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Drew Howard
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From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.

posted 01 April 2005 11:16 AM     profile     
http://bobdylan.com/performances/

Click on "You Win Again".

Dylan's voice is shot! But the steel is awesome.

So who's the picker?

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Mark Ardito
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From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 01 April 2005 11:20 AM     profile     
Drew,

On Dylan's 2004 tour he had Larry Campbell on pedal steel.

His current lineup for his touring band has BR5-49 member Don Herron on Pedal Steel and Fiddle.

Cheers!
Mark

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Jim Phelps
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From: just out of Mexico City

posted 01 April 2005 11:25 AM     profile     
Nice steel, but holy cow! What happened to Dylan's voice??? Was he just hoarse or does he always sound like that now? With a voice like that, at least there will be lots of steel solos. He makes Joe Cocker sound like Pavarotti by comparison.
Pete Finney
Member

From: Nashville, Tn.

posted 01 April 2005 11:26 AM     profile     
Are you sure Don is playing PEDAL steel with Dylan? He's always been a no-pedal guy with BR549, though I know he bought a pedal steel to fool around with...
Mark Ardito
Member

From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 01 April 2005 11:34 AM     profile     
Pete - Not sure of Don Herron is playing pedal, but I will let you know soon....I am going to see Dylan and Haggard in Chicago on Sunday night. Dylan is touring with another fiddle player, Elana Fremerman, from Hot Club of Cowtown. I will post a review of the show when I get back!

Dylans Voice - Yeah, it has seen better days. I have seen Dylan the past couple times he has come through Chicago and he is not singing too hot these days. In fact, he doesn't even play guitar anymore. He just sits at a piano and blows harp.

Mark


Cheers!
Mark


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[This message was edited by Mark Ardito on 01 April 2005 at 11:35 AM.]

Bart Maloney
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From: Houston, Texas (from Tomball, TX)

posted 01 April 2005 11:58 AM     profile     
Click on "Pancho and Lefty," the steel is really nice.

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Mark Lind-Hanson
Member

From: San Francisco, California, USA

posted 01 April 2005 01:03 PM     profile     
Yes, I just saw Dylan here in Oakland, and Don IS playing Pedal steel with him. He switches over to lapsteel for stuff like "Highway 61 Revisited", but he really is an excllent PS'er, and there's another thread on this forum "Dylan with pedal steel & twin fiddles" with more detail on Don Herron. He seems to have it together enough to have made it the primary instrument he uses with this band.
Tony Palmer
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From: Lincoln, RI USA

posted 01 April 2005 01:52 PM     profile     
Wow! Actually I'm digging his voice on You Win Again...sort of like Tom Waits singing country.
It sounds kinda painful......sort of in a good way....oh well, you gotta be a Dylan fan!
Stephan Franck
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From: La Crescenta, California, USA

posted 01 April 2005 03:38 PM     profile     
Didn't Bucky Baxter, formerly one of Steve Earle's Dukes, used to play steel with Dylan, a few years back?

I though BB was great on Exit 0. Does anyone know what he's doing now?

Stephan

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John Pelz
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From: Maineville, Ohio, USA

posted 01 April 2005 04:50 PM     profile     
quote:
Didn't Bucky Baxter, formerly one of Steve Earle's Dukes, used to play steel with Dylan, a few years back?

Yup. Bucky played steel on Dylan's "Time Out Of Mind" (along w/Cindy Cashdollar) and "MTV Live" (mid-1990s). I'm not sure if he played on any of Dylan's other stuff, though.

And yup, Dylan's voice is shot. A singer Dylan ain't. (I say that as a fan...) But if you want to hear one of the most innovative, creative, (insert plaudit here) song-writers of the rock generation, Dylan's the guy, even nowadays.

Like Tony says above, though, Dylan's current frog-croak of a voice is kind of painful to hear -- but in a good way. (And yes -- you definitely gotta be a fan!) Listen to "Lonesome Day Blues" or "Sugar Baby" off Zimmy's latest studio-album -- and tell me that his shot-through voice doesn't fit those tunes perfectly!

Well, that's just my opinion, at least -- your mileage may vary.

Stephan Franck
Member

From: La Crescenta, California, USA

posted 01 April 2005 06:25 PM     profile     
I would call it "soulful" on Pancho & Lefty.
For my money, it's a little too real on You Win Again... It's kinda like having Hank Williams actually die on you... Where does the art stop and the tragedy begin? Ah--whatever...

Just my opinion

So where's Bucky, by the way???

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[This message was edited by Stephan Franck on 01 April 2005 at 06:26 PM.]

Mark Ardito
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From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 02 April 2005 04:50 AM     profile     
A couple of years ago I saw a singer/songwritter guy named Ryan Adams in Chicago and Bucky Baxter was playing steel for him. That was probably 2002 or 2003.

Cheers!
Mark

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JW Day
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From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA

posted 02 April 2005 09:19 AM     profile     
what a pity,some one needs to do bob a favor and inform him it's time to move on to something else
Dave Mudgett
Member

From: Central Pennsylvania, USA

posted 02 April 2005 11:37 PM     profile     
I saw Dylan a couple of years ago with Larry Campbell playing steel. He sounded great, Dylan's music is a great vehicle for steel, IMO. I love playing steel on Dylan tunes. I think Bob has been a great promoter of steel in a largely steel-less music culture for a long time. He seems to genuinely love country and blues music. Hear, hear.

To answer the question about what Bucky Baxter's doing these days, he founded Three Trees Music, a studio in Nashville. Some friends just finished recording an album there.

On Dylan's voice, Ole' Bob hardly needs anyone's approval. I suppose it's an acquired taste, but then so is old wine or cheese. I acquired the taste for all 3 a long time ago.

Stephan Franck
Member

From: La Crescenta, California, USA

posted 03 April 2005 09:30 AM     profile     
I had checked the Three Tree Studio's website, but the site didn't seem finished or up to date (last update was from 2003), so I was wondering if it was still running...
Larry Bell
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From: Englewood, Florida

posted 04 April 2005 10:53 AM     profile     
quote:
what a pity,some one needs to do bob a favor and inform him it's time to move on to something else

Sorry, but that's kinda like asking Picasso, "Yeah, but can't you paint something that LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING?"

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Mark Ardito
Member

From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 04 April 2005 11:18 AM     profile     
All,

Well I went to the Dylan show in Chicago last night.

This guy, Amos Lee, opened the show up...pretty good young guy. Then Merle took the stage. They put on a great show and Norm Hamlet was awesome! Dylan was up next. He played for around 90 minutes. I am a huge Dylan fan and hate to say this, but his voice is just awful. The first 3-4 songs were just un-intelligible. His voice is so gravely that you can't understand one word he says. He stood at his keyboard and barely played it. He did play a ton of material from the Love/Theft and Time out of Mind albums, but did go back and play some classics (A Hard Rain's gonna fall, I shall be released, You Ain't Going No Where, Hwy 61 Revisited, The Times They are a changing).

Don Herron did play Pedal, Non-pedal, Mando and Banjo. He did have 2 fiddles on stage with him, but did not pick them up. From where I was sitting I couldn't tell what kind of guitars he had, but it was a D-10 Pedal and a D-8 non-pedal. It also looked like he was playing through 2 Matchless amps.

This band line-up is a HUGE change to the Dylan tours of the past that I have seen. They are a loud country-rock band now! Other than Dylan's voice being totally shot, it was a pretty good show.

Cheers!
Mark

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Donny Hinson
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From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 07 April 2005 08:43 AM     profile     
quote:
Wow! Actually I'm digging his voice...

Well, when you're done digging...bury it.

Peter Jackson
Member

From: Midcoast Maine, USA

posted 07 April 2005 11:18 AM     profile     
I'm not sure,but didn't Bucky Baxter tour w/ Dylan for the Rolling Thunder Revue"?
Pete Finney
Member

From: Nashville, Tn.

posted 07 April 2005 11:25 AM     profile     
No, Bucky joined Dylan long after "The Rolling Thunder Review". I think it was a guy named David Mansfield on that tour; don't know much about him but he was a multi-instrumentalist who played pedal steel on some tunes. There's a "Live 75" CD of that tour but I don't have a copy handy to check the musicians info...
John Pelz
Member

From: Maineville, Ohio, USA

posted 07 April 2005 02:53 PM     profile     
quote:
I think it was a guy named David Mansfield on that tour. . .There's a "Live 75" CD of that tour but I don't have a copy handy to check the musicians info...

Ahem -- if I may -- ahem, ahem --
Yep, you're exactly right, Pete -- David Mansfield gets steel-credit on "Live 75." According to the liner notes, Mansfield is credited on steel guitar, mandolin, violin and dobro...

Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 07 April 2005 09:32 PM     profile     
quote:
Don Herron did play Pedal, Non-pedal, Mando and Banjo. He did have 2 fiddles on stage with him, but did not pick them up. From where I was sitting I couldn't tell what kind of guitars he had, but it was a D-10 Pedal and a D-8 non-pedal.

Donny is using an '70's Emmons D-10 and a '54 Gibson consolette D-8.
I also just sold him a '59 Fender 400, I don't know if he will use it on stage or not.

db
Member

From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA

posted 08 April 2005 07:58 PM     profile     
I worked with Larry during his formative years. . . .
(As a sound man) With The John Herald Band.
He was a great fiddle player & PSG player!
Then I saw him in 2002 with B.D. . . .
And he was resting on his laurels !
I am curious as to what he is up to now!?

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John Wall
Member

From: TN, US

posted 08 April 2005 10:37 PM     profile     
Larry Campbell
Craig Stock
Member

From: Westfield, NJ USA

posted 28 April 2005 05:29 PM     profile     

I saw Bucky Baxter with Dylan at Madison Sq. Garden back around 2001, with Joni Mitchell and Dave Alvin, the same year he played with Steve Forbert and then saw him with Ryan Adams at SXSW in Austin. I also got a solo Album from Bucky that was real good.

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Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 28 April 2005 06:49 PM     profile     
Well I sure hope ol' Bob gets some throat spray or hot lemon & honey before May 26. He's coming to the Ft Lauderdale Stadium along with Willie Nelson - and I just got 2 tickets.

But what the heck, as long as there's some good steel playing in there somewhere . .

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