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Toby Rider
Member

From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA

posted 20 October 2004 08:33 PM     profile     
Wow great idea to make a CD of chord drones! I've been using Band-In-a-Box to do the same thing.. A CD is probably easier to take around then a laptop computer :-)
Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 21 October 2004 07:30 AM     profile     
Toby,
The thing that is different about the chord drones I have on the CD is that they are absolutely beatless. I had a computer/composer guy make them. They are in pure JI tuning. That makes it so you can clearly hear beating on every note in a scale. It brings calibrating your ears and hands to a different level.

Bob

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 23 October 2004 06:13 PM     profile     
Here is a picture:

[This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 23 October 2004 at 06:14 PM.]

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 02 November 2004 08:20 AM     profile     
My thanks to all you guys that have ordered the tuning CD. I have been getting a much better response than I expected. My girlfriend is taking care of any sales and shipping stuff for me while I'm on the road. I have plenty of them left if anybody wants to check it out.

Bob

Patrick Carlson
Member

From: Sutton, Nebraska, USA

posted 07 November 2004 05:12 PM     profile     
Sent in Paypal order today,Thanks Bob.

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The Lone Prairie Steeler Pat

Howard Tate
Member

From: Leesville, Louisiana, USA

posted 23 November 2004 01:55 AM     profile     
Got the CDs from Bob, a good guy to do business with. He took time to answer a question by email, and was quite helpful.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://Charmedmusic.com

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 12 December 2004 05:26 PM     profile     
I just made a new batch of CD's if anybody else wants one.
So far the reaction has been great for the practice CD. Thanks so much to all you guys that ordered one.

Bob

Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 12 December 2004 07:18 PM     profile     
I bought one. I listened to it at work. It was really boring!

no steel on it at all...
Willis Vanderberg
Member

From: Bradenton, FL, USA

posted 13 December 2004 03:01 PM     profile     
I bought one quite a while ago. best ten bucks I ever spent. I discovered I was playing just a tad flat all the time.
Great idea just in time for Christmas.

Bud

Samuel E. White
Member

From: Greeneville TN.

posted 17 December 2004 10:33 AM     profile     
Hi Bob I will be sending you a Check out tonight for the Cd.
Thanks Sam White
Samuel E. White
Member

From: Greeneville TN.

posted 17 December 2004 10:34 AM     profile     
Hi Bob I will be sending my check out tonight for the CD
Sam White
Patrick Carlson
Member

From: Sutton, Nebraska, USA

posted 18 December 2004 03:56 PM     profile     
Thanks Bob this CD has really helped me to improve my playing.

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The Lone Prairie Steeler Pat

Ron Frederiksen
Member

From: Van Buren, Arkansas, USA

posted 31 December 2004 02:38 PM     profile     
Hey Bob, Just got the C-D, Thanks It is good and Its going to help my playing. God Bless, Ron
Jeff A. Smith
Member

From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A.

posted 06 January 2005 05:05 PM     profile     
quote:
The thing that is different about the chord drones I have on the CD is that they are absolutely beatless. I had a computer/composer guy make them. They are in pure JI tuning.
Bob,that must be why a lot of the single-note drones and root notes of chords are actually flat or sharp from equal temperament. I just realized that for trhe first time the other night, checking them with my little Korg tuner. This doesn't mean practicing along to these roots has no value, but it might be something to be aware of, if people are thinking they can just visually remember positions for all the keys.

It's still a great tool Bob, thanks again for making it.

Jeff

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 07 January 2005 06:11 AM     profile     
Jeff,
I left everything in pure JI to make sure I don't rely on my vision to play in tune. When I'm playing and the piano is sharp, the string bass player is flat, and the guitars are capoed I still need to find a way to sound in tune and make the singer sound good. I have gotten better at hearing the tonal center of whatever is going on by practicing my listening skills.

If you really want to find your bar in some weird places on the neck use the single note drones as the 3rds or 6ths of whatever scale you are working on. If you can feel comfortable practicing along to a drone as a 6th playing in tune on the bandstand or in the studio will be much less effort.

Its important not to retune your steel to the drones because you will be chasing your tail rather than learning how to adjust the bar to make it sound good.

Thanks for the comments.

Bob

Dave Van Allen
Member

From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth

posted 11 January 2005 07:48 PM     profile     
quote:
left everything in pure JI to make sure I don't rely on my vision to play in tune.


hence the phrase "ear training"

Lawrence Lupkin
Member

From: Brooklyn, New York, USA

posted 19 January 2005 11:35 AM     profile     
I usually rely on the voices in my head to help me stay in tune.

Robert Porri
Member

From: Windsor, Connecticut, USA

posted 22 January 2005 01:47 PM     profile     
Bob,

I sent a snail mail payment today for this.

Thanks, sounds like a great practice aid.

Bob Porri

Bill Thomson
Member

From: Ocean City, Maryland, USA

posted 25 January 2005 01:32 PM     profile     
Bob,
Please send me your Paypal handle. I would like to get one of your CD's. I know I'm playing a couple of cents flat, could use the ear training. Thanks, Bill
Bill Thomson
Member

From: Ocean City, Maryland, USA

posted 25 January 2005 01:53 PM     profile     
Hello Bob,
Tried to make a previous post, and it wouldn't come up.
Anyway, I would like to get one of your CD's.
Please send me your Paypal handle.
I know I'm a few cents flat when I play, could use the ear training. Thanks, Bill

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Lawrence Lupkin
Member

From: Brooklyn, New York, USA

posted 15 February 2005 11:27 AM     profile     
A bump for Bob.
Steve Stallings
Member

From: Bremond, Tx, pop 876, Home of the fighting Bremond Tigers

posted 18 February 2005 08:46 AM     profile     
Bob,
I sent you an email but I haven't gotten a paypal request for payment yet.

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings



Robert Porri
Member

From: Windsor, Connecticut, USA

posted 07 March 2005 09:51 AM     profile     
Bob,
Thankyou for this CD. I've been practicing with it and it is rather absorbing once you get going with it. I can really see where it will help a lot in the development of playing in tune. As well as sustaining single notes and chords, it gives a good backdrop for practicing scales and improvising also. Very useful.

Bob P.

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 19 March 2005 07:37 AM     profile     
Thanks guys for all the orders ! I'm glad so many players have found the CD useful. I had a few classical music teachers get in touch about the CD. It turns out that conservatories are using the same sort of method I bumped into these days.

Bob

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 25 March 2005 07:36 AM     profile     
There was some room left on the CDR's so I added 5 low single note drones tuned to "440".

Bob

Daryl Brooke
Member

From: LI, New York

posted 27 March 2005 10:39 AM     profile     
Hi Bob - Your CD sounds like it can help me a lot. I just mailed you a check. Please send me a CD when you have a chance. Thanks!
Niclas Nilsson
Member

From: Sweden

posted 01 April 2005 12:53 AM     profile     
Bob,

Everything Bob P. said. Great tool!

Many thanks for getting it out to me so quickly.

Niclas

Merle Walther
Member

From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA

posted 06 April 2005 05:18 AM     profile     
Hello Bob
I Would Like To Have, One Of Your CD's...
Here Is My E-Mail Address.... Send Me The
Info, That I Need To Pay You.
mrwalther@ameritech.net
Thanks,....Merle
John Vaughan
Member

From: San Jose, California, USA

posted 12 April 2005 09:03 PM     profile     
I'll add to this just to say that most of us look at the neck when we play and the fret markers are the guide posts for being on pitch. After buying this CD and playing along I realized I've been flat for some time now. I'm pretty attuned to hearing the pitch but one can easily fool one's self into BELIEVING your on pitch simply because it LOOKS like you are, going by the fret markers. Made a world of difference for me in a short time. Many thanks, Bob.
JV
Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 12 April 2005 10:19 PM     profile     
John,
I'm glad its working for you. And thanks all you guys for your orders. As a matter of fact the CD just went "cardboard". If sales continue it should hit plywood (for all you Roadhog fans ) in about 4 more years !
I know that practicing how I listen has been a big help for me. Its nice to know its helping out you guys.

Thanks again, Bob

Oh yea, I still have a plenty left if anybody wants to order one.

basilh
Member

From: United Kingdom

posted 13 April 2005 02:58 AM     profile     
Bob could you send me a PayPal invoice please.. I'm in the UK so price accordingly..

basil@waikiki-islanders.com

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basilh
Member

From: United Kingdom

posted 18 April 2005 05:49 PM     profile     
Arrived today.. excellent aid to intonation.. and who doesn't have a problem now and then in that department ?
Baz

Howard Tate
Member

From: Leesville, Louisiana, USA

posted 19 April 2005 03:43 PM     profile     
I've noticed that if I practice with the cd, the stuff I record is not as pitchy for the next couple of sessions. This thing works.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com


Reggie Duncan
Member

From: Mississippi

posted 31 July 2005 07:10 AM     profile     
Bob.....I would like one of the cds....email me when you can. Thank.
Larry Weaver
Member

From: Asheville, North Carolina, USA

posted 31 July 2005 10:13 AM     profile     
Hi Bob,
Please send the PayPal info along to me as well. Thanks very much!

regards,
LarryW

Jim Sliff
Member

From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 02 August 2005 07:11 AM     profile     
I'd like the Paypal info as well, please. Sounds like a very useful tool.

Jim

Bob Hoffnar
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 09 August 2005 12:07 AM     profile     
I just made a fresh batch of the drone CDs if anybody wants to check them out. Ordering info is at the top of this thread.

Here is one happy customer:

thanks,

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Bob
My Website


Ron Randall
Member

From: Dallas, Texas, USA

posted 09 August 2005 12:52 PM     profile     
Part of my practice time.
Single notes at many octaves.
MAjor and minor triads all over the neck.

Good workout!

Ron


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