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Roy Ayres
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From: Starke, Florida, USA

posted 14 June 2004 03:58 PM     profile     
What defines a “Class Act”???

It has been my experience over the past 60 years or so that the top-notch, world-renowned, professional steelers (the “Greats”) have given us many examples of what is meant by a “Class Act” when, in numerous cases, they have stopped for a couple of minutes to help beginners and “unknowns” – or to be nice to their fans. It seems that those who have truly reached the level of greatness are the most humble. I cite as examples a few of the top-notch steel guitarists I have had the pleasure and honor to cross paths with at some point in my life: Alvino Rey; Joaquin Murphey; Noel Boggs; Leon McAuliff; Bobby Koefer; Buddy Emmons; Bill Stafford; DeWitt Scott; Billy Robinson; Jerry Byrd; Roy Wiggins; Jody Carver; Pete Kirby; Joe Wright; John Hughey; Doug Jernigan; Lynn Owsley; Mike Sweeney; Walter Stettner; Herb Remington; Herb Steiner. (I know that I must have left out a number of Greats I have met that my clouded old hard drive didn’t retrieve, and for that I apologize.) The ones I mentioned above are some that I have personally seen “stoop” to help or be congenial to someone “below” them. A couple of recent threads on the Forum where Buddy Emmons has responded to questions by the younger set are actually what triggered this post regarding “Class Acts.” Some other specific examples I can cite are John Hughey who I recently saw get down on the floor at a steel guitar show to get the model number off of some of his equipment for a fan, Bill Stafford who treated me like a long lost friend the first time I met him when he didn’t know me from Adam at that time, Alvino Rey who many years ago when I was just a green kid invited me out to the club where his big band was playing as his guest and got me a table next to the bandstand, Noel Boggs who looked me up and called me on the phone years after I had first met him, Joaquin Murphey who showed me his tunings and some of his licks back in the 40’s when I was totally unknown and everyone had told me he wouldn’t reveal his “secret tunings” – and I could go on and on with examples. Just keep your eyes open and watch: when you see a steeler shun some fan or look down upon some novice steeler, you can bet your big bippy he is not one of the true “Class acts” displaying a humble attitude that, in my opinion, is a prerequisite to achieving “Greatness” as a steel guitarist.

Roy Ayres
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[This message was edited by Roy Ayres on 14 June 2004 at 04:02 PM.]

Sidney Malone
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From: Buna, TX

posted 14 June 2004 05:08 PM     profile     
Great Post Roy!! It reminds me of the first time I met PeeWee Whitewing and Reece Anderson.

I was about 2 years down the wrong road of learning steel guitar and a friend of mine (Doug Childress) knew PeeWee and introduced me to him one night at an opry show in Kirbyville, Tx. I didn't know anything about PeeWee, I just thought after hearing him he was a very good player. When I talked to him about learning steel he told me to contact Reece and that he could get me on the right road. PeeWee seemed to be just like any other regular guy and I had no idea of his history until months later.

After hearing PeeWee play I figured anyone he reccommended would be good enough for me. So I called Reece in a few days, again not knowing anything of Reece's history either. Reece came across as we all know him, just like a regular guy and very understanding of my downfalls in learning to play. He never once tried to sell himself or gave me any idea of "who" he was.

I did end up going to Reece's for lessons and after 3 days of lessons I had learned more than I had ever imagined but still had no idea of "who" he was!! All I knew was he was a great person and teacher. I didn't even know how well he played because he did very little playing while teaching.

It was weeks and months later only after telling different ones who I had taken lessons from that I found out who Reece Anderson really was.

In a way I'm glad I didn't know of him before I called him, because if I had known of his accomplishments I probably would have never bothered someone like that with my steel playing problems. Thinking of course that he would never have time for a beginner like me. That thought of course could not have been further from the truth.

I have found since then that steel players in general are some of the most humble musicians I've ever ran across!! It seems like the higher up you get on the talent chain the more humble they are.

I still don't think of Reece or PeeWee as top shelf pro players simply because of how I first met each one of them. I just think of them as friends of mine. Then when I think about their accomplishments I just thank God for friendships with such great people!!

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Fessy S-12U, Future MSA Millennium S-12U, Stereo Steel


John Pelz
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From: Maineville, Ohio, USA

posted 14 June 2004 07:59 PM     profile     
Not to put you on the spot, Roy, but I respectfully need to point out that you missed somebody on your list: you! You are a truly fine player yourself, and you've been so generous with your time, helping a beginner (me) with lots of great advice, via e-mail, which I appreciate very much. I know that this isn't why you started this thread, Roy, but when I read this thread, I had to add my 2¢ worth: you, too, are a "class act"!
~~~~ edited 'cause I messed up the first time & had half of this message underlined ~~~~

[This message was edited by John Pelz on 14 June 2004 at 08:00 PM.]

Dennis Lobdell
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From: Freeport,Tx,USA

posted 14 June 2004 11:04 PM     profile     
Jody Camron
Bill Stafford
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From: Gulfport,Ms. USA

posted 15 June 2004 04:53 AM     profile     
And Roy Ayers truly "tops" this list.
Thanks for the kind words Roy and it is the greatest pleasure and priviledge for me to have been included on your list. Hope your back problem is eased soon. Anxious to hear you play again.
Your friend,
Bill Stafford
Blake Hawkins
Member

From: Land O'Lakes, Florida

posted 15 June 2004 05:53 AM     profile     
Roy, Bill was correct to include you in your own list. I certainly agree. You treated me like an old friend when we first met and ever since.
Another name to add to the list is Don Helms.
When I was a 12 year old kid, I went to a show presented by "Hadacol." Don and the Drifting Cowboys were part of the show.
He took the time to explain his guitar to me and answer my questions. That was in 1946 or 47 (I think) and I have remembered his kindness ever since.
Blake
Bob Hickish
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From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA

posted 15 June 2004 06:13 AM     profile     
Roy
This is a grate post ! I think this Forum is about new Steelers ! Young & old . There are ! and going to be , What you would call Grate Steelers ! I wish we could all be that , but its not to be . The thing that comes to mind is Fellow in Sweden that has only been playing Steel for 3 years and he shared his talent with us with his "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" I'm sure he will be a contender some day soon . But it is the list of players that you give that has inspired all of us and its the new students that need the inspiration and a little push ! the pat on the back ! I think we all know that the Steel don't give up its beauty with anyone playing it - it takes dedication and a talent that not all poses ! But its something that gets in you blood and becomes a love of a lifetime .
Leslie Ehrlich
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From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

posted 15 June 2004 03:50 PM     profile     
To innovate, not imitate.
Mike Sweeney
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From: Nashville,TN,USA

posted 15 June 2004 05:15 PM     profile     
Roy, words can't express how humble I feel to be included in your list of greats! You're certainly on mine! I too have some great moments when one of the "Big Boys" have taken time out to answer a question or show me a lick or explain something they've done. Along with those you mentioned, I'd have to include Lloyd Green and Curley Chalker on my list. I hope I can return the favor to some of my students or some of the other players I meet when I'm working. Thanks again for including me, I'm truly honored.

Mike

Donny Hinson
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From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 15 June 2004 08:39 PM     profile     
Humility and ability don't always come in the same package, nor do most people seem to care if it does. For every one of us that admires humbleness, there's two who appreciate cockiness.
Doug Ferguson
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From: Burnet, Texas, USA

posted 29 June 2004 11:58 AM     profile     
I recently visited the MSA web site (I'm an MSA Classic owner) and saw Reece Anderson's contact info and sent him an email, telling him my "life story" playing the steel and congratulating him on the new MSA and just pretty much saying thanks, and asking about training materials. I got the warmest and nicest reply from him (I didn't expect he had the time to even read my email) and words of encouragement. I felt like I had made a friend for life.
I once met Bert Rivera at a gig he was playing in Central Texas and he was the nicest guy you could ever imagine. On a break, he came over to my table to meet my wife and chat with me about steel playing. He even envited me to his house to jam with him. (I regret I never took him up on it) Earlier this year I saw his cd being advertised on a web site and there was a link to email him. I did, asking him about his new rig and what new effects he might be using. My email program had automatically placed the "signature" at the bottom of the text with my contact information, phone number etc. The next day at the office, the girls paged me and said Bert Rivera is on the phone for you! I nearly dropped on the floor. He remembered meeting me at that gig and just treated me like I was his only friend.
Two CLASS ACTS in my book!
Charles Curtis
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From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA

posted 29 June 2004 02:40 PM     profile     
I would like to mention my friend and mentor Jay Dee Maness. I don't think there is a better player with better touch or feel particularly with the E-9 tuning (hey, he can play the heck out of the C-6th also). I have seen him do some amazing speed picking with just his index and middle finger. I think that he is the best all round' man I've ever known; and I've never seen him angry or use foul language. Thanks Jay Dee.
Drew Howard
Member

From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.

posted 16 December 2004 02:29 PM     profile     
I should mention Larry Bell, my idea of a class act. Larry spent hours with me when I was just a steel guitar pup, all without charge. He dug up records and tapes to play for me ("listen to THIS!"), loaned me old ISGC programs, and in general instilled in me his enthusiasm for the instrument.

Drew

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Fessenden D-10 8+8 / Magnatone S-8 (E13)


Donny Hinson
Member

From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 16 December 2004 03:39 PM     profile     
Like most occupations, there's all kinds of personalities out there. To me, he's someone who treats a "nobody" as if he were a "name" player. He'll give a few minutes' of his time to help guide any fellow steeler. There's lots of "class act" players.

There's also a few who come across as "terribly unconcerned", and not really involved with their fans, unless they can sell them something!

James Morehead
Member

From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA

posted 17 December 2004 04:30 AM     profile     
I am a newbie that just logged 2 years studying steel, December 15. I have not met many steel players, but I will say David Alexander, who lives a few miles from me and is always willing to talk shop, and help newbies the best he can. He has inspired me greatly.
Ricky Davis is also a huge influence to me. Ricky is ALWAYS there to answer the most amateur questions that pop up, or the "trade secrets" of steel guitardom, or anything about how Shobud/Marlen mechanics work or history, ect.
There are many greats that will never get recognition that need it. In my opinion, they are the pickers who are devoting their time and energy to running their local steel guitar clubs to provide a great opportunity for newbies to have a place to play, as well as a place to meet accomplished players. They know who they are. AND how about b0b, who provided this forum for us all??? My hats off to them all.
Bob Strum
Member

From: Seneca, SC

posted 18 December 2004 07:18 AM     profile     
Where class shows, it's you Roy. Thanks for signing my original 45 record and sleeve of "Slowpoke". It is a collectors dream for guys like me. Sincerely, Bob
Craig A Davidson
Member

From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

posted 18 December 2004 08:34 AM     profile     
Blake i would like to second that on Don Helms. A few years back he took the time to sit and talk to me after a soundcheck. We must have talked two hours just him and me. The ballroom he was playing was empty and he was on stage noodling. I asked him about his guitar and the conversation grew. He told me old Hank war stories, and about things he played. One of the best in my book. It is not every day you can talk to one of your heroes.
Douglas Berry
Member

From: Rochester, New York, USA

posted 18 December 2004 10:05 PM     profile     
Herby Wallace was nice enough to have lunch with me and answer my stupid questions in Ohio,also Doug Jernigan is a fine man, and Ernie Hagar, when I was a kid in Reno,Nevada...I used to sneak into the casino in Sparks when I was 17 to hear him play.Hmm, Jim Cohen too and many others.
Paul King
Member

From: Gainesville, Texas, USA

posted 19 December 2004 06:31 AM     profile     
I will say Jr. Knight has stopped and answered some questions for me. I was on the fence between a wood finish or a formica finish and asked Jr. Knight for his opinion. I have also been able to chat with a couple of times and he was the first major influence I had in wanting to play pedal steel.

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