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David Higginbotham Member From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA |
posted 07 July 2004 05:42 PM
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The last 2 times I have listed items for sale I have received email such as the following. It may or may not have come from the same person. However, the one thing in common is the broken english and some type of special arraingement wanting to be made concerning the sale. I have posted this in hopes of relaying this to everyone else conducting business here on the forum. Take care and be careful! Dave Letter: Dear Seller, [This message was edited by David Higginbotham on 07 July 2004 at 05:43 PM.] |
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Dave Zirbel Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA |
posted 07 July 2004 05:48 PM
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I recieved the same email except the items listed were changed to accommodate my post. ? DZ [This message was edited by Dave Zirbel on 07 July 2004 at 05:49 PM.] |
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Bill Simmons Member From: Keller, Texas, USA |
posted 07 July 2004 06:09 PM
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It's probably a scam like I've been getting the last few weeks...one guy was a real scream in that he was going to have a guy here in the states send me a check for $3000 and I was to cash it and then sent the balance to him and his shipper would come and pick up the instruments!! I was born at night -- but not last night!! |
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Ken Fox Member From: Ray City, GA USA |
posted 07 July 2004 06:21 PM
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I have received it as well. It is most definitely a scam!!! |
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Vann Cranford Member From: Ayden, North Carolina, USA 28513-7004 |
posted 07 July 2004 11:49 PM
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Hey guys, In reference to the scam comments on the Forum, I have also been contacted by someone claiming to be from Australia. This person wanted to buy some of my equipment and wanted me to cash a $3000.00 cashiers check, take out the money for the items that I am selling, and send him or her the remaining money. Also, this person was supposed to arrange for the items to be picked up by a friend. This person stopped contacting me about my items as soon as I stated that I would accept only a US Postal money order for the items. Being a retired state law officer, I have run into this scam before. The trick is for you to cash the counterfeit bank check(which can be printed on computer with the right know how by the criminal) and send him or her the balance of money. Then, the check bounces and someone, mainly the bank, is looking to you to make the check good,and the criminal has made money from a trusting victim. The NC S.B.I. and the AG's office have also recently put out warnings in NC about this scam. Just thought I would add my knowledge in hopes of preventing a good person from becoming another victim of a criminal. Vann Cranford, Retired NC Intensive Probation/Parole Officer [This message was edited by Vann Cranford on 07 July 2004 at 11:52 PM.] |
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forrest klott Member From: Grand Rapids Mi USA |
posted 08 July 2004 04:54 AM
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Hey guys, This scam is being worked on two other forums that I belong to, one is a steelhead fishing site and the other one is the Telecaster Discussion Page. Same deals on the other two, I've been wondering how long it was going to take to make it to this one. DON'T DO IT!!! Skeeter |
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Dan Chroninger Member From: Sparta, Wisconson, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 05:43 AM
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I Got the same exact E-mail Today same name most likely the conterfiet casher check scam |
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Gary Dunn Member From: Walnut Cove, NC, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 06:03 AM
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Forrest, What is the web address for the Telecaster Discussion Page? Thanks. Gary |
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Ken Fox Member From: Ray City, GA USA |
posted 08 July 2004 06:36 AM
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My reply to them was Postal money order or PayPal and I do my own shipping (no shipping outside the US). That stops their emails dead in their tracks! [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 08 July 2004 at 06:36 AM.] |
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Sonny Miller Member From: Lino Lakes, Minnesota, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 06:49 AM
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I received the same type of scheme also and notified B0B, and he agreed this was a scheme.Here is the final rip off letters so you will see how they do it. As follows is the exact copys of the emails. Dear Seller, Sonny Miller |
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Matt Steindl Member From: New Orleans, LA, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 07:25 AM
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I got the same emails on items listed. Initially I asked them why they would want to ship a $75 rack case all the way to Africa. Then to get them to stop bothering me, I simply told them that I only sell to other forum members. |
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Scott Appleton Member From: Half Moon Bay, California, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 09:30 AM
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I think its a scam. I got the same hit on my post yesterday. I told them to get real or get lost. ------------------ |
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forrest klott Member From: Grand Rapids Mi USA |
posted 08 July 2004 09:44 AM
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Hi Gary, www.tdpri.com That stands for Telecaster Discussion Page Re-Issue. I guess this site was down for a while because some of the members couldn't play nice together, so when they came back out with it they tagged it as "re-issued". Kinda neat, it fits right in with Fender's line up. Hope that helps, Skeet |
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b0b Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA |
posted 08 July 2004 05:11 PM
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There is a announcement about this scam at the top of all of the Classified Ads index pages. ------------------ |
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Bob Leaman unregistered |
posted 08 July 2004 07:22 PM
I got this same email some time ago. I reported the sender and ISP to the FCC, Yahoo.com webmaster, and spam cops. Whoever this is wanted send money via Western Union. I contacted Western Union. They told me that when someone wishes to send money, from anywhere in the world, all they need to know is the recipient's name and residing city. When the money arrives, the local agent will find the recipient and notify that money has arrived. The local Western Union agent will cut a cheque for the amount as soon as proper identification is presented. If the transfer is fraudulent, Western Union stands the loss. If this is unbelievable, call your local Western Union and confirm what I said here. |
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Gary Preston Member From: Columbus, Ohio, USA |
posted 09 July 2004 02:16 PM
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Whew-ee !!! i feel so much better ,now that i hear that others have gotten this silly e-mail . There should be some way to track these people . They have too much time on their hands . G.P. |
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Jim Ives Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
posted 09 July 2004 05:32 PM
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Yup, it's a scam allright! I got contacted by e-mail from some yutz that wrote in very poor English who wanted to buy my Sho-Bud ($2500 price) by sending me $5000 and I would pay his "well shipper that will come for the pick-up". I replied to him and never heard back. Don't these people know that steel players are too saavy to get duped? -Jim ------------------ |
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Bob Smith Member From: Allentown, New Jersey, USA |
posted 09 July 2004 06:22 PM
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I just got an email from one of those cretans. It was so stupid , i got a good laugh out of it. bob |
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Ray Minich Member From: Limestone, New York, USA |
posted 09 July 2004 08:48 PM
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There are a lot of web browsing persons in Nigeria with a lot of time on their hands. CBS news did a thing on this (60 Minutes I think) better than a year ago. |
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Hiro Keitora Member From: New York, New York |
posted 12 July 2004 07:31 AM
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Yap. I'm selling my compressors and I did get exact mail like above came to me. I didn't like "His Shipper" coming to me, so I ignored it. |
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Del Mullen Member From: Flagler Co. USA |
posted 14 July 2004 11:46 AM
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We just had the same scam happen to us. He wanted the SD-10 we have for sale and said he would have a cashier's check sent to us and we would cash it and western union the remaining balance to him, and deduct an additional $50 for our running around. Not knowing it was a scam until now, but I sent him an email back telling him we would not do such a thing for him. He claims he was from the UK. It just didn't seem right that someone would accually pay us double for a guitar and then want the rest back. If he wants to pay double and let us keep the balance well then, maybe. Mike Mantey |
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
posted 14 July 2004 02:03 PM
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I got one that just seemed to be fishing He was a reverend Dr. and wanted "The itmes you are selling" Yeah WHAT items. Another good way is to say : But until my bank says it's cleared and good at BOTH banks, If it isn't good the cops can go to the receiving address if they want to. Also... gee I will just wire cash to a strangers PO box... |
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Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA |
posted 15 July 2004 11:59 PM
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I have an idea -- how about if everybody who gets an offer from this scammer simply accept his offer. Before it's over, this guy would be out big bucks from spending all that time and postage sending bogus checks over here. Maybe then, he'll learn his lesson and quit bothering us. |
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Wiz Feinberg Moderator From: Flint, Michigan, USA |
posted 16 July 2004 07:40 AM
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My advise regarding all such scams is simply this: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! This is both a security issue, and a criminal activity. These people, although lacking in Netiquet (all caps), and despite poor spelling and bad grammer, are usually members of spam and scam gangs, or organized African crime rackets. They are often criminals in their own country, operating from Internet Cafes. Some of them are very dangerous. This type of activity is so prevalent in Nigeria (2nd or 3rd largest industry), and neighboring countries, that the Nigerian Government enacted a law, known as Penal Code 4-1-9, which is supposed to punish fraudulant activities there. However, not only is very little prosecution of 419ers done, but it is probable that many Nigerian banking and law enforcement officials are involved with these rackets as well, for a kickback, or as ring leaders. People have lost their lives trying to recover money they paid to Nigerian 419 scammers. Do not respond to any scam letters, unless you are in law enforcement, or security. Forumites posting items for sale can add a layer of protection by turning off displaying of their email addresses in their Posts, and ask all interested parties to respond to the Forum. You will be notified whenever somebody replies, if you select that option before submitting your ad, or reply. This is a slight inconvenience, but it will deter the trolls and 419ers. Trolls who respond to ads can have their posts deleted by admins. There are many free email services available which will allow you to create a throwaway address for use to close deals. Please read the announcements posted by the SysAdmin by clicking on the link, above the first line of any Forum, labeled "SCAMMERS trolling the Forum." This will keep you up to date with any developments or best procedures to adher to. Submitted IMHO, by Wiz [This message was edited by Wiz Feinberg on 16 July 2004 at 08:02 AM.] |
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CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
posted 16 July 2004 09:40 AM
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this was posted on "off topic" and worth the look see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3887493.stm |
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Doug Ferguson Member From: Burnet, Texas, USA |
posted 26 July 2004 09:23 AM
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I always send a simple reply to scammers stating that I've copied their email to the FBI, US Customs, and Homeland Security, and cc it to several email addresses that I made up. Of course i get those made up addrs back undeliverable, but who cares. I seem to scare the doodoo out of whoever sent me the original scam email cause they dissappear!  |
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b0b Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA |
posted 26 July 2004 08:13 PM
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You'd get the same (lack of) response if you just deleted the email, Doug. |
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Randy Gilliam Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA |
posted 26 July 2004 08:18 PM
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When They Contact me i will tell them to send the shipper i will introduce him to Mr Smith And Mr Wesson real friendly fellars. |
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David Higginbotham Member From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA |
posted 26 July 2004 08:23 PM
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The more a person corresponds with any type of questionable email, the more info and oppurtunity the other party is able to obtain. To ignore and preferbly delete the message is the best choice of action. Dave |
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KENNY KRUPNICK Member From: Grove City,Ohio |
posted 26 July 2004 11:05 PM
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It's a scam. I had the same idiot send me that e-mail about having a person,or partner come pick up the item,and all the other stupid non-sense to go along with it.  |
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Bobby D. Hunter Member From: USA |
posted 27 July 2004 10:12 AM
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I recommend that you report any emails from obvious scammers, who are using a Yahoo webmail account, to mail-abuse@yahoo-inc.com It is important that either Forward the original email, or copy and paste all of the raw headers in any reports you send to the Yahoo email abuse desk. Without the headers they cannot track to email's point of origin, which is encoded in the header data. If you don't know how to view and extract the headers, Forward the message instead. If the scammer starts using a hotmail, or other free web-based account, lookup their abuse address and forward to them. You can lookup abuse addresses by going to www.dnsstuff.com and typing a Domain name into the input field labeled "Abuse Lookup." If you receive any emails from a scammer that are not sent from a yahoo, hotmail, or other free email service, forward them to me, using the Email link above this post. It might help me track them down directly to their originating mail server. Wizardo |
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