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Herb Steiner
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From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX

posted 16 January 2004 04:06 PM     profile     
Going through the mountains of steel guitar historical data I seem to accumulate, a forumite who's "been around" sent me a document on old Fender letterhead entitled
"CURLEY CHALKER Fender 1000 Tuning." This was before he went to 10-string guitars and the E9th.

Most of us know that on the 1000, Curly played a C6 tuning going from F (low) to E (high).

Easy enough. But before he played the E9 tuning, what was his second neck tuned to, and what were the pedal changes?

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Doug Seymour
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From: Jamestown NY USA

posted 16 January 2004 04:32 PM     profile     
I'm very interested in knowing the answer to this one, but I don't go back that far. (As far as my knowlege, I mean) I can remember Bobbe writing excitedly to me about Curley's playing when Bobbe was down that way......
maybe early 60s?? Always been a fan of Chalker's stuff! but can't say I knowingly ever heard him play another tuning???? (other than E9th) Don't keep us in suspense, Herb! What was it?
Paul Graupp
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From: Macon Ga USA

posted 17 January 2004 05:37 AM     profile     
Doug: Frank Crawley, a long long time friend of Bobbe's, lives here in Macon, Ga. He has told me lots of stories about Bobbe when they were in the USAF; how Bobbe would hitchike to some distant city to hear and watch Curly playing. I'd bet he knows what this tuning is...

Regards, Paul

Paul Graupp
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From: Macon Ga USA

posted 20 January 2004 04:18 PM     profile     
Bobbe ??? Herb ??? Anyone out there......

Regards, Paul

John Bechtel
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From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 20 January 2004 09:40 PM     profile     
That might have been another secret, like his Verticals were for a long time! I caught him in a weak-moment one evening and he told me what they did, which I had on my 1st. Franklin in '80.

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Herb Steiner
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From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX

posted 20 January 2004 11:53 PM     profile     
Okay, the envelope please... (muted drum roll in background)...

Curly's *other* tuning was...

F13!


Open P1 P2
F_________+G
D_________+Eb
C_____+D
A_____+Bb
G
Eb
A
F

And for an added bonus, here's the C6 tuning...

Open P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 P9 P10
E__________________________+F________-D
C_______________________________-B___-B___-B
A______+B__+B_____________________________-G#
G__________-F#___+G#__-F#_________________-F#
E__________________________-Eb
C
A______+B
F________________-E___+F#_________________+F#


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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 20 January 2004 at 11:54 PM.]

Rich Sullivan
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From: Newport, NH 03773

posted 21 January 2004 03:00 AM     profile     
Very interesting, Herb. That F13 (open, no pedals) is the same as Leon's and Noel's E13 neck, only raised a half-step. Any ideas why? Do you think he liked the higher sound, or just the fact that an F tuning complements a C tuning positionally?
Larry Bell
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From: Englewood, Florida

posted 21 January 2004 09:18 AM     profile     
Curly played a lot of jazz with a lot of horn players. I would imagine that he played F13 because it's a horn key.

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