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Topic: Rickenbacker info
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 12 April 2005 09:57 PM
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I'm gettin serious about finding a prewar Rick and am learnin more as I do research. This guitar is bein passed off as a 1938 model and I suspect it's a 49'or 50' model BD. My question is this, did the model BD only appear in the late 40's and 50's?
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55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 12 April 2005 at 09:59 PM.] [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 12 April 2005 at 10:00 PM.]
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Todd Clinesmith
Member From: Redcrest, California, USA
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posted 12 April 2005 10:21 PM
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I know it is not a 1938. I have a BD6 that looks identical....string through the body and the 1 1/4 pickup, cover over the tuners. Sounds great....i belive mine is from the early 50's. I think it sounds very comparable to my wartime 7 string, which is probably due to the sting through body. The other BD6's I have seen are all from this era.
I am sure some one with more Ricksperience will chime in.
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Russ Young
Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 12 April 2005 10:46 PM
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The BD6 was not introduced until 1949. |
Denny Turner
Member From: Northshore Oahu, Hawaii USA
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posted 13 April 2005 12:12 AM
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Andy,According to the data at the link I left on your previous Whazzisrick posting; BD's were from 1949 to 1971; But the one you're asking about now has features fitting 1945<, 1946> and 1949> (according to that link's site data anyway). Todd's posting seems to indicate that strings-thru were still being made on the BD after 1949 as well as the chrome plate string receiver tailpiece configuration, which would indicate to me that this one is 1949>; Although someone mixing and matching desired parts some time in it's life might be indicated too.  I'll go page Dr. Aiello to come look; I think he's sippin Mai-Tai's out by the pool. Aloha,
DT~
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Rick Aiello
Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 13 April 2005 04:09 AM
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I have a catalog from 1953 ... which shows that exact BD6.Between then and the end of "T-logos" era (circa 1948-9) ... the flip top "BD" had a tailpiece. Hope this helps. ------------------
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 13 April 2005 04:33 AM
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Just as I suspected, thanks for the info Rick. I found another model B that looks like it might be the real thing. Is this a prewar Rick?
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55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 13 April 2005 at 04:34 AM.]
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Rick Aiello
Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 13 April 2005 05:11 AM
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Circa '37-'38 ... Arrow knobs on opposite sides.OK ... Who stole the logo "badge" ... 
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 13 April 2005 at 05:14 AM.]
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Ray Montee
Member From: Portland, OR, USA
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posted 13 April 2005 05:40 AM
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Just a word of caution for those of you who might be unfamiliar with Ric's.
Many of these beautiful gems have been dropped or knocked over and it is not uncommon to find a repair job somewhere near the "nut"; most likely close to the first set of tuning pegs. Some repairs are good and will never be noticed, musically, however it is an item to make note of with respect to "clean" or "Prior damage".....
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Harry Sheppard
Member From: Kalispell, MT USA
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posted 13 April 2005 07:18 AM
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Andy,DO NOT buy that prewar bakelite without the badge if it is offered by a California dealer. I bought that guitar over a year ago at a fair price and when it arrived, it was very obvious that it had been dropped hard on the endpin. There is a crack running thruogh the body at the bridge, the endpin is bent and the top volume knob is broken. When the guitar arrived and I saw the damage I called them right away to report it. The guitar was packed well and there was no damage to the box. Luckily I had them email some pictures of it to me before I bought it and after checking them very carefully, I saw the volume knob was obviously broken before they shipped it. The said they were sorry and and took it back for a full refund. They also filed a UPS damage claim and collected!! UPS did not take the guitar as they usually do and it was sent back to the dealer. Several months later the guitar showed up on their website again and get this, It is $200 HIGHER than what I paid for it and no mention of the damage. The guitar has no badge or serial number stammped in the headstock. It also has some kind of funky round plastic piece routed into the top of the bridge for the strings to go over. The tuners are also not original. This guitar is only good for parts which is what they said they were going to with it. I did report it to UPS but nothing happened. Harry |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:31 PM
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Thanks Harry for the heads up. Turns out that guitar got sold again anyway. Well? the search continues. I'm still searchin for my "dream" guitar and found this one listed as a "30's model". It looks more like a war time Rick to me. Any comments? Thanks to all that took time to answer my questions.
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55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators |
Russ Young
Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:38 PM
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Both knobs on one side indicate that it couldn't be any older than late 1938 or 1939. I wouldn't advertise that as a "30's model." |
Ray Montee
Member From: Portland, OR, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 03:35 PM
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Is that a Ric amp? Looks clean enough.Looks like a good one; large pickups and strings thro' the bod.
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 11:15 PM
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Not sure about the amp. I'm waitin on more info and pics on the guitar. It's priced a little high but if it's as clean as it looks I don't mind payin. Thanks again guys for the input. This Forum is the best.------------------
55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators |
Jeff Au Hoy
Member From: Honolulu, Hawai'i
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posted 15 April 2005 04:19 AM
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I think the Rick above is a wartime model... based on the fact that the knob panel has a raised area beneath each knob, which indicates that the panels are plastic. |
Alvin Blaine
Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA
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posted 15 April 2005 04:47 AM
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quote:
Is that a Ric amp?
YES. I have one just like it. No volume or tone knobs to get in the way, it just has off/on switch. |
Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 15 April 2005 11:50 AM
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Thanks Jeff. I never noticed the raised area under the knobs until you called it to my attention. How do these war timers compare to the pre war models? I'm tryin to contact the owner to get more pics. BTW the amp is not part of the deal, just a little teaser I guess.------------------
55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators |
Mike Neer
Member From: NJ
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posted 15 April 2005 12:47 PM
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Wartimes rock. I had a wonderful one that I unfortunately had to sell, but it found a good home and appreciative owner here on the forum. I wish I had another. Before I owned my Frying Pan, it was the best sounding steel I'd owned. They have a unique feel, too. |
Rick Aiello
Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 15 April 2005 01:11 PM
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Wartimes ( 1/4" jack, vol/tone on audience side, 1.5" mags, string thru) ... have stronger magnets than the other prewars.They are "thinner" (same 1.5" width) ... but a better grade of cobalt steel was used. They routinely charge to 225+ gauss (midgap) ... Earlier "prewars" vary greatly ... from a max of 130 gauss to around 210 gauss.
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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