picking CDs I got from him are EXCELLENT in this respect. Also, after going through them both in a period of two weeks, they've helped me massively in "deciphering" licks that were puzzling me. Most of them I've found "keys" to were done on a standard setup as far as I can tell. (I've got a couple I can tab out that were really stumping me, and wouldn't be "giving away" any "secrets" on the CDs. It's got to do with starting on a minor riff, and going major, sliding up two frets from the start point letting the pedals off.) I felt pretty silly when I found out that the "Nervous Breakdown", that some of these guys have been trying to cop from the Brad Paisley CD is 30 years old! DOne by Jerry Reed, and if my fading memory serves me, PF was 18 at the time! Anyhow, I highly recommend his CDs for anybody needing fresh ideas, or trying to "transcribe" his "old stuff". Back to it. EJL |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Did you guys read what I wrote above? I HAVE the tab ------------------ |
Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() gee,,I wish someone had the tab and it mysteriously ended up in my inbox, that would be so wierd.........anyone???? larry if you could send me some of that I would be forever grateful thanks |
Tony LaCroix Member From: Austin, Texas, USA |
![]() That makes two of us. I could spend months learning pieces of that great ride, or I could play Red River Valley over and over again ![]() 'twould be greatly appreciated, Larry. |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Try this on for size http://www.larrybell.org/WalkofLife.xls in MS Excel format. I'm sure it's not exactly like Paul played it, but it sounds very close to me. One of the hottest and hippest solos I've ever heard on steel. ------------------ [This message was edited by Larry Bell on 10 June 2003 at 03:04 PM.] |
CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
![]() Muchas Gracias Larry ![]() ------------------ |
Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() larry rules |
Chris Bauer Member From: Nashville, TN USA |
![]() Thanks! |
David Wright Member From: Modesto .Ca USA. |
![]() I have both the CD & video, Paul just plays his $ss off all though the CD, the video is a must, Paul was out front and in your face with his GREAT playing !!!! ![]() ------------------ Sierra S-12 9&7 |
C Dixon Member From: Duluth, GA USA |
![]() Paul Franklin, like a select few, has been endowed buy Jesus with a talent so inate, that very few others have ever known what it is. He not only hears things few hear, BUT God has given him the ability to transfer that hearing thru his heart and to his fingers as he dazzles us with his incredible playing. His attack, touch and phrasing makes him among the all time greats. And forever places him in that league of so few that are truly awesome. His ability to create outstanding licks ON the spot puts him in the league held by sooooo very few. He deserves all the accolades he has received; and will continue to receive in the future. May God continue to bless him with this gift that is ONLY possible through the grace of our precious Savior, carl |
Gerald Menke Member From: Brooklyn, NY, USA |
![]() Thanks for that one Jesse! And thanks for the tab Larry!! That solo brings both a smile to your face and a tear to your eye it's so good. I'd never heard it before, and thank you for sharing it with us. Anybody know what Knopfler says before he says "Paul Franklin..."? What a great ride. Gerald |
Tony LaCroix Member From: Austin, Texas, USA |
![]() That's FANTASTIC, Larry! Thank you. |
CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
![]() sounds like MK says : "best pedal steel player in the World" |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() CB has it right And he must've said it on every performance -- it's the same on the video/CD version. The interplay between the musicians on this project is SUPERB. Sax player, KB player, Knopfler, and the other guitarist work with Paul like a well oiled machine. May well be the best band I've ever heard. Rhythm section kicks butt too. ------------------ |
Ted Solesky Member From: Mineral Wells, Texas, USA |
![]() Just a quick note. I heard from good source that the ride that Paul took in "Nervous Breakdown", was a first take. |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA |
![]() Larry, thanks for the song and tab. I play 6 string lap steel but this song has me thinking that if I put it to musical notation, then I could maybe find where some of the lines could be done on the non pedal. *Could someone please tell me what the pedals A, B, C, do to the notes that they are next to and where the two levers are on the steel if you are sitting in front of it like your going to play it. I think the pedals raise the note they are beside a half step and one lever raises a note a half step and another lever lowers the note a half step? Thanks... |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() They're the standard E9 changes. A and C pedals are whole tone raises. (A raises the 5th tone to 6th -- B to C# on 5th/10th string; C raises the 4th string (tonic E to major second F#) and 5th (B to C#); and B pedal is a half tone raise G# to A (major 3rd to 4th) on the 3rd/6th strings. One lever lowers the E's (4th/8th) a half tone; the other raises 4th/8th a half tone. If you go to the TUNINGS page (accessible from b0b.com) you'll see the standard E9 changes. Also noteworthy that the entire solo is done from the 8th string up. The levers' physical location vary somewhat, but they just happen to be in the same location on my guitar as on Paul's (Left Knee moving left raises the E's; Right Knee moving left lowers them -- both half step changes) [This message was edited by Larry Bell on 12 June 2003 at 06:56 AM.] |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA |
![]() Thanks Larry, this is gonna be fun! Real nice work there on the tab. And thanks to Jesse Harris also. ![]() |
Bob Carlson Member From: Surprise AZ. |
![]() That's about the time Paul went on a two year world tour with The Boss. Bob |
Franklin Member From: |
![]() Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!!! The Walk of Life solo was originally an improvised solo (not a composed one) that I learned during rehearsals. We rehearsed 2 months for the tour. Mark wanted all the details right(Lights, Guitar changes, and ofcourse the music) Each day of rehearsals were taped. I would experiment with different solos as did everyone until I heard that one back. It was a keeper, so I commited it to memory. I did vary it sometimes on shows out of boredom, but it basically stayed the same throughout the tour. Nervous Breakdown was a first take solo that haunts me to this day. I wanted to play it over and pocket it better as it does rush. Hearing it still makes me cringe. I was very nervous being that it was the first time I had ever recorded with Reed. I knew all of his instrumentals become guitar history. That was too much pressure for me at that age. Anyway thanks for remembering those moments. Paul |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() No, Paul Thank YOU You've brought us to a new level. You keep raising the bar and we keep stretching for it. I learned a lot about the instrument and the process of improvisation dissecting that solo. Truly, one of the best ever. ------------------ |
Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
![]() Paul also did a super solo on my friend Doyle Dykes' album "Country Fried Pickin'" on the song, "Me And Jesus" plus other great tunes he added his magic to. |
Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
![]() wow 2 cents from Paul, damn that's cool. SGF rules. |
CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
![]() YES Thank You Paul ![]() ------------------ |
Tim Tweedale Member From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada |
![]() I just rented the Mark Knopfler video "A Night In London" tonight, and Paul Franklin's solo on Walk of Life blew my mind. I had to re-watch it about five or six times. I'd really like to transcribe that particular version for lapsteel. Does anyone have a clip of the solo from the Night in London version of the song? I'm going to start by writing it in standard notation. -Tim |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Tim I can only wish you the best of luck. It was hard enough to transcribe and play up to tempo on pedal steel and pedal slurs + bar movement are required to get the feel and the speed. If you just look at the first few measures, there's stuff there I can't imagine would be possible, so I'd be really interested to hear you pull it off on lapsteel. Please keep us informed how your trip up Mt. Everest is coming. ![]() Plese post a sound clip once you get it done. Looking forward to being blown away yet again by that solo. ------------------ |
Derek Duplessie Member From: La Jolla CA USA |
![]() Does anyone know where I can buy or rent the video? Thanks!!!!!! ![]() |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA |
![]() Howdy Derek, go check out Tower Records on Sports Arena Ave, I think they used to have it. ![]() |
Bill Fulbright Member From: Atlanta, GA |
![]() I bought the 'On the Night' Live video on Amazon for $9.95. It is excellent. PF blends so well, you would have thought PSG was not associated with country.... awesome job on Sr. Franlin's part. ------------------ |
Derek Duplessie Member From: La Jolla CA USA |
![]() Thanks alot guys!!!! I'll check that out right away. Jesse, by the way we used to live out in the country estates. It's beautiful out there! Thanks again. -Derek |
David Langdon Member From: West Bridgford, Nottingham Notts, United Kingdom |
![]() I've been reading this thread for a while to see the various comments on this solo of P.F.It must be at least 7 or 8 years ago that I worked out how to play this and practising for hours to get up to speed on the triplets section. However what I took away from this experience was to be used in the future. On the end of one of a song called "3 cornered hat" by my band "Magic Car" I play a triplet up and down keeping one string ringing all the way through as in P.F. but staccato on TWO other strings. It just so fits the end of the song, it doesn't sound like it's pinched from the solo, but I would'nt have come up with it if I had'nt learned the P.F. solo. So thanks Paul, this is how influences push technique further forward. If you want to hear the solo and end of this song, go to your local Virgin store in the U.S. and it should be on a listening post. Look for the "Best of British" promotion "Magic Car" "Yellow Main Sequence" and track "Three Cornered Hat".David. |
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