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Topic: Lead Filled Glass Bars
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:26 PM
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Those busy Boyetts (Gary & Jeff) have come up with a lead filled glass bar that is just terrific! The added weight of the lead gives it a lot more sustain, and of course the smoothness of the glass gives it noiseless easy slideability . . I'm impressed. It's great to have a variety of nice bars to choose from! Here's the link.
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Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:36 PM
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Hey Rick, does it compare any to the Rajah bars? does it have the same grip, feel as the Rajahs?------------------ 55" Fender Stringmaster T8, 54" Fender Champion, Carter D-10, two Oahu laps, two National laps, and two Resonators |
Russ Young Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:40 PM
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Rick -- Howzabout the dimensions and weight? |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 02:51 PM
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Andy, it feels different than the Rajahs - smoother, and heavier. The Rajahs are great, and so are the Boyetts - but they're dissimilar in every way. I like both very much and I switch between them and the wonderful Burden hard chrome Bullet Bars. 3 different feels and sounds - keeps me on my toes! Russ, this particular one is 3/4" by 3", and I'm not sure of the exact weight, but it's relatively heavy for its size due to the lead filling. Gary and Jeff can make them any size you like.
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John Bechtel Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 14 April 2005 02:58 PM
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I have one of each of the glass~bars. I haven't actually weighed them, but. the Lead~Filled compares to a standard Stainless~Bar in weight. They are indeed very smooth and the sustain surpasses most other brands of Tone~Bars. They are available in 3/4”, 7/8” and 1” and at your desired length to the best of my knowledge! You can get all critical details by emailing to the address on the Website. IMHO = If you try it, you will like it!------------------ “Big John” Bechtel ’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom ’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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Gary Boyett Member From: Colorado
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posted 14 April 2005 07:21 PM
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Thanks guys for the support. I wanted to come up with something a little different. Jeff (son) as been a glass blower for a while and we got together about two months ago and came up with this idea. Those of you who get the Jody Carver Fender club newsletter might have seen a little blurb in there. The solid glass bars offer a more resonate sound. There is less sustain on the solid glass bars. The weighted bars are just awesome on sustain. The glass slide very nicely and the weight is more comfortable to us old timers. I have not tried these on pedal steel yet. (Since I only play non-pedal) Thanks go out to Rick for the support on his site. There is still more to come later. If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me. Thanks, Gary
------------------ JCFSGC member since 2005 Boyett's Glass Bars http://rickalexander.com/BigSteel/BoyettGlassBars.html
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Gary Boyett Member From: Colorado
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posted 14 April 2005 07:56 PM
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Sorry guys,double post. New computer giving me fits!
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John Bechtel Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 14 April 2005 08:49 PM
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Gary; Don't feel bad. I don't even have a computer!------------------ “Big John” Bechtel ’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom ’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 14 April 2005 08:58 PM
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Repetition for emphasis - it's a time-honored literary and marketing device!Repetition for emphasis - Butt seriously, I predict great things for Boyett's Glass Bars, leaded and unleaded! Great things! I'm going to order one in every color . . ------------------ Rick Alexander Remington Steelmaster T8, 57 Fender Stringmaster T8, 49 Fender Custom, 69 Strat, 68 Tele, Gibson ES 335, Rickenbacker BD6, National New Yorker, 76 Dobro Squareneck Reso Music Man, Fender & Peavey Amps Chevy Express 2500, Ruger Security Six, Dogues de Bordeaux
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Jeff Strouse Member From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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posted 15 April 2005 07:53 PM
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Do they have a recessed indentation on the end for the thumb when doing reverse slants? |
Andre Nizzari Member From: Bronx, New York
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posted 15 April 2005 08:00 PM
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I wonder if one side can be made flat for that "sitar" sound. ------------------ http://www.andreandthenighthounds.com/ |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 15 April 2005 10:28 PM
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Jeff, yes they do. Andre, sounds like a cool idea - you could email Boyett's Glass Bars glassbars@earthlink.net and see what they say . .[This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 15 April 2005 at 10:30 PM.]
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Travis Bernhardt Member From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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posted 16 April 2005 02:03 AM
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What a cool idea! Is there a precedent for this, or is it a brand new invention?-Travis |
Andre Nizzari Member From: Bronx, New York
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posted 16 April 2005 03:50 AM
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Hey Travis, I acually have a slippery slip that has a flat side for the sitar sound. The slippery slide is cool but it is very light and I don't think there still being made. Anyway, these new glass slides with the extra weight of adding lead seems like a great idea! I like the feel of a glass bar because it will NEVER slip out of my hands. Something about the glass that it just sticks to your hands. |
Rick Aiello Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 16 April 2005 08:53 AM
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I just sent y'all a "request" for a very customized bar ...
------------------ Aiello's House of Gauss My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Gary Boyett Member From: Colorado
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posted 16 April 2005 09:50 AM
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Thanks to everyone for the great response. We have had several orders and will do our best to customize them to each specification.I will try to make the Flattie Rick. I sent you an email. ------------------ JCFSGC member since 2005 Boyett's Glass Bars |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 16 April 2005 10:24 AM
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Lead Filled Glass Flatties! What will they think of next? |
Rick Aiello Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 16 April 2005 10:30 AM
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It doesn't really need to be "leaded" ... "unleaded" would be fine. With the "Flatties" ... its all about pressure (P = F/A) But if he can make a leaded version ... I'll take a few of each ... ------------------ Aiello's House of Gauss My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 16 April 2005 10:58 AM
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Rick, I have one of each, and they're both real nice. The leaded has MAJOR sustain . . |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 11:10 AM
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Gary tells me they can do custom colors now! |
Travis Bernhardt Member From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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posted 18 April 2005 11:00 PM
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Nobody knows if there's a precedent for a lead-filled glass bar?-Travis |
Don Kona Woods Member From: Vancouver, Washington, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 11:17 PM
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This glass bar concept is a very interesting concept.Glass, as you may know, is a conductor of sound. Perhaps it contributes to the sustain because of it. Aloha, Don |
Russ Wever Member From: Roanoke, Virginia
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posted 18 April 2005 11:44 PM
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How much do it cost? How much of a drop will it take? Is it Shatter-Proof Glass? (Just thinking ahead!) ~Russ |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 11:45 PM
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Leaded glass may have been used to make bars before, but the lead-filled glass is a new innovation by those enterprising Boyetts. It's a winning combination! Glass is indeed a conductor, and it slides smoothly and noiselessly. Testing has shown that the lead filling increases the sustain considerably. |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 11:55 PM
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Russ, here's the link. |
Ron Victoria Member From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA
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posted 23 April 2005 05:17 AM
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It looks to be bullet shaped on both ends, but it can't to get the lead in. Is this correct?Ron |
Gary Boyett Member From: Colorado
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posted 23 April 2005 06:33 AM
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No, they are not round on both ends. I can do that on a solid bar but not on a weighted bar (yet)The bars have an indention on the back side for the thumb. We are trying some new ideas there too. Also a quick note: Our supplier no longer carries the solid glass in 7/8" I am searching for a new supplier but for now the 7/8" solid bars are not available. I will let you know when they are.. Thanks,
------------------ JCFSGC member since 2005 Boyett's Glass Bars
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seldomfed Member From: Colorado
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posted 03 May 2005 04:13 PM
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Sorry I'm late to the party here, I was in HI since 4-16 and at HSGA last week.I have one of the new lead filled bars from Gary and co. and it's wonderful. They have a winner here. Very Smooooooth. It has sustain similar to a standard steel bar, but the tone is a little more mellow. I like the weight, and the way it slides. It's pretty much 3/4" X 2 7/8" - perhaps a tad longer. (right Gary?) I've not played it out much yet, so can't comment on how well it will stay in my hand on a hot sweaty stage. This glass is a neat thing - sometimes the metal bars reveal those minor nicks in the strings and 'drag' a bit (I normally use a BJS 3/4" X 2 7/8") - the glass does not. The Black Phoenix bars are smooth too, but the coating wears down after a while so they also catch nicks here and there. This is a sweet sounding bar. The all-glass bar they make has much less sustain and is extremely light - fun to use, and nice for some songs and tones. mahalo Gary for the bar! ------------------ Chris Kennison Ft. Collins, Colorado "Listen Sooner" www.book-em-danno.com www.seldomfed.com
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 10 May 2005 02:19 AM
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I just got this one today - it's the perfect size! Killer Sustain and Ultra Smooth Action - And so photogenic . . |
Ron Brennan Member From: Edison, New Jersey, USA
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posted 10 May 2005 09:12 PM
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Man that is ....Is that an abstract picture of Jaw's havin a surfer??? Can't quite make that out..that is one cool bar...Gary, how do I get one? Can they be made in different sizes? TX rgds, Ron ------------------ JCFSC member since 2005 "Be of Good Cheer" "55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6 "67" Telecaster, "60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's |
Gerald Ross Member From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 05:33 AM
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Are those scratches on the outside of the bar or just reflections from the flash?------------------ Gerald Ross 'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar' Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 09:46 AM
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Gerald, there are no scratches on the surface. It may be the flash or it may be the lead itself.This bar is very smooth, much more so than any other type of bar. The more I use it, the more I like it . . |
Stephan Miller Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 02:08 PM
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Rick-- earlier you mentioned the 3/4" x 3" Boyett bar you were using. I'll be ordering at least one of the lead-weighted ones soon, and wondered about the bar you just got: what's the "perfect size"? --Steve |
Gary Boyett Member From: Colorado
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posted 11 May 2005 06:46 PM
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Ron- Rick's Glass bar is a 7/8" X 2 3/4"I am glad everyone likes/loves the Glass bars. We are having a great time designing and re-designing these to be the best. The tone is just unbelievable! Every bar is totally hand blown. The bars are then ran through the kiln for over 5 hours to be sure they are as strong as possible. NOW THE GREAT NEWS!!!! Jeff has contracted with Bobbe Seymour to sell his Glass bars through Bobbe Seymour's Steel Guitar Nashville! You can now order the bars directly from Bobbe. The great thing is the payment options. Bobbe can take credit cards, etc. We will still fill all orders received by fax or mail until Saturday May 14, 2005. All order after that will go to Bobbe. You can check out his site at: http://www.steelguitar.net/ Steel Guitar Nashville has placed a large order and we should be shipping them by May 20, 2005. If you are wanting a special size please email the store at: sales@steelguitar.net Please contact me if you have any questions. Thank you all so much! Gary & Jeff ------------------ JCFSGC member since 2005 Fenders- Georgeboard- Melobar Boyett's Glass Bars [This message was edited by Gary Boyett on 11 May 2005 at 06:47 PM.]
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Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 07:45 PM
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--- CONGRATULATIONS GARY & JEFF! --- You've hit the big time now! I'll add the phone number and link to Bobbe Seymour's Steel Guitar Nashville on The Boyett's Bar page so that visitors will know where to get their bars. RA |
Ron Brennan Member From: Edison, New Jersey, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 08:55 PM
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Gary,Jeff,Thank you for the information.. I join Rick in congratulating you guy's on the above announcement. Bobbe Seymour has one great staff at Steel Guitar Nashville. It's a pleasure dealing with them...I'll be calling them tomorrow to place and order for the Lead filled glass bar. TX rgds, Ron ------------------ JCFSC member since 2005 "Be of Good Cheer" "55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6 "67" Telecaster, "60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's |
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 11 May 2005 10:22 PM
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quote: what's the "perfect size"
Steve, the "perfect size" is very subjective, it's a matter of individual preference. To me, the length has to be 2 3/4". Any longer and I'll drop it on my foot when I go from a reverse slant to a forward slant. I've used both 3/4" and 7/8" diameter. The 7/8" is easier to hold onto for hammer ons and pull offs. Some 7/8" steel bars are too heavy for me, but this lead filled glass bar is a nice weight.Another thing I've been noticing is - while it slides smoothly along the strings, it sticks to my hand and gives me full control. Plus the silicone in the back adheres to the thumb, which is great for slant accuracy. |
Brandin Member From: Newport Beach CA. USA
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posted 14 May 2005 04:55 PM
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I got one (5/8 x 31/4) and it is very smooth on the strings, and sounds great! As Rick said, it's easy to hold on to. I wish these guys much success!GB |
Stephan Miller Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 14 May 2005 09:45 PM
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Rick-- thanks for going into the reasons for your preference. It sounds like these bars have the virtues of the powder-coated bars I've been using, and maybe some other advantages too. Should know soon... just ordered a couple from Bobbe Seymour-- the first of many phone orders he's about to get, I'd say. Thanks for providing the contact info as well. --Steve |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 15 May 2005 07:48 AM
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I think it goes without saying that I really do love these bars. I have heard so many players rave about them that I just had to try one, and I was impressed greatly. We may handle several brands of bars, but the one I use is the "Boyett Glass,Lead Filled". The most unique, best feeling bar I ever remember using, this comment is echoed by all who have tried it in my store. Gary and Jeff should be commended highly for this one! Bobbe |