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Michael Breid
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From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA

posted 25 February 2006 11:37 AM     profile     
I was telling my wife about a gig I had booked, and she said, "Where did the word "gig" come from"? Come to think of it I had no idea. It's always been a "gig" to me, and I don't know where the term came from. I remember as a teenager hearing other musicians talk about a gig and thought at first they were going after frogs. Then I realized a "gig" was job. Does anyone out there know how the word "gig" came to mean a playing job? Thanks-
Pat Kelly
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From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia

posted 25 February 2006 11:50 AM     profile     
"Engagement" ?
Tucker Jackson
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From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 25 February 2006 12:16 PM     profile     
My Webster's show 4 entries for "gig." But the one that pertains to "a gathering of musicians" is marked as "Slang," and the origin is listed as "?".

The Online Etymology Dictionary shows the first verified usage in 1915. But it also says the word is "of uncertain origin.".
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gig

[This message was edited by Tucker Jackson on 25 February 2006 at 12:21 PM.]

Stu Schulman
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From: anchorage,alaska

posted 25 February 2006 12:24 PM     profile     
I think that it came from a mispelling of Gag.
Eric West
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From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 25 February 2006 01:05 PM     profile     
I've always thought it as in "Frog Hunting". Frogs being of course, slang or "Greenbacks" of course being slang for "Money".

I think, as opposed to "Jamming", "Rehearsing", "Busking", "Auditioning", or "Begging".

EJL

Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 25 February 2006 03:20 PM     profile     
"Gig" (n.) A musical job or engagement. Derived from the French, gigue, a lively dance. Musicians used to go play (for) a "gigue". However, as in present times, musicians' talent was undervalued and they were paid 'nary a sou for their contributions to society, so the only way they could eat frogs legs with the French aristocracy, was to "gig" the frogs themselves. The two words finally enmeshed leading to rampant etymological speculation amongst steel guitar players.

[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 25 February 2006 at 03:20 PM.]

Steve Hitsman
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From: Waterloo, IL

posted 25 February 2006 03:30 PM     profile     
Kaka del toro.
Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 25 February 2006 03:41 PM     profile     
Michael Barone
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From: Downingtown, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 25 February 2006 04:37 PM     profile     
In 1969, I knew a "gig" to be a uniform infraction. If you were found during inspection in ranks that your belt buckle was not aligned with your shirt buttons, for example, you were told you had a gig and were not in proper uniform. Not a good thing. It was noted. If you were inspected and had 3 or more gigs identified, you got extra duty. Any Army Vets ever heard this before?

Mike

Al Marcus
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From: Cedar Springs,MI USA

posted 25 February 2006 06:00 PM     profile     
Yes...al

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George Mc Lellan
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From: Duluth, MN USA

posted 25 February 2006 06:36 PM     profile     
Yes Michael, I remember a number of gigs got you a demerit and a number of demerits got you in deep doo~doo. (It's been over 40 years so I don't remember the exact numbers)

Geo

Michael Breid
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From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA

posted 26 February 2006 05:53 AM     profile     
Good people I appreciate all the help. Quite an educational bonanza this Steel Forum. I knew I could count on you. Thanks heaps.

Michael in the Ozarks.

Donna Dodd
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From: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA

posted 26 February 2006 06:15 AM     profile     
A gig is something your husband has when family members come for the weekend! I KNOW you guys knew that!!!!

Ray Minich
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From: Limestone, New York, USA

posted 26 February 2006 12:14 PM     profile     
I had heard the term "gigging" used to refer to "frogging" before, now I see where it came from. Etymology not to be confused with Entymology

[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 26 February 2006 at 12:15 PM.]

Duane Reese
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From: Salt Lake County, Utah

posted 26 February 2006 12:54 PM     profile     
When I was a kid and I used to hear people say "play a gig" I thought it meant a prank or a stunt (so when I'd go toilet paper the neigbor's house or something... It was just that night's gig)
Bobby Lee
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From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 26 February 2006 06:43 PM     profile     
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-gig1.htm :
quote:
The term is usually taken to be of American origin, but the interesting thing is that the first two citations in the Oxford English Dictionary are from a London publication, Melody Maker, in 1926 and 1927. So the word in this sense has long been known in Britain.
Gig is yet another of those words for which researchers can give no firm origin, and what follows is largely supposition, following the leads given by Dr Jonathan Lighter in the Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang.

The oldest sense of gig was of something that whirled or turned (as in whirligig); much later it was applied to a fast two-wheeled carriage, presumably because its big wheels went around quickly, and later to a fast ship’s boat. There are many other senses.

From the 1840s in the US, Mr Lighter shows it also applied to a form of betting, involving a set of three or five numbers selected by the bettor. From his examples, it seems the winning numbers were drawn from a rotating device, called a wheel, presumably like a lottery or tombola drum, which must be the link to the name. By the beginning of the twentieth century, Mr Lighter suggests the word had begun to be applied more generally to a business, state of affairs, or an undertaking or event. This may have been influenced by a similar sense of gag that had come into being by the 1890s.

However, the great majority of Mr Lighter’s examples in this sense date from 1957 or later, with only one from 1907 to suggest that it pre-dated the application of gig to an engagement to perform live music. This is why dictionaries are cautious about accepting this sequence of development of the word, even though it seems to be plausible.

These days, gig can have a wide range of senses, including a fairly new one that refers to any short-term paying commission or job; it need not be associated with music or performance, but it does preclude permanent full-time employment.

Matthew Prouty
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From: São Paulo, Brazil

posted 27 February 2006 08:04 AM     profile     
I love these. I often get asked these since I live in a country where English is a second language. I was asked about the word "Fire" as in "You're Fired!" the other day and this is right up that alley. Here is what I found on gig:

Gig
Gig is an interesting word with a variety of etymologically unrelated senses.

This brings us to the most common sense, that of a musician's engagement or job. The musical sense dates to 1926 and first arose as jazz slang in the US. But the origin is not in music. The use of gig to mean a non-musical job or occupation dates to 1908, and the sense of a business affair or event is a year older than that. The origin is unknown, but it may come from the slang term gag. This dates to 1890 and means business method, practice, or behavior. All these sense are American slang usages.

These last senses may be from, or be influenced by, an obsolete sense of gig. This sense of gig is a type of bet in a numbers game. It dates to 1847 and is an arbitrary use of the sense of gig as a carriage (a horse is another type of bet).

Matt

CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 27 February 2006 08:38 AM     profile     
Jimbeaux's got it right

it's that French dance
(froglegs included)
the Gaellic have the jig too

the subject came up here a few years back
(i could'nt find it w: search)

who's got a book out there about Musikal slang ?
the only one i got is " Really the blues" by Mezz
gig is'nt in it


Gene Jones
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From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 27 February 2006 09:25 AM     profile     
In my experience from the 1940's I never heard the term "gig" until I was playing with musicians from the "big band & jazz" era in the late 1940's. I think that was about the time that "gig" evolved, first to western-swing, and then to all venues.

I don't know where jazz musicians of that era originally picked up the term "gig", but when they started playing with western-swing bands the use expanded by everyone who wanted to be viewed as "hip".

....but, who knows for sure!
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Michael Johnstone
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From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

posted 27 February 2006 09:33 AM     profile     
Out here in L.A. I've often heard cats describe a gaggle of gigs as "extreme giggage"
les green
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From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA

posted 27 February 2006 09:40 AM     profile     
Here in Missouri we have a "gigging season" from Oct. 15 thru Jan. 15.
Samuel E. White
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From: Greeneville TN.

posted 27 February 2006 10:15 AM     profile     
Yes Michale you are right. I do beleave the word GIG Started in the Service.I truely remember all those Drills and Gaurd Duty's I use to Stand in back in 1956 to 1962.I was always the lucky one that was the neatest in my out fitand got no Gigs.The Army taught you to have respect and to be neat.I like getting GiGs today with my Steel.
Sam White
David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 27 February 2006 10:56 AM     profile     
My guess is that Jim Cohen's kaka del toro is pretty close to the truth, and it came from the French dance (gigue) through the early New Orleans jazz musicians.

[This message was edited by David Doggett on 27 February 2006 at 10:58 AM.]

Brett Day
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From: Greer, SC, USA

posted 28 February 2006 01:13 AM     profile     
To me, a gig is the same thing as a performance or show. I consider the steel conventions and shows I play "gigs". Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10
Bill Myrick
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From: Pea Ridge, Ar.

posted 28 February 2006 04:15 AM     profile     
What's the slang term for hip boots ? If I stick around in this post, I goota find some -
David L. Donald
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From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 28 February 2006 04:35 AM     profile     
I once had a gig
with a fat dancing pig,
He would dance a fine jig
on the bow of a brig
He was smoking a cig
In a grey powedered wig.

Took a gig to the gigue
made from trees and not twigs
We zigged from my digs
and set the mast rigs

Now I don't give a fig
if the pigs in a wig,
long's I get paid big
for playing my gigue

With this jigging cig pig in a wig
on a Commodores brig.

PS.
a gig is also the ships captains personal ship to shore transport.
'The captains gig."

Pat Kelly
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From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia

posted 28 February 2006 12:06 PM     profile     
Sounds like its an abbreviation for Thingamigig
Al Vescovo
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From: Van Nuys, CA, USA

posted 07 March 2006 04:44 PM     profile     
I was doing the Academy of Country Music in Los Angeles a few years ago and it was the Judds first time on the show. Naomi came up to me and said she really liked Steel Guitar. She said her Steel player in Nashville was really a wild guy "He goes out and plays jigs on the weekend" I loved it.
Michael Garnett
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From: Fort Worth, TX

posted 08 March 2006 12:46 AM     profile     
Gig 'Em, Aggies.

It felt appropriate.

-MG

Gene Jones
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From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 08 March 2006 04:04 AM     profile     
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[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 08 March 2006 at 04:04 AM.]

Charlie McDonald
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From: Lubbock, Texas, USA

posted 08 March 2006 04:35 AM     profile     
How 'bout them frog giggers, ain't they Aggies?
Goin' around giggin' all them froggies....
Ernie Renn
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From: Brainerd, Minnesota USA

posted 08 March 2006 06:28 AM     profile     
Oh, yeah... Well, then what about that actor, Gig Young?

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Michael Garnett
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From: Fort Worth, TX

posted 08 March 2006 06:46 AM     profile     
Charlie-

The Aggies ain't giggin Froggies very regular anymore now that the SWC is no more.

Can't believe nobody said "Flounder Gigging" yet. I couldn't be the only one. Where's all you Coastal Texas Boys?

MG

Chuck Hall
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From: Bonaire, Georga, USA

posted 11 March 2006 07:33 AM     profile     
I've played a few gag's in my time as well.

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John Bechtel
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From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 11 March 2006 08:31 PM     profile     
It's been so many years since I’ve played one, I’m no longer sure what a ‘gig’ is¡ But, I think it’s the first 3-letters that goes along with ‘---gle’!

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Jim Bob Sedgwick
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From: Clinton, Missouri USA

posted 11 March 2006 11:49 PM     profile     
A gig is a springboard to super stardom. Yeah right !!!!

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