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Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
posted 22 November 2003 08:40 AM
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The word "Professional" sometimes leaves me a little cold. Are we talking about a steel player that plays for money or a player who tours with ranking artists? Perhaps we intend this to be a player who spends most of his time in the recording studio? We may be referring to a player who loves and promotes the instrument, or maybe spends his time promoting the players who attempt to overcome the horn's many quirks? All this while seeking to reveal all those ambiguities with studied improvements such as new approaches in the R & D of different components of the instrument, along with different tuning presentations to accompany those changes. This cat has just about reached the pinnacle in the above, with the exception perhaps of touring with the "Professional Well Known Artists". Maybe even some of the other referenced qualities above don't apply to this individual. I really don't know and darn it, he won't tell me all of his escapades. But I have been able to glean some facts from extensive research into his background. Here we go. This individual first saw the light of day on October 22, 1930 in the southern part of the United States. Eight years later he heard his first Oahu steel guitar in the living room of his parents house. A gentleman was in the neighborhood selling the guitars and lessons to accompany them. An older brother was signed up and a guitar purchased for him. Older brother's attention was a waste of time, but our player would run home from school at lunchtime, play the guitar and hurry back to school. After school the routine was the same. Our player simply couldn't get enough of the instrument and a decision was made to allow him to complete the older brother's contract for the lessons part of the purchase. A statement made by this gent to me and others is, "No other instrument would ever replace the Hawaiian Guitar in my heart and soul." He has lived up to that statement to the fullest. His stated biggest influence lie in the souls of Jerry Byrd, Curly Chalker, and Alvino Rey. He played in several small groups during high school, graduated in 1949, and joined the Navy. After the Korean War he was discharged and returned to his home. He started playing with several unknown groups around his home locale, but was visited regularly by an "unknown" with a name of Elvis and the two of them used to play at the local grocery store for baloney sandwiches (southerners don't know how to spell 'bologna'--thank God) and root beer. Sometimes they managed to play at a local Air Force Base in some of the clubs for a cool $7.50 each. A few of the others who played there went on to become "Professionals"; folks like Jim Reeves, Hank Williams, and a couple of others. In 1957 he decided to go back into the Navy after a year at one of the State Colleges in his state. He played his guitar all over the world but his love of job security and family kept him in the Navy until he retired in 1973. He decided to go on tour with Marty Martel and Johnny Duncan for a short time, but his family necessities required him to seek a more steady source of income and he went to work for a ship building firm in Pascagoula, Mississippi. He also spent a tour in Saudia Arabia as a consultant, but his love for the steel guitar was and remains never ending. After owning such guitars as a homemade double ten in the late fifties and in 1973 a homemade double twelve, his concept for a S-14 Universal was born. He worked for Sierra for a time, making horns for such notables as Joaquin Murphey (sic), and Alvino Rey. Alvino's last guitar was fashioned after this gentleman's guitar which was the prototype for more than 12 string guitars manufactured by Sierra. While there he also formulated the 14 string Universal tuning and Sierra published a booklet on this new tuning procedure. Afterwards he bought and opened a music store in the 80's and eventually turned it into a studio for the high school kids interested in music. After meeting Mitsuo Fujii at one of Scotty's conventions, Mitsuo offered to build him an Excel which our player mortally eats alive when he plays. His artistic talents aren't limited to music. This guy is one of the best Artists with oil paints you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting. Just fantastic with his artwork. He has recorded several CD's and one LP Album. His most prized acknowledgement, with the exception of his family, is the award of the Jerry Byrd Lifetime Achievement Award presented by the International Steel Guitar Hall of Fame Committee at Jerry Byrd's direction. I guess that tells you if he is a "Pro" or not!!! Enough said about this guy...Who is he? ------------------ [This message was edited by Fred Shannon on 22 November 2003 at 08:47 AM.] |
Billy Easton Member From: Casa Grande, Arizona, USA |
posted 22 November 2003 09:07 AM
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Sounds like my friend Bill Stafford!! ------------------ |
Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
posted 22 November 2003 09:50 AM
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Billy, Are you sure? Better think about it.
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George Keoki Lake Member From: Edmonton, AB., Canada |
posted 22 November 2003 10:08 AM
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Absolutely no doubt in my mind...BILL STAFFORD! Such a fantastic musician! |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 22 November 2003 10:14 AM
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Fred, thank you for your acknowledgement of this tried and true, been there and done that, musician....a guy who has been in the trenches and worked many times in his "cleanest dirty shirt"...a real pro! www.genejones.com |
John P.Phillips Member From: Brunswick, Ga. U.S.A. |
posted 22 November 2003 10:09 PM
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AHHHHHH, Mr. Smooth !!! ------------------ |
Tony Davis Member From: Brisbane, QLD, Australia |
posted 23 November 2003 04:50 AM
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I had the pleasure of meeting Bill a while ago when he was here....staying with Noel Anstead. A bunch of us got invited around to Noels to have a few beers and to meet Bill. He had his 14 sting Sierra set up in Noels Garage and just played for us and we all talked..it was great.......Bill would walk away from his guitar and say...."There you go guys...give it a try!"...and let whoever wanted to have a go on it........what a great player and what a great guy! Tony |
John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 23 November 2003 05:44 AM
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Liner Notes from a "Live at Saluda" CD I recorded in Saluda, SC a couple of years ago for BS. I played bass and my good friend Joe Turner handled the board for me.
quote: He ain't half bad for an Ole Phart Just don't get to see him often enough.
quote: Fred ------------------ [Edited for bad english and spelling, since I'm a Redneck] [This message was edited by John Floyd on 23 November 2003 at 06:18 AM.] |
C Dixon Member From: Duluth, GA USA |
posted 23 November 2003 06:15 AM
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NONE smoother on this earth than Bill Stafford. May our precious Savior continue to nuture his talents, and bless all of you, carl |
Roy Ayres Member From: Starke, Florida, USA |
posted 23 November 2003 11:47 AM
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I met Bill earlier this year at the Mobile S.G. show. The smoothness of his playing, the sophisticated songs he selected for his set, and the beautiful voicings and tone he got out of that white 14-string Excel totally overwhelmed me. He became an instant "hero" to me. I introduced myself to him after his performance and I am very proud to consider him a new-found friend. I am anxiously looking forward to hearing some more of his great playing at the Gulfport show in a couple of weeks. |
Hal Higgins Member From: Denham Springs, LA |
posted 23 November 2003 02:02 PM
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For many years I had heard the name Bill Stafford in the circle of steel guitarist friends that I had, but had never met him until just a few short years ago...and I found out that many of the comemnts that I'd heard of Bill were understatements....Bill is, by far, one of the Universal Players, if not the best, players and innovators. Since I met Bill, I've had the pleasure of staying in his home on numerous occasions, and have always been accepted as a pro player, and I consider Bill & his wife Betty as very close and personal friends. I just sit in awe and amazement when Bill sits down behind that 14 string Excel....He floors me with the knowledge and expertise with which he performs. He's not only worthy of the Jerry Byrd Life-time Achievment Award, but how about a place in the SGHOF. I'd vote for him right now. Bill I love ya man....HAL ------------------ |
Bill Stafford Member From: Gulfport,Ms. USA |
posted 24 November 2003 04:52 AM
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Fred, you really know how to give me a good start on a new week,and then the rest of my life. Thanks so much for all your hard work and especially your time in all you do in our steel guitar world. Your input on Roy Ayers was just great! Players and men like him are the ones deserving. The love we have for this instrument gives all of us an itch that never gets fully scratched. But we keep itching and scratching. Lets not forget Speedy West and Bob White and their families in this time of sadness. Those were two of our trail blazers, along with talented players ie Roy Ayers. I was so glad to see your input on Roy. And now, I have finally met him, thanks to you and this forum. Thanks Bob Lee for your hard work in this area. Arthur J. Smith was one of the most talented steel guitar builders I have ever met. A.J. is not with us anymore either, but his legacy lives on in his work. I assisted him in building my first D-12 steel. (Late sixties and early seventies). There were many tuning chart books published by then and they were some help. But I kept hearing chords somewhere in the back of my head that were just not available. Saw one 12 string chart of Buddy E's that had a low F on the bottom of his C6. I put that on my bottom neck and then had the notes F,C & F for strings ten, eleven and twelve. My first string was A. After many tuning charts on paper etc over the next few years, I thought that if I could remove the ninth string (D) on my E9 tuning, install the tenth string (B) in the ninth string position and then pull it to the D note with the same lever that lowered my high D# to D, I would still have the seventh note in the same group and then it would "get our of the way" when you did not want the seventh chord structure. Next step was to have a G# note installed as my first string on the E9 so I would have the sixth sound on top of the B6 tuning when the Eb lok was engaged. (This G# was there for my bottom neck sixth chord structure-even though the now fourth string G# was there also. I did not want to have to reach down in the run up to get the sixth sound). Can't teach an old dog new tricks sort of thing. I was then pleasantly surprised with the ninths, elevenths and thirteenths that showed up in the E9 tuning with this G# on top as string one. Then I had an extra E and A note (first fret-C6) in the high end of the chord structure. All the pedals and levers worked exactly the same in both tunings and there was no re-learning required in your previously learned grips, groups, etc. I now had C6 on the first fret and that really suited me more than in the open position. Plus most of the old C6 changes now worked in the E tuning and allowed more chords in either tuning. And with the extra B and G# notes in the lower chordal structure, I just added additional pulls to the first and second pedals. Pedal one pulls three Bs to G# and pedal two pulls three G#s to A. So everything that is happening in the top groups is now happening at the same time in the lower register with the D note out of the way. But when you want the D for the seventh, you just pull it in and it is in the exact same place as the old ninth string. This note becomes the tenth string B note when you release the lever. Sierra and Felix James built my first "universal" guitar. Worked fine. They did a good job for me. Sorry this is so long, but I am so proud of this honor Fred and the forum has given to me. I can not ever say who was first with whatever, it only matters that evolution happens and we all benefit from this. My respect for all the steel players knows no bounds and I am grateful to be a small part of our history. Thanks Fred. Hope to see you soon.. And thanks to all you wonderful folks who have submitted input to this forum. See you soon too, Roy. Bill Stafford |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
posted 24 November 2003 05:22 AM
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I too have heard much of Mr.Staffords unique style of playing. I missed the PSGA show back in the 1990's due His comments were.I have never seen such a class person such as this with a personality few have,and his playing was absolutly wonderful. Thanks for this thread.You do Bill Stafford Thank you Fred. You do all of us proud. edited spelling error. [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 24 November 2003 at 05:35 AM.] |
john buffington Member From: Owasso Ok USA |
posted 24 November 2003 06:28 AM
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I have the good fortune to have Bills' CD and still to this day, each time I listen to it, I hear something new. This man IMHO is one of the most under-rated players for his technique. The style may not be "conventional" in some peoples ears, but then again, that is where is it such a fresh approach. My opinion only! John Buffington VP Okla. Steel Guitar Assoc. |
Ernest Cawby Member From: Lake City, Florida, USA |
posted 24 November 2003 09:10 AM
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Fred I had this one , just like I did the one you did on Roy, about 15 lines down, but I got here to late to post early. I met Bill at Dothan Show this year and loved his playing. Smooth as SILK. Very fine gentleman a pleasure to meet. ernie |
Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
posted 24 November 2003 08:14 PM
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Well Earnest, you're just gonna' have to start gittin' up earlier...It's becoming kinda' hard to set these up because everyone knows everyone here. What a family. Thanks for the post....A new one in a couple of weeks...and what a Forum, huh? Thankee b0b!! FRED ------------------ |
Al Marcus Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA |
posted 24 November 2003 09:14 PM
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Fred-Thanks for giving old "Mr. Smooth" the recognition that he so richly deserves. I see Bill every spring at LT.Zinn's HOF Show in Grand Rapids. I always look forward to that. He is a very knowledgable musician and his playing using his special tuning on the Excel is Superb. A great guy and I hope to see him again next April in Grand Rapids......al ------------------ |
John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 02 December 2003 04:18 PM
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An Article in The Mississippi Gulf Coast Sun Herald about Bill Stafford quote: [This message was edited by John Floyd on 03 December 2003 at 04:39 AM.] |
Buck Grantham Member From: Denham Springs, LA. USA |
posted 03 December 2003 02:47 PM
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Well, we all know what a super player Bill is but he is a super nice person also. That's a hard combination to beat. |
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