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Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
posted 27 August 2003 05:21 AM
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What great classic songs where recorded in C6th and who was playing pedal steel on them? |
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Roger Kelly Member From: Mount Carmel, TN. 37645 |
posted 27 August 2003 05:31 AM
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"Night Life" by Ray Price played by the one and only Buddy Emmons......a Classic! |
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Bob Tuttle Member From: San Angelo, Tx, USA |
posted 27 August 2003 09:39 AM
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"I Love You Because" by Carl Smith, with Curly Chalker on steel. One of my favorites. |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 27 August 2003 09:39 AM
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"I Love You Because" by Carl Smith (?) with I believe Curly Chalker Dang Bob, You just barely beat me to it. [This message was edited by Richard Sinkler on 27 August 2003 at 09:40 AM.] |
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JERRY THURMOND Member From: sullivan mo u.s.a. |
posted 27 August 2003 12:25 PM
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Good Deal, Lucille Carl Smith Curly Chalker |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 27 August 2003 01:12 PM
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Nightlife truly was one of the best but I agree with these three on the Carl Smith recordings with Curly playing that started in 1969 with "Lucille". The double album that was released afterwards with that and several others were so great. Big Jim Murphey also played some great C6 stuff on the same package. Chalker also did some mind blowing stuff behind Travis, Hitchcock, Gibson, Thompson, Dickens, Bush and several others that are unmatchable today. |
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Kenny Davis Member From: Great State of Oklahoma |
posted 27 August 2003 08:18 PM
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Some pretty good songs, but I don't think you'll log very many "hits" if any, on this one! |
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Mike Jones Member From: Goodlettsville,TN,USA |
posted 27 August 2003 08:32 PM
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The Shadow of Your Smile by Stan Hitchcock and Mr Chalker on steel. One of my all time favorites. |
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nick allen Member From: France |
posted 27 August 2003 11:27 PM
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I've read that Pete Drake played a lot of C6, at least for his instrumentals - were any of his famous hit back-ups done on C6? Nick |
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Tim Sergent Member From: Hendersonville, TN, USA |
posted 28 August 2003 07:17 AM
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Weldon Myrick played a nice up tempo solo on George Straits version of "Right or Wrong". |
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Paul Graupp Member From: Macon Ga USA |
posted 28 August 2003 07:51 AM
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Mike: Got to agree with you on the Stan Hitchcock version of Shadow Of Your Smile. I especially like the intro he made at the turn around: Ladies and Gentlemen; My good friend, CURLY CHALKER !! They don't make 'em like that anymore !! And lest we forget. Johnny Cox did a fine tribute to his "Good Friend" on the same song and on C6th as well with a nice talk over intro too !! Regards, Paul |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 28 August 2003 08:38 AM
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I am not trying to be argumentative but offer the following comments to support my belief that we as musicians, steel enthusiasts, or general non-commercial specialty music lovers are not like the majority of folks that buy albums. Nobody loves great C6th artistry more than me, but the title of the thread is C6th Hits. I am almost certain that none of Curly’s work with Stan Hitchcock or Johnny Bush charted. Great work by great artists, appreciated by musicians, steel enthusiasts, and a few other cults, YES! Hit record, NO. Did the Carl Smith tunes chart? I am too young to remember for certain but I believe they did. I seem to remember a song “Red Door”? I agree that “Right or Wrong” is a good example. A few others that came to my mind are PF’s work on Strait’s “Something Special” and “All My Ex's”. And how about John Hughey on Alan Jackson’s “I Don’t Even Know Your Name?” How about Buddy on Steve Warner’s "Burnin’ The Roadhouse Down"? We now return to your regularly scheduled program…………
[This message was edited by Bill Cunningham on 28 August 2003 at 12:07 PM.] |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 28 August 2003 08:42 AM
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Are the Curly Chalker tracks previously mentioned available on CD anywhere? I'd love to hear them - 'hits' or not! RR |
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Jeff Lampert Member From: queens, new york city |
posted 28 August 2003 08:57 AM
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All My Ex's Live In Texas Ace In The Hole |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 28 August 2003 09:23 AM
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Jim Phelps posted Curly's intro to "I Love You Because" a while back.  Here's the link:http://www.jimphelps.com/sounds/lyb.ram |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 28 August 2003 09:44 AM
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Bill C. two of Carl Smith's songs,"Good Deal Lucille" and "I Love You Because" were on the charts in '69 and were all over the radio. Smith also did these songs on the old Bill Anderson TV show in '69 or '70. "Red Door" also got a lot of play and I was sent a video clip of him doing that on the old Wilburn Brothers TV show and Curly was spectacular. Don Gibson did two of Smith's recordings "Lucille" and "Bonapart's Retreat" in '69 with Curly playing also. Johnny Bush's song "Tennesee To Texas" was also pretty hot on the air sometime in the '70s with Curly doing his incredible thing. Dickens also rerecorded some of his previous hits in about '69 or '70 with Curly also C6ing the whole time that lit up the radio. Roger, I don't whether there are any CDs with any of this or not but I'm sure something is available. |
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John Knight Member From: Alaska |
posted 28 August 2003 10:46 AM
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Anything off of Big Hits on Big Steel by Curley Chalker, King of the Road stands out. ------------------ |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 28 August 2003 12:06 PM
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Oops..... I meant to say "All My Ex's" instead of Ft. Worth! I'll edit the post above. Gary, thanks for the info on Carl's hits. I remembered seeing he and Curly on TV but didn't remember the show. What is the price to get a copy of that Wilburn Bros. show? Thanks, ------------------ |
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les green Member From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA |
posted 28 August 2003 02:47 PM
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Danny Boy by Charlie McCoy and Curley taking a big cut........... |
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Kenny Dail Member From: Kinston, N.C. 28504 |
posted 28 August 2003 05:03 PM
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Although it wasn't done with pedals, can we include Jerry Byrd's "Steelin' The Blues?" And how can we forget John Hughey's "Deep Water?" ------------------ |
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Larry Harlan Member From: Thomas, OK, USA |
posted 28 August 2003 05:16 PM
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C6th has always struck an inner chord with me being my favorite sound. It's a sound that just commands my attention for some reason. I have often wondered why it hasn't become the "Universal" neck for all music? There has been an enormous amount great C6th stuff done through the years. My mind probably goes first to Bert Rivera and all the work he did for Hank Thompson; prior to him would be Bob White and Bobby Garrett. After Bert left Hank's band, Jim Murphy came on board and also did a great job on C6th stuff. Prior to his doing so, he recorded his "Big Murph," C6th song while with Carl Smith on one of his albums. Certainly Curley and Buddy have their place in my mind also. Best regards. [This message was edited by Larry Harlan on 28 August 2003 at 05:17 PM.] |
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John Bechtel Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A. |
posted 28 August 2003 07:34 PM
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One of my favorite memories of Curley Chalker's C6 work was his part in the turn-around on Hank Thompson's recording of “Sturring Up The Ashes” ------------------ |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 28 August 2003 08:37 PM
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The first big play on radio with Curly playing was on the Travis album in '61. He blew everyone away on a Fender 1000 D-8. Another hit was Ferlin Huskey's song, "Money Greases The Wheel" with Curly on the Fender in the mid 60s. Roy Clark also got a lot of instrumental play on his album done in '63 with Chalker playing C6. This was in the days when radio used to play instrumentals plus the mentioned "Stirring Up The Ashes" and "Twice As Much" with Hank Thompson in about '63 also with CC |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 29 August 2003 04:00 AM
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I have an 30 year old cassette copy of a badly scratched "Travis" album. Has it been reissued on CD? It's heresy I know and I should not admit it, but when I was a beginner in 1973 this album along with Doug Jernigan's Uptown To Country and Maurice Anderson, was much more appealing than the great commercial playing on the current hits. ------------------ |
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Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
posted 29 August 2003 05:35 AM
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quote: I suspect a typo here. Paul Franklin played on this, aka "The Watress Song". First is solo E9, second is C6. |
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Roy Ayres Member From: Starke, Florida, USA |
posted 29 August 2003 05:57 AM
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I'm surprised that none of you old timers haven't mentioned Joaquin Murphey. Although his great single-string work preceeded pedals, he was definately using C6. His tuning did not have either a high G or a D on top -- just the E note (third tone of the C scale.) Of course, Andy was probably thinking the standard C6 with pedals, as in use by most steel players today. Still, I can't let this thread pass by without mention of my friend and "hero" of days gone by. |
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John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada |
posted 29 August 2003 10:29 AM
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I was going to mention "Who's cheatin' who" by AJ with PF on steel, but I'm still not convinced it's actually C6, although it sounds alot like it. So, I'll throw in the fairly current "Overnight Male" by George Strait with Sonny Garrish on steel. An earlier vintage - "Cab Driver" by Hank Thompson, with Curly on steel. -John |
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David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 29 August 2003 06:15 PM
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Seems like if we can't tell the difference, then E9 played in C6 style counts. With the AB pedals down you have an A6 neck. LLoyd Green and others have done C6 style licks that way. Keep the hits coming, guys, I'm learning some good stuff to look for. |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 29 August 2003 07:41 PM
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Joey, according to the notes, PF played the first solo on E9 and JH played the second solo on C6. That was one of those rare occassions when two steel greats played on the same session. Not since Johnny Bush's session and Marcel Dadi's two albums have I known of two steel giants sharing the steel corner. |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 31 August 2003 10:37 AM
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Bill C. It would be great if the old Wilburn Brothers shows were made available for us poor middle class guys could relish in times gone by. Hal Rugg did a great tour of that show before leaving and Curly made a few new fans that didn't know he existed. I'm sure they're sitting around getting dustier and benefitting no one. I heard that Tom Bradshaw approached the holders of the Hee Haw shows to get copies of the band's instrumentals and the price was too high to make it worth while [This message was edited by Gary Walker on 31 August 2003 at 10:38 AM.] |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 31 August 2003 10:58 AM
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I think Willie Nelson bought all the older Wilburn Brothers shows. Up until a couple years ago or so, there was a Yahoo site called "Willie Nelson TV" that played them one after another constantly. They were the shows with Don Helms and later Hal Rugg, but I never saw any with Curly Chalker. It was great while it lasted. |
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Charlie Fullerton Member From: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 04 September 2003 05:07 AM
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And then there was Dick Curless at the Truckers' convention -- Curley Chalker at his best! Also, how about the Bb6th guys like Reece Andersen. |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 04 September 2003 08:20 PM
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Charlie, that was a great show and Curly was at the top of his game. He never really liked studio playing but he was so great at it, but he prefered playing live because he could do "his thing". |
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Dale Bessant Member From: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada |
posted 05 September 2003 08:46 AM
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Did anyone say JOHN HUGHEY playing "Back home again in Indiana" although the live version he played on American Music Shop with Vince,Danny Gatton,Albert Lee was honkin' too..  ...Dick Curless theres a name I haven't heard in a long time,God rest his soul....[This message was edited by Dale Bessant on 05 September 2003 at 08:54 AM.] [This message was edited by Dale Bessant on 05 September 2003 at 10:29 AM.] |
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Gary Glisson Member From: Drummonds, Tn 38023 |
posted 18 April 2006 07:34 AM
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does anyone have nite life tabed out for the c-6th?? would love to try it thanks gary |
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Roger Shackelton Member From: Everett, Wa. |
posted 18 April 2006 08:22 AM
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Nick Allen mentioned Pete Drake. Does anyone remember a C-6th tune he recorded, that was written by Hal Rugg, called "My Bluest Day"? Roger |
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David Wren Member From: Placerville, California, USA |
posted 18 April 2006 01:59 PM
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Not sure if it would be a "hit" but Dire Strait's "Fade To Black" has some very nice PF C6th on it. ------------------ |
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Franklin Member From: |
posted 18 April 2006 02:19 PM
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Almost all of the slide work I do on sessions is on a C6th tuning. So if it has my name and a distorted slide sound on a hit, its C6th. Gary, I played both the E9th and C6th solos on Alan's song, "Married to a Waitress" and on my copy the liner notes list me as the PSG player. Paul [This message was edited by Franklin on 18 April 2006 at 02:19 PM.] |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 19 April 2006 12:06 AM
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Paul, I stand corrected. I was fed bogus information from an expert who knew the "facts." Your sis and I exchanged emails after the original post and she even got your dad's opinion to back her answer. Now, if I can just find out why John is listed on the credits on steel along with Paul. By the way, Doyle Dykes says I think his CD "Country Fried Pickin'" is his best because Paul played on the project and he may have a point. Thanks. [This message was edited by Gary Walker on 19 April 2006 at 12:15 AM.] [This message was edited by Gary Walker on 19 April 2006 at 10:18 AM.] |
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Darryl Hattenhauer Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA |
posted 19 April 2006 10:44 AM
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Friends, How about Herby? Garry, ------------------ |
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