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Lee Baucum Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier |
posted 09 October 2004 07:21 PM
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Have you ever seen so many steel guitars on that stage at one time? Robert Randolph and his buds tore 'em up. Did you see the audience? Lots of energy! Was that a stand-up, non-pedal Sho-Bud? ------------------ |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 10 October 2004 06:12 AM
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Lee, I forgot it  Will they rerun it?Theresa |
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Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
posted 10 October 2004 06:20 AM
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Theresa--most certainly but it's a local PBS schedule thing so you'll have to check yours. Sometimes there's another airing during the week or else you'll have to wait for the season's schedule to end and then they'll rerun the whole season. Got mine on tape and hope that I actually set it right and didn't tape an hour of Spice Channel. |
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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 10 October 2004 06:29 AM
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You can see where he got his style from after watching last nights show. Several guests that played non pedal and one very cool old Sho-Bud single neck non pedal I've never seen before. The audience ate it up period. |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 10 October 2004 06:32 AM
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Thanks Jon!  I just got an email about RR playing in Nashville Oct.20th at "The Uptown Mix". I'll have to check into that for sure! Theresa |
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Russ Young Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 07:01 AM
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Theresa -- You can go here to check your local/regional listings. I missed it ... |
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Dave Grothusen Member From: Scott City, Ks |
posted 10 October 2004 07:09 AM
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I am sorry that I am not as enthused about RR as some of you. It was a great showcase for steel but ya know I used to make alot of those same kinds of sounds being silly on the guitar. As long I you stayed in the right key anything worked. Granted those guys can inprovise. To me it was just noise for the most parg As for the audiance. Leon Rousch, in his book, stated that Austin City Limits plyed the audiance with so much but free beer they could get into anything. |
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John Lacey Member From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada |
posted 10 October 2004 07:21 AM
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Happened to catch it on Sat. morning at around 2 am. No RR but John Fogarty was great. Unless I'm gigging, I'm usually in bed by then. |
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Jerry Clardy Member From: El Paso, Texas, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 07:48 AM
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I wasn't that impressed with the steels but that bass player was really great! |
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Herman Visser Member From: Rohnert Park, California, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 09:19 AM
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Well gugs I hope we dont start something here, BUT I watched last night show too and was not inpressed or enthused.It simply isnt my style, just to much unwanted noise.I am glad that someone is out there putting the steel guitar out there and up front like RR is. I hope this will bring more young people to the steel.I do wish RR the very best and take nothing away from his success, he truly looks like he is enjoying himself. Times and style much change in order to keep the Steel Guitar in the spot light. Thats my 2 1/2cents. Thanks |
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Lee Baucum Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier |
posted 10 October 2004 09:39 AM
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Dave wrote:
quote: I suppose that's the reason most of the audience was on their feet, cheering, clapping, and, in general, groovin' to the music. Of course, beer never gets the audience/dancers "into" the music at a country gig. ------------------ |
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Steven Black Member From: Gahanna, Ohio, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 01:16 PM
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Hey Guys, If you turned on your TV and watched Robert Randolph, and I am refering to those who claim they were not impressed with his style of playing, why did you continue to watch the show? I am a country player and I enjoy watching others perform with other styles and my ears told me and my eyes they were working hard and performing tricky style of licks, a lot of those I would not be able to do that well, my hats off for Robert Randolph. |
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Dave Grothusen Member From: Scott City, Ks |
posted 10 October 2004 02:10 PM
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I said I did'nt care for the music. The show was great. Very interesting at least. Ya know we get stereotyped as not interesting to watch. Too serious. RR was intertaining. |
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Herman Visser Member From: Rohnert Park, California, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 02:43 PM
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Steve:what your sayig has nothing to with this. The reason I keep watching was Ill give any player the resspect he deserves by watching thier whole show.Im not saying he`s no good. There is alot of music I dont like, but I watch and learn.Iam with Dave on this, Sorry I just dont care for the style he plays in and I wish him only the best THATS ALL! |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 10 October 2004 03:33 PM
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Dadblamit! I can't believe I forgot to watch that show. Too busy with grandkids I guess. I wonder if they'll rerun it? Rick |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 04:13 PM
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Rick, as I mentioned in the other thread on this subject, in the DFW area it will be on KERA channel 13 this coming Thursday, 10/14 at 10 PM. Set your VCR now, before you forget. |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 10 October 2004 04:58 PM
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I wonder what the opinions would be if he included a couple down home country shuffles in his concert. I happen to like him. ------------------ |
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Garry Vanderlinde Member From: Garden Grove, California, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 05:24 PM
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Rats!!! They didn't show it in my area. Can anyone make me a copy so I can see it? |
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Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA |
posted 10 October 2004 05:52 PM
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Thanks Jim |
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Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 06:02 PM
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What channel do you guys get Austin city limits on? does it come on CMT? Terry ------------------ |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 10 October 2004 06:29 PM
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Terry, you really should read all the sub-forums and/or do a search before asking so many questions. Austin City Limits has been on PBS for 30 years. From Crowbear's first post on this subject a few days ago here: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum4/HTML/007134.html go to the link in his first post and enter your zip code for the channel and time it shows in your area. |
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James Pennebaker Member From: Mt. Juliet, TN |
posted 10 October 2004 06:56 PM
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I don't mean to dispute what Leon Rausch says. He's a fellow Ft. Worthian and old friend of mine whom I've worked with many times as a fiddler (and even on steel a time or two). I've also played the ACL show several times and while they do serve beer, the Austin audiences there are pretty hip. They're used to hearing great bands and are not easily "duped" by too much of the suds. I don't think Leon really meant to say that you can get away with murder on ACL. I think what he was really trying to say was that it's real easy to have a great time and a great show on ACL. JP [This message was edited by James Pennebaker on 10 October 2004 at 07:00 PM.] |
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Tommy Alexander Member From: Friendswood, Texas 77546 |
posted 11 October 2004 04:49 AM
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The saturday night Austin City limits show was done some time back , maybe three or four years ago; actually it has been on several times before. The blue single neck was a twelve string Fessenden, not a Sho-Bud.Robert Randolph is a hand full of pickin'and in a class all his own. The last I heard he use's his own tuning set-up. That was my last report; don't trust me on that!! ------------------ |
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HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y. |
posted 11 October 2004 05:24 AM
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quote: One of the most profound statements that I have ever read in my 6+ years of belonging to this forum. This bit of common sense will make a person a better player and musician. Not to mention more well rounded with a broader scope. |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 11 October 2004 06:13 AM
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quote:This is Robert's second Austin City Limits, and it was recorded well within the last year. He's only had the blue Fessy for lessa than a year. And it's a 13 string Fessy, not a 12 string. Other than that, you're right. |
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Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
posted 11 October 2004 06:18 AM
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LARRY COLE Member From: COLUMBUS, OHIO, USA |
posted 11 October 2004 06:29 AM
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I wonder if some people would be happier if R.R. was up there doing rap? It wouldn't be because of a little jealousy would it? No, couldn't be on here. ------------------ |
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James Quackenbush Member From: Pomona, New York, USA |
posted 11 October 2004 08:09 AM
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Easy does it guys ....It's OK not to like the style of music that R.R. plays....Everybody enjoys different styles of music in every day life.... As musicians, we should broaden our outlook on ALL types of music , if for nothing else than to learn something from them... I don't own a lot of symphony music, but I have listenned to enough of it to help me with arrangeing in my music ....I have heard enough "rap" to help with my timeing , and my drum arrangements.... I have also seen some of the lick's that R.R. has that 95% of the Pedal Steel population could not touch ! All I'm saying is ...You don't have to like it, but at least learn from it !!..... It's not bad press either to have someone so popular playing a pedal steel for our industry !...It can only HELP promote the pedal steel .. Just one man's opinion ....Jim |
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Lee Baucum Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier |
posted 11 October 2004 10:16 AM
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One of the pickers (Aubrey Ghent) was playing a beautiful, blonde, 10-string, non-pedal steel. It was on 3 legs. The camera operator zoomed in on the Sho-Bud logo several times. The logo was right in the middle of the front apron of the guitar. Here is a photo on the PBS site. The guitar on the far right is the one I'm talking about. ------------------ [This message was edited by Lee Baucum on 11 October 2004 at 10:20 AM.] |
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Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
posted 11 October 2004 10:46 AM
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After attending a 5 hour western swing benefit jam for a friend of mine that's going to have some back surgery,I got home and turned on ACL and watched RR and his friends play some awesome music,I felt guilty kicking back in my lazy-boy and watching all of that hi energy playing,The next time I'm gonna jump thru the T.V. screen and join them.Robert introduced one gentleman as "Ted" but never gave his last name?I was knocked out with all of the different styles,and touchs these wonderful players had. |
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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 11 October 2004 12:36 PM
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I done a search but didn't find just what his tuning and pedal set-up is. I've heard he's into the Sacred Steel tuning at least to some extent and would like to know it exactly. I plan to make his appearance here in Nashville next week and if possible get to talk with him about it. If I can, I'll post it here for those of us open minded enough to be interested. I don't play this kind of stuff either (not yet) but I did see some things in his performance that made me rewind the tape and look again. He's not country (not yet) but he has something we can all learn from including the hard core country players. Of course not being country never held Clapton, Beck, Pass, and a whole lot of other notable guitarists back either. Some of the best rock stuff I've heard has come from lap steel with a fuzz and a tube amp. Not for everyone here obviously but then we have different religions. You don't have to go to the church but if you don't know what it's about, don't knock it. I think RR is just a little intimidating for some. Could it be the single line stuff he was playing or maybe just that big, loud enthusiastic crowd on TV being played around the world? |
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Bob Stone Member From: Gainesville, FL, USA |
posted 12 October 2004 07:25 AM
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I missed the show, but... Robert Randolph's tuning and pedal set-up is very close to Chuck Campbell's, which is on the Carter Web site. Ghent has a 10-string Sho Bud non-pedal. I think he bought it from Bobbe Seymour. I'm not sure how many strings he has on it. He's played 6-string Dobro tuning all his life. By the way, Dan Tyack gave Calvin Cooke that vintage Fender DeLuxe 8. A beautiful gesture. |
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Jerry Clardy Member From: El Paso, Texas, USA |
posted 12 October 2004 09:30 AM
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I didn't say you guys weren't impressed with this "show." I said I wasn't. To expand: For the most part this was just a jam session that lasted a long time. It was boring and about 90% jam. Compared to shows like Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Johnson, John Fogerty, and even Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson, and other greats who have performed on ACL, these guys didn't do it for me. These sounds have been coming from steel guitars for many years on the rock and blues scene. Evidently some haven't been acquainted with them. The steel has a powerful pickup that activates effects and distortions really well. I stick with my original evaluation of not being that impressed with the steels. The bass player was the glue for me. With a player like this it's really hard to miss as a lead player in that type of jam session. This is MY evaluation. You are entitled to yours. |
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Dan Tyack Member From: Seattle, WA USA |
posted 12 October 2004 12:21 PM
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Roberts copedent is essentially the same as Chuck's, with the addition of a low G# string. You know, some of this discussion reminds me of conversations I have had with non-country players over the years. FOr some jazz or funk players, if you play them something like a Ray Price album they will run screaming from the room. They can't get behind the presentation and listen to the music going on. Some guys I play with love it all. For instance, Skerik, the super hot avant guard jazz sax player, loves western swing. BUt you can't tell somebody to appreciate any sort of music, you just have to feel it yourself. ------------------ |
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Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth |
posted 12 October 2004 12:49 PM
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quote: sure you can tell 'em... you just can't make 'em appreciate... sometimes one can grow into an appreciation of a music, repeated exposure is a key to this...
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Greg Simmons Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
posted 12 October 2004 12:51 PM
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Dustin Rigsby Member From: Columbus, Ohio |
posted 12 October 2004 02:49 PM
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Dan, If I was looking correctly,Ted Beard was playing a Sho-Bud s-10 3x4. I am curious as to what his codependant is. I remember a while back when this idea was kicked around briefly on the forum. ------------------ |
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Dustin Rigsby Member From: Columbus, Ohio |
posted 12 October 2004 02:50 PM
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Dan, If I was looking correctly,Ted Beard was playing a Sho-Bud s-10 3x4. I am curious as to what his codependant is. I remember a while back when this idea was kicked around briefly on the forum. ------------------ |
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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 12 October 2004 03:19 PM
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How right you are Dan and Dave. I grew up playing the 60's r/r then went to Motown/Muscle Shoals stuff, old swing jazz from duos to quintets, played some show bands, hard rock in the mid 70's then went back to jazz/swing/bebop in the late 70's until I took up PSG playing country in the 80's and now am working my way back to old jazz standards/swing on pedal steel. I'm still playing a country gig and love it but I've got a taste for most anything played well. RR's stuff is cool stuff to learn and expand with the styles I've played. Dan, |
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA |
posted 13 October 2004 04:09 PM
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I just watched the show. it was a lot of fun, but it did get kind of boring. The best stuff RR did was some of his "comping" chords, almost like funk rhythm guitar playing. His leads were effective, but you've heard those licks from lead guitarists for years. His playing sounded out of tune much of the time. And it's all blues based. I wish they would have played a ballad. Even "When the Saints Go Marching In" ended up being a one chord vamp. The guy who seemed to have the most originality, was Aubrey Ghent. Some of his playing sounded exactly like a female gospel singer. I'm gonna have to get his CD. The third guy had an annoying echoplex swamping everything he did. Ted Beard had some good ideas. For some odd reason, his tone was tiny and thin. Kind of like what i used to sound like playing bottleneck on a Strat. |
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