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Jack Byrd
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From: Kalamazoo, Michigan

posted 19 July 2003 05:28 PM     profile   send email     edit
I have recorded LaGolondrina twice. The first time it was included in the Album Hi Fi Guitar and the second time about 4-5 years ago with a western swing band. Tom Morrell’s great band out in Dallas. I did it western swing style in a new arrangement and different tuning than the original. I think you guys would find that as equally good or better than the original one. It is on a CD in which I also played Blues Guaranteed and I’m Confessing. The reason I did I’m Confessing on this CD was because I played it all the time over here (Hawaii) and they liked it and Tom had a girl singer, Chris O’Connell, one of the best female singers I ever heard. And when I heard her do some stuff on one of Tom’s other CD’s I told him before I came to do these songs I would like to do one song with Chris singing it, so he wanted to know what song and I told him I’m Confessing. We did it in the key of Db which is a good key for me and I’d be damned if she didn’t sing it in Db. But she did a great job on it and I think many of you would like that too. Those three songs are on the CD “No Peddlers Allowed”. Tom did 2-3 CD’s and did not have any pedal players on them, although they played both pedals and non-pedal- they would go back and forth when they had to play one or the other. The CD with my tunes on it had three other steel players on it. If you are interested in obtaining the CD contact WR Records, P.O. Box 248, Hunt Texas, 78024.

When I was in Detroit, Buddy Emmons was just a young boy learning to play and would write me eight page letters asking all kinds of questions and he learned by himself pretty much and that’s how he learned, keep playing more than anybody else – just continually. I dedicated LaGolondrina to him on this CD. He used to come and hear us when we played various places he would always come and sit down beside me in front and would say play LaGolondrina for me. That was one of Buddy’s favorite songs. I told Tom Morrell lets dedicate this to Buddy Emmons. I don’t know if he ever learned I dedicated it to him because it was one of the tunes I did that was one of his favorites.

Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 19 July 2003 06:14 PM     profile   send email     edit
THANKS once again, Jack Byrd. What took you so long?

Jody Carver, yourself and any number of other
Forumites that are/were in the know, have really made this Forum of b0b's so valuable to those of use that have spent our lives out in the boonies, away from the main stream music that each of us have loved and chased most of our lives.

THANKS once again!

How about another?

Since we've stepped back in time just a little, might you have any "inside" info' on JB's alleged "Doo-Wah" button? Some of the folks here are really intrigued by it. Perhaps you'd be the best authority to share the "rest of the story" with Jerry's many fans.

C Dixon
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From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 19 July 2003 08:36 PM     profile   send email     edit
There is NO song, anywhere on this planet that I love as much as LaGolendrina as Jerry did it on HiFI guitar. I have loved this song like you cannot believe since I first heard it in the 50's. I bought the album because of it.

And now Jerry tells us that it was Buddy Emmons' favorite.

Wow, NOW folks I gotta tell ya, for this dude it truly does NOT get any better than that.

My only two hereos in the entire musical genre' And one thrills me to pieces for over 50 yrs doing my favorite song and now I learn 54 yrs later that my other hero loved it just like I did.

I never cease to wonder about the many blessings My precious Savior gives me. Never a day goes by. Learning this at this late date (and age) makes an old man cry.

May HE richly bless JB, BE, Jack and all of you,

carl

Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 20 July 2003 07:34 PM     profile     edit
Dont Forget "Slippery Elm" another Jerry Classic. oops Am I off topic here?? If
so I'm sorry.But it is another one of Jerry's GREAT tunes.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 20 July 2003 at 07:36 PM.]

Fred Layman
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From: Springfield, Missouri USA

posted 21 July 2003 09:20 PM     profile   send email     edit
My favorite of Jerry's reditions is "Drowsy Waters."
Jim Vogan
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From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874

posted 22 July 2003 04:51 AM     profile   send email     edit
"Drowsy Waters" was the very first record I ever had! It's still one of my favorites!

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Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 23 July 2003 05:54 PM     profile   send email     edit
What about "Estralita".....?
Jeff Strouse
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From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

posted 25 July 2003 09:10 AM     profile   send email     edit
I've heard Hank Snow sing a song entitled "She Wears My Ring", which is the same tune as La Golondrina. It goes like this:

She wears my ring
To show the world that she belongs to me
She wears my ring
To show the world she's mine, eternally
With loving care, I placed it on her finger
To show my love
For all the world to see.


That's all I can remember of the words. Does anyone know what "La Golondrina" actually translates to in English? I've never heard any words to La Golondrina, except for the words that Hank Snow sang to the same melody...

C Dixon
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From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 25 July 2003 09:43 AM     profile   send email     edit
Ok, I may have them backwards; but I believe the following is true:

1. LaPaloma--The Dove

2. LaGolendrina--The Swan

Any Spanish speaking players out there that can straighten this out for us?

carl

Paul Graupp
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From: Macon Ga USA

posted 25 July 2003 10:02 AM     profile   send email     edit
Carl: I can't speak Spanish but I have always heard, from my father who loved classical music, for one, that La Golendrina meant The Swallow. But I would like to know for certain as well. I remember well the swallows who made many, many nests in our barn rafters. It was they who kept the mosquito population under control and they were very beautiful with their dark blue coloration and swift flying patterns.

Regards, Paul

Jeff Strouse
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From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

posted 25 July 2003 07:50 PM     profile   send email     edit
I just remembered I have a Spanish-English dictonary...

After blowing the dust off it, Carl and Paul are both correct...Golondrina translates to "Swallow", and La Paloma is "the Dove."


I wonder if there were ever any original Spanish words to the songs..???

Jim Vogan
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From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874

posted 25 July 2003 08:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
SHE WEARS MY RING


SHE WEARS MY RING TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT SHE BELONGS TO ME
SHE WEARS MY RING TO SHOW THE WORLD SHE'S MINE ETERNALLY
WITH LOVING CARE, I PLACED IT ON HER FINGER
TO SHOW MY LOVE FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE

THIS TINY RING IS A TOKEN OF TENDER EMOTION
AN ENDLESS POOL OF LOVE, THAT'S AS DEEP AS THE OCEAN
SHE SWEARS TO WEAR IT WITH ETERNAL DEVOTION
THAT'S WHY I SING, BECAUSE SHE WEARS MY RING


THIS TINY RING IS A TOKEN OF TENDER EMOTION
AN ENDLESS POOL OF LOVE, THAT'S AS DEEP AS THE OCEAN
SHE SWEARS TO WEAR IT WITH ETERNAL DEVOTION
THAT'S WHY I SING, BECAUSE SHE WEARS MY RING

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Jim Vogan
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[This message was edited by Jim Vogan on 25 July 2003 at 08:30 PM.]

Fernando Fernandez
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From: Cadiz,Spain

posted 26 July 2003 05:53 AM     profile   send email     edit
Yes, La golondrina is "The swallow".

About the spanish lyrics, only I know the lyrics to the Serradell song:

Aben Hamed al partir de Granada
Su corazón destrozado sintió
Y allá en la Vega al perderla de vista
Con débil voz su lamento expresó.

Ay! cual te envidio al mirar
Que te alejas
Ave felíz de dicha y de placer
Mis ecos lleva a la pátria
A donde nunca jamás yo volveré.

A donde irá veloz y fatigada
La golondrina que de aquí se va
O si en el viento se hallará extraviada
Buscando abrigo y no lo encontrará.

Junto a mi lecho le formaré su nido
En donde pueda la estación pasar
Tambien yo estoy en la región perdido
Oh cielo santo y sin poder volar.

Dejé tambien mi patria idolatrada
Esa mansión que me miró nacer
Mi vida es hoy amante y angustiada
Y ya no puedo a mi mansión volver.

Ave querida, amada peregrina
Mi corazón al tuyo estrecharé
Oiré tu canto tierna golondrina
Recordaré mi patria y lloraré.

The first two verses are more unusuals and are eliminated in most part of the versions.Somebody said that it's a bolero or serenata, but I think it's more an habanera ( due to the lyrics).

regards

Paul Graupp
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From: Macon Ga USA

posted 26 July 2003 07:57 AM     profile   send email     edit
Fernando: It's nice to meet you here on the Steel Guitar Forum !! I see you've been around for almost three years now but we need to hear more from nice folks like you overseas. I spent a lot of time overseas with the USAF and I recognize the color and variety other people add to the Forum. Tell us what the steel guitar is doing in Spain and things like that to add character to this site.

Regards, Paul

CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 26 July 2003 11:24 AM     profile   send email     edit
Hola Fernando !
gracias por la cancion
bueno verano
Henry
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From: Europe

posted 02 February 2004 03:50 AM     profile     edit
Next to JERRY BYRD are there more ""LA GOLONDRINA""versions ??

Henry

Jussi Huhtakangas
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From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 02 February 2004 04:39 AM     profile   send email     edit
Buddy Emmons recorded it in the early 60's, though on a pedal steel.
c c johnson
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From: killeen,tx usa

posted 02 February 2004 07:28 AM     profile   send email     edit
Ray and all, I posted Jerrys reply about the "wah button". There was a 3rd control on his Blond Rick but it was not a wah button and Jerry did not remember what it was for but never used it at all as far as he could remember and he alwaus did the wah effect with his finger on the TONE control. I had originally bought this up as I had the JB model blonde Rick like Jerrys and quite by accident I discovered it was a wah button. I was contacted by A person in Cal that was a former Rick employee and he said the 3rd button was intended to be a Mid control ala todays amps. He said that I was the 4th guy through all these yrs that he knew off who had a 3rd button that "malfunctioned". Another person here in Tx contacted me and said he had a wah button on his JB blonde Rick. He cane to my home and brought his and shorenuff his 3rd button "malfunctioned". My guitar was in pristene shape so he offered me a price I could not refuse. At no time did I accuse Jerry of using the 3rd button as a wah and Jerry says he did not so that is plenty good enough for me. BTW I know a fellow in San Angelo Tx that has a wah button on his 1975 Sho-Bud. Hope this clears up the wah button thing. In my correspondence with Jerry He knows I asked him the question out of curiousity since my blonde Rick arrived from the factory with a unintentunal wah.
Peter
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From: Cape Town, South Africa

posted 02 February 2004 08:15 AM     profile     edit
Henry, I think there was a version done by the Dutch group "the Jumping Jewels" or a similar name. They also did "Java", "Twilight Time" etc.
Check it out.
(Other versions are also done by James Last, Bert Kaempfert, Catarina Valente, Los Panchos, Max Gregor, Billy Vaughn. How do I know this? I searched on Kazaa Lite.)

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[This message was edited by Peter on 02 February 2004 at 08:20 AM.]

Henry
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From: Europe

posted 02 February 2004 09:10 AM     profile     edit
Thanks PETER,
BTW,,,
Did you already tried the ""DUTCHway""
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HIE TIE JA HOE BESSIE =hitijahubessy
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""wil het een beetje""?
Henry

[This message was edited by Henry on 02 February 2004 at 10:02 AM.]

Bill Creller
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From: Saginaw, Michigan, USA

posted 02 February 2004 09:48 AM     profile   send email     edit
Jerry's rendition of LaPaloma is another fine tune, done in what I believe is a tango rythm. I don't know if he recorded it, because I have it from a recording that my grandmother cut off the radio in about 1949.
Bill
Harry Williams
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From: Duncan, Vancouver Island, BC, Canada

posted 02 February 2004 10:24 AM     profile   send email     edit
Is anyone aware of tab for La Golondrina either on Lap or PSG? I first heard it by BE on his Four Wheel Drive recording.

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Peter
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From: Cape Town, South Africa

posted 02 February 2004 11:39 AM     profile     edit
Henry, Ja het lukt best hoor. Ik moet het nog 98 keer herhalen.
In English it would sound like "HeeTeeYahooBessy".

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Peter den Hartogh-Emmons 1978 S10 - Fender Artist S10-Remington U12-Hilton Volume Pedal-Gibson BR4 lapsteel-Guya "Stringmaster" Copy-MusicMan112RP-Peavy Rage158- - My Animation College in South Africa


Bob Stone
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From: Gainesville, FL, USA

posted 02 February 2004 02:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
I'm quite certain La Golondrina is Mexican. How about La Paloma, is it Mexican too? I think so...

Just curious.

basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 03 February 2004 02:50 AM     profile   send email     edit
La Paloma was also recorded by Felix Mendelssohn and his Hawaiian Serenaders with Roland Peachey on Hawaiian Guitar. January 1940... Parlophone F-1663..available on Harlequin HQ-CD-93

La Golondrina was recorded by Felix also. Sammy Mitchell on H.G. September 20th 1950 ..Columbia DB-2822.. NOT available since (But plans are afoot)

Does this Pre-date Jerry Byrd's version ? or was it copied from his ? or vice versa ?

Howard White also recorded both tunes BUT, called them "Steel Guitar Swallow" and "Steel Guitar Dove" respectively.. available on Bear Family Records..BCD-15575.
Howard White was a J.B. Inspired player and lived in Charlotte N.C.

Solomon King and Elvis Presley also recorded vocal versions of La Golendrina (as She Wears My Ring)
Basil Henriques www.waikiki-islanders.com


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c c johnson
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From: killeen,tx usa

posted 03 February 2004 03:58 AM     profile   send email     edit
Bob Wills and Spade Cooley played this sing at their danxes in the 40s in Calif. Bob Recorded it I don'know about Spade. When I was subbing w/Spade he would play it through once on the fiddle, and beautifully so; then go into some uptempo thing. People would listen to La Goandrina but not dance. He played it to accomadate those who asked for it but Spade could not stand people not dancing.
Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 03 February 2004 05:51 AM     profile   send email     edit
Milton Brown and his Musical Brownies recorded La Golondrina in 1930's as well.

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Henry
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From: Europe

posted 03 February 2004 07:27 AM     profile     edit
JB,
yeah

[This message was edited by Henry on 04 February 2004 at 11:04 AM.]

Roy Ayres
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From: Starke, Florida, USA

posted 03 February 2004 08:10 AM     profile   send email     edit
Another song with the same melody as La Golondrina was named "Within My Heart" and was recorded in the 40's or 50's. I don't recall who recorded it, but it was very popular at the time.
John Bechtel
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From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 03 February 2004 09:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
Unless I'm dreaming, wasn't LaGolondrina (She Wears My Ring) recorded by Ray Price?

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Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 04 February 2004 10:08 AM     profile   send email     edit
John.......I DO believe you are accurate.

Paul....those barn rafters you mention in the above post..... was your barn located in Cerano? or.....Capistrano? Or, somewhere in between? Please tell us the rest of the story. THanx. (Jack Benny once made those two places famous!)

[This message was edited by Ray Montee on 04 February 2004 at 10:09 AM.]

Smiley Roberts
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From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 04 February 2004 11:37 AM     profile   send email     edit
Ray,
It's funny that you should mention "Capistrano". The other day,I was at a local "waterin' hole" havin' a drink,& I heard one kidney say to the other,"This must be Capistrano,'cause here comes another swallow!"

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Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 04 February 2004 05:39 PM     profile   send email     edit
Smiley, I did it, just to get you to come forth with that line! I knew you weren't old enough to remember Jack Benny and his sequence that involved that lil' story.
Fred Layman
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From: Springfield, Missouri USA

posted 04 February 2004 08:42 PM     profile   send email     edit
I'm having difficulty getting a post added to this thread. This is a test to see whether it will go through, before I respond further.
Jack Byrd
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From: Kalamazoo, Michigan

posted 05 February 2004 06:48 AM     profile   send email     edit
Jerry has tabbed La Golondrina in C6th. It is in his catalog as well as La Paloma in C6th. These can be obtained from Jerry. His catalog has over 200 tabbed songs and it can also be obtained from Jerry.
C Dixon
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From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 05 February 2004 01:10 PM     profile   send email     edit
Thank you Jack,

The recording of "La Golendrina" that I love the most is on "HI FI Guitar"; that came out in the 50's. To me this is THE most beautiful recording Jerry EVER made. Every time I listen to it, I am in awe at his incredible tone on this specific recording.

I have seen him do it in person and heard other recordings of him doing it. But to me that recording has NO equal in my memory. Whatever Jerry ate that morning for breakfast I sure would like to know cause I would never eat anything esle!)

His harmonics the second go around, is incredibly awesome and perfect. I have a tape of him playing in Hawaii where he mentioned that he had stumbled on something just before recording that tune and he implemented it doing those harmonics.

I had always believed he over dubbed them. But now I wonder. I KNOW their is some overdubbing on that recording, but now I am thinking maybe what he was talking about in that video may not have been overdubbed when it came to the harmonic part.

All I know for sure is, I love that song more than any steel rendition I have EVER heard. And as I said in my original post, "to think it is also Buddy's favorite"

Wow, it does not get any better than that folks.

May Jesus richly bless them both, and all of you,

carl

Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 05 February 2004 01:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
Carl, here's the scoop from Jerry on how he played the harmonics on La Golondrina ...

From JB:

Most of the time, although I can do three string strums occasionally, where it fits, mostly I do either single or two string harmony. Now there is one way I do it that the leader of the two strings, like playing the first and second string, the second string would be harmonic and the first string would be open. So you get a different sound then, but the way I do it with my hand when I want both strings to be a harmonic I just tilt my right hand (picking hand) down a little bit to where I use the thumb pick on those two strings, as the second string is picked first and the top string last. So by moving my hand over a little bit I can get both strings as harmonic if I wish.

Now on three strings usually you do it on a straight line. A slant, depends on the tuning. But I can do it by my picking hand, if I’m doing a forward slant for instance, say first string on 7th fret, 2nd on 6th and 3rd on 5th, you’ve got the 5,6,7, stair step. So I take my thumb pick and go on an angle, the palm of my hand which makes the harmonic goes on an angle from left to right, the same angle the bar is held in, and that’s not easy to do but I do it in some places. Now, I do another thing that I discovered during a session in Dallas, Texas. I can pick the top string by using my first finger pick (index finger pick) and picking backwards with that pick. The top string is harmonic and the bottom two open; I can pick three strings much easier. The bottom strings are either open or harmonic. I did this on Golondrina on the Hi-Fi guitar album. I just stumbled on it that day during the session, and it came out beautifully. That is another trick you guys can cogitate over. But the top strings are harmonic and the bottom strings are open or the other way the bottom strings are harmonic and the top strings are open. And they are a lot easier to do this way than the other, I can play in real high register as on that record and I can get every one of them just as clear as a bell. So that’s the deal on harmonics.

Jesse Pearson
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From: San Diego , CA

posted 05 February 2004 01:48 PM     profile   send email     edit
Wow! Thanks guys, I'm starting to cogitate.
Jeff Strouse
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From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

posted 11 September 2004 09:16 PM     profile   send email     edit
I was sent an email a few weeks ago from someone who translated La Golondrina for us. I thought I'd post it here for anyone who might be interested.

Where will she go, fast and tired,
The swallow that leaves this place.
She has no heaven, but flies around
Searching for shelter she doesn't find.

Where will she go, fast and tired,
The swallow that leaves this place.
In the winds that will blow her around
Searching for shelter she doesn't find.
Next to my breast she will find her nest
and where she will be able to pass the season.
I too am lost
And, oh heaven, am unable to fly!

I, too, left my beloved homeland,
That mansion in which I was born.
Now I wander and I worry
And I am unable to return to my mansion.

Beloved bird, beloved pilgrim,
I'll reach my heart out to yours,
I'll hear your songs, beautiful swallow,
I'll remember my homeland and will cry.


George Keoki Lake
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From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

posted 12 September 2004 08:27 AM     profile     edit
The first recording I ever heard of Jerry was a tune called "Moonland". Any of you remember that one ?

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