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Ron Sodos Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA |
posted 13 April 2006 03:36 PM
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I was listenting to my new XM radio toiday and I heard an old Ernest Tubb recording and when the steel solo came on ernest said "and Buddy". Well the playing was so sweet I am assuming this was the Big E. Am I correct? |
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Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 13 April 2006 03:37 PM
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Is this a serious question??? The serious answer is YES!! |
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Steve Hitsman Member From: Waterloo, IL |
posted 13 April 2006 03:39 PM
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Ah, ah, ah! Could be Charleton. Both Buddies played with Ernest. |
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Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
posted 13 April 2006 03:40 PM
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Check out "Half a Mind" by ET Some of Buddy's best work with Tubb. Trust me! |
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Roger Crawford Member From: Locust Grove, GA USA |
posted 13 April 2006 06:17 PM
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Don Helms was with ET, also. |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 13 April 2006 06:59 PM
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Dickie Harris, Buddy Emmons, Jimmy Day, Bobby Garrett, Bud Charleton, Don Helms, Billy Robinson, Speedy West, Lynn Owsley, and Johnny Cox,are just a few of the greats that worked with ET either in person or on record. Quite a list I would say. |
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John Lockney Member From: New Market, Maryland, USA |
posted 13 April 2006 08:31 PM
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Was it "Waltz Across Texas" ? He says "Ah Buddy now" in that one and its Buddy Charleton. (Corrected 4/15 from "Ah Buddy" to "Ah Buddy now" after hearing it again) [This message was edited by John Lockney on 15 April 2006 at 05:48 PM.] |
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Mike Kowalik Member From: San Antonio,Tx.,USA |
posted 13 April 2006 10:34 PM
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Ron....I think the song you may have heard is called "Careless Darlin".....they play it often on Hanks Place....I heard it on my way to work this afternoon.....and right before the break as the steel starts to come in ET says "Buddy Emmons". |
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Ray Montee Member From: Portland, OR, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 04:53 AM
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Jerry Byrd was with ET in about 1948, was featured in the film of ET's life....called 'Hollywood Barn Dance'. Was the steel guitarist on Tubb's "Seaman's Blues", "Waitin' for the Train" and a number of other ET hits of the time. |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 14 April 2006 06:01 AM
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Ray I forgot all about Jerry Byrd. I should have my bar and picks taken away and sit in the corner on my pack-a-seat for that. Waltz Across Texas is Bud Charleton with Leon playing flattop guitar on the ride. |
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Dave Clark Member From: Tennessee, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 06:09 AM
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Does anyone know the name of a steel player from New Orleans that played with ET in 1956. This guy had been with ET for a short time and they split. Ernest came to New Orleans for a show and they talked about the steeler getting back with the Troubadors. The call came within a couple of weeks and the steeler from New Orleans rejoined the band. He was around 40 years old at the time, had a Fender double neck-and had drilled a couple of holes thru the body to run some cables. Several of the steelers were doing this to bend one or two strings. Jerry Byrd mentioned, in his book, a lot of info about the band bouncing around the country in an old bus. ET's brother drove the bus! Dave Clark |
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Ron Kirby Member From: Nashville ,Tennessee USA |
posted 14 April 2006 06:17 AM
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There is one song where Ernest says (and Buddy) instead of (Ah Buddy) But dang I cant remember the Title !!! not much help !! |
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Sam Lewis Member From: Conway, Arkansas, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 09:23 AM
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If you can get your hands on the LP "Midnight Jamoree", recorded at ET record shop, you will hear Buddy play some great steel, in particular, Rose City Chimes. Sam Lewis, PedalMaster D-10, MSA Classic D-10, Twin Steel Kings and some other stuff that covers misteaks. |
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Ron Sodos Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 10:17 AM
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The song i heard he said "and Buddy" not "ah Buddy". I distinctly heard him say it. Now I can't remember which song it was for the life of me. I'll keep listening and hope to hear it again. By the way I just recently got XM Radio and I am in country music heaven. There are 2 "what they call" country music stations here in Albuquerque that I cannot listen to at all. The station c alled "the Range" that used to be herre played older country. It was cancelled due to lack of interest. If I hear Van Zant or Big and Rich or Bon Jovi one more time I am gonna get sick and throw up...O well thank God for satellite radio......  [This message was edited by Ron Sodos on 14 April 2006 at 10:18 AM.] |
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Charles Curtis Member From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 12:25 PM
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I had the pleasure of seeing a live performance of Buddy E playing with ET (remember Leon R being in the band also). |
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William J Maynard Member From: DePere, Wisconsin, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 02:55 PM
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Buddy played both Lead Guitar and Pedal Steel Guitar as a Texas Troubador. Buddy and Bobby Garrett played twin steel for E.T. also. Buddy was the first Pedal Steel Guitar intro on "Half a Mind" recording of E.T. I have a recorded interview session with Buddy, Hall Rugg on Eddie Stubbs Monday Night Show on WSM. This is where all of the above I mentioned came out during that interview. |
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Ron Kirby Member From: Nashville ,Tennessee USA |
posted 14 April 2006 03:24 PM
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Ron Sodos, Question ?? still remains ,, is there a Ernest Tubb recorded song, where Ernest says,,(And Buddy) (Instead of Ah buddy) ????? |
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Paul Norman Member From: North Carolina, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 05:00 PM
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In Waltz across Texas Ernest says at the steel break Oh Buddy Now. He does not say which Buddy. It sounds like it could be either one of them. In Half a mind Ernest dont call any names. This is " The Best of Ernest Tubb" The Millennium Collection. |
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Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A. |
posted 14 April 2006 05:26 PM
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Until Buddy steps in...  Buddy played with Tubb for about 3 to 3 1/2 years, from '60 to sometime in '63, and then went with Ray Price. |
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bill mitchell Member From: chattanooga, tn usa |
posted 14 April 2006 06:42 PM
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ET re-recorded "Half a Mind" with George Jones and Buddy E....possibly in the 70's. Just before Buddy takes off on that great ride, ET says..."Buddy Emmons now". Then, half way through he says "Remember this, Buddy?"...and adds "you couldn't stay away could you?"...an ad lib apparently timed to break-up Mr. E. I'd like to know the story behind that one! |
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les green Member From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA |
posted 14 April 2006 07:40 PM
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I had the honor of seeing ET many, many times when he had Charleton and Rhodes. This is the way it went most of the time. If Leon took the first part of the break it was "Ah Leon" then when Charleton took the second half it was "and Buddy". I've heard "ah Buddy, ah Buddy now, here's Buddy Charleton", and lots of other ones. I missed seeing Emmons with ET. My loss! ET thought a lot of the Troubadours, that's why he always had a top-notch group. Bill Mitchell.........I heard the story behind that remark once "remember this Buddy?" but I can't recall what it was. It had something to do with Emmons coming back from California I think. [This message was edited by les green on 14 April 2006 at 07:45 PM.] |
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Brett Day Member From: Greer, SC, USA |
posted 14 April 2006 11:35 PM
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Buddy Emmons did work for Ernest Tubb for awhile, and so did Buddy Charleton, so, yeah, both Buddys worked with Ernest Tubb. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10 |
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les green Member From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA |
posted 15 April 2006 04:26 PM
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Try "Little Ol' Band of Gold" for an "and Buddy". Emmons I think. |
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Ron Kirby Member From: Nashville ,Tennessee USA |
posted 15 April 2006 04:55 PM
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Thanks Les, for clearing up the Question?? ,, I to thought ET, said (and Buddy), on some recordings. |
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Lynn Owsley Member From: Hendersonville, Tn. USA |
posted 16 April 2006 11:33 AM
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ET would say many things to introduce a solo and to call attention to a musician,you are all correct in a way. Buddy Emmons,according to ET, would sometimes hold his breath during a solo,on some old live recordings you can hear ET clearly saying,"Ahh Buddy Emmons now",then quietly,"breathe in....breathe out" It was always a contest to see if you could really make your stage partners just lose it with laughter...and ET was a master of this...ET would at times make it a free for all by saying" Ahh Somebody Play Now!" Buddy Emmons was the player on "Half A Mind" originally.Buddy Charleton was the player on "Waltz Across Texas"originally. Buddy Emmons was with ET regularly from 1957 to 1962, there were other times he would appear for short spans... "Could'nt stay away,could you Buddy?" [This message was edited by Lynn Owsley on 16 April 2006 at 11:43 AM.] |
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David Wren Member From: Placerville, California, USA |
posted 19 April 2006 11:17 AM
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I have the Midnight Jamboree album (BE) and a couple of Troubador instrumental albums (BC), to me the "smoothness" on slow E9 songs by BE really stands out, not to say anything diminishing about BC, a truly great player as well. Just the way it sounds to my set of ears. ------------------ |
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Bill Ford Member From: Graniteville SC Aiken |
posted 12 June 2006 04:24 PM
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William, I read somewhere that "Half a Mind" was the first time the A/B pedal split was used, maybe Smiley, or BE will comment on this, whereby BE gets credit for the G#/A pull on the 6th string used at the end of the break, among other things. I think BE played on "Little Old Band Of Gold" also. Bill |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 12 June 2006 05:30 PM
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ET's "Midnight Jamboree" album was my introduction to the playing of Buddy Emmons. For years I thought "Rose City Chimes" was a Buddy Emmons tune! That's a great album by any standard. A real slice of history there. ------------------ [This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 12 June 2006 at 05:31 PM.] |
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Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
posted 12 June 2006 05:40 PM
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b0b, That entire album is a studio album. Buddy told me that it was produced to sound like a live album....when in fact, it was recorded in the studio using some live "emcee" footage woven in between (and sometimes over) studio cuts.
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Steve Richter Member From: Menasha, WI USA |
posted 12 June 2006 07:37 PM
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So which Buddy is it on Drivin Nails In My Coffin? I always assumed it was Emmons til I found out Charleton played with him too. |
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James Lombard Member From: Wisconsin, USA |
posted 12 June 2006 10:13 PM
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Which drivin' nails in my coffin? On the on tour album, it's Buddy Charleton. In the liner notes from the steel guitar record club's "Almost to Tulsa," I believe buddy C. says he sarted with ET in '61. |
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Steve Richter Member From: Menasha, WI USA |
posted 13 June 2006 03:11 AM
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The studio version. |
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Pete Finney Member From: Nashville, Tn. |
posted 13 June 2006 03:33 AM
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All the official Decca supposed "Live" albums by Ernest and/or the Troubadours were cut in the studio with overdubbed applause. The one from 1965 at the "Spanish Castle Ballroom" that came out much later is really live of course, but Charleton's so buried in the mix that it's barely worth it... |
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Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN |
posted 13 June 2006 07:56 AM
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quote: And I always tought Ernest was singing with Buddy Emmons.. Db ------------------ |
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Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
posted 13 June 2006 09:25 AM
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I was at the ET Record shop the night the Troubadors were discussing going into the studio to do the 'Live from Caine's Ballroom' album. To digress for one moment, but still on the subject of ET, he recorded a song that started with the lyrics, "I will miss you when you go, much more than you'll ever know ..." If anyone can identify this song I'd be grateful - I've been trying to get all the lyrics for years .... |
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Tom Harris Member From: Mississippi, USA |
posted 13 June 2006 09:50 AM
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Bobby Garrett played some with E T,,he and B E was with him at the same time,,remember E T saying they played so much alike that he had to turn around to see who was playing,,for a while,B E did some on lead Guitar after Billy Byard left,,thats while Bobby Garrett was with him,not sure how long Bobby stayed with E T..... Tom Harris |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 13 June 2006 09:57 AM
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Mr. Blackwood, I can't remember the name of the song but Leon Rhodes sings it on the "ET Presents The Texas Troubadours" album. I'll see if I can dig it out tonight at home. That was one of my 3 or 4 favorite albums when I was about 5 years old in the 1964! (So my parents tell me!!) ------------------ |
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Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
posted 13 June 2006 02:02 PM
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Thanks Bill! |
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Jim Vogan Member From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874 |
posted 13 June 2006 06:57 PM
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I remember Leon singing a song that I think was called "What am I Bid". ------------------ |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 13 June 2006 08:01 PM
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Barry: The name of the song is "I Will Miss You When You Go" The writer credits are Ernest Tubb and Baby Stewart. Bill C. |
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