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Rick Alexander
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From: Florida, USA

posted 14 April 2005 02:26 PM     profile   send email     edit
Those busy Boyetts (Gary & Jeff) have come up with a lead filled glass bar that is just terrific!

The added weight of the lead gives it a lot more sustain, and of course the smoothness of the glass gives it noiseless easy slideability . .

I'm impressed. It's great to have a variety of nice bars to choose from!

Here's the link.

[This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 14 April 2005 at 07:36 PM.]

Andy Sandoval
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From: Bakersfield, California, USA

posted 14 April 2005 02:36 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hey Rick, does it compare any to the Rajah bars? does it have the same grip, feel as the Rajahs?

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Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 14 April 2005 02:40 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick -- Howzabout the dimensions and weight?
Rick Alexander
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From: Florida, USA

posted 14 April 2005 02:51 PM     profile   send email     edit
Andy, it feels different than the Rajahs - smoother, and heavier. The Rajahs are great, and so are the Boyetts - but they're dissimilar in every way.
I like both very much and I switch between them and the wonderful Burden hard chrome Bullet Bars. 3 different feels and sounds - keeps me on my toes!


Russ, this particular one is 3/4" by 3", and I'm not sure of the exact weight, but it's relatively heavy for its size due to the lead filling.
Gary and Jeff can make them any size you like.

John Bechtel
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From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 14 April 2005 02:58 PM     profile   send email     edit
I have one of each of the glass~bars. I haven't actually weighed them, but. the Lead~Filled compares to a standard Stainless~Bar in weight. They are indeed very smooth and the sustain surpasses most other brands of Tone~Bars. They are available in 3/4”, 7/8” and 1” and at your desired length to the best of my knowledge! You can get all critical details by emailing to the address on the Website. IMHO = If you try it, you will like it!

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Gary Boyett
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From: Colorado

posted 14 April 2005 07:21 PM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks guys for the support. I wanted to come up with something a little different. Jeff (son) as been a glass blower for a while and we got together about two months ago and came up with this idea. Those of you who get the Jody Carver Fender club newsletter might have seen a little blurb in there.

The solid glass bars offer a more resonate sound. There is less sustain on the solid glass bars.

The weighted bars are just awesome on sustain. The glass slide very nicely and the weight is more comfortable to us old timers.

I have not tried these on pedal steel yet. (Since I only play non-pedal)

Thanks go out to Rick for the support on his site. There is still more to come later.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me.
Thanks,

Gary

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Boyett's Glass Bars
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Gary Boyett
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From: Colorado

posted 14 April 2005 07:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
Sorry guys,double post. New computer giving me fits!


[This message was edited by Gary Boyett on 14 April 2005 at 08:02 PM.]

John Bechtel
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From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.

posted 14 April 2005 08:49 PM     profile   send email     edit
Gary;
Don't feel bad. I don't even have a computer!

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’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence

Rick Alexander
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From: Florida, USA

posted 14 April 2005 08:58 PM     profile   send email     edit
Repetition for emphasis - it's a time-honored literary and marketing device!

Repetition for emphasis -

Butt seriously, I predict great things for Boyett's Glass Bars, leaded and unleaded!
Great things!
I'm going to order one in every color . .

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Rick Alexander
Remington Steelmaster T8, 57 Fender Stringmaster T8, 49 Fender Custom, 69 Strat, 68 Tele, Gibson ES 335, Rickenbacker BD6, National New Yorker, 76 Dobro Squareneck Reso
Music Man, Fender & Peavey Amps
Chevy Express 2500, Ruger Security Six, Dogues de Bordeaux


[This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 14 April 2005 at 09:04 PM.]

Jeff Strouse
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From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

posted 15 April 2005 07:53 PM     profile   send email     edit
Do they have a recessed indentation on the end for the thumb when doing reverse slants?
Andre Nizzari
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From: Bronx, New York

posted 15 April 2005 08:00 PM     profile   send email     edit
I wonder if one side can be made flat for that "sitar" sound.

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Rick Alexander
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From: Florida, USA

posted 15 April 2005 10:28 PM     profile   send email     edit
Jeff, yes they do.


Andre, sounds like a cool idea - you could email Boyett's Glass Bars glassbars@earthlink.net and see what they say . .

[This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 15 April 2005 at 10:30 PM.]

Travis Bernhardt
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From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

posted 16 April 2005 02:03 AM     profile   send email     edit
What a cool idea! Is there a precedent for this, or is it a brand new invention?

-Travis

Andre Nizzari
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From: Bronx, New York

posted 16 April 2005 03:50 AM     profile   send email     edit
Hey Travis, I acually have a slippery slip that has a flat side for the sitar sound. The slippery slide is cool but it is very light and I don't think there still being made. Anyway, these new glass slides with the extra weight of adding lead seems like a great idea! I like the feel of a glass bar because it will NEVER slip out of my hands. Something about the glass that it just sticks to your hands.
Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 16 April 2005 08:53 AM     profile   send email     edit
I just sent y'all a "request" for a very customized bar ...


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Gary Boyett
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From: Colorado

posted 16 April 2005 09:50 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks to everyone for the great response.
We have had several orders and will do our best to customize them to each specification.

I will try to make the Flattie Rick. I sent you an email.

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Boyett's Glass Bars

Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 16 April 2005 10:24 AM     profile   send email     edit
Lead Filled Glass Flatties! What will they think of next?
Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 16 April 2005 10:30 AM     profile   send email     edit

It doesn't really need to be "leaded" ... "unleaded" would be fine.

With the "Flatties" ... its all about pressure (P = F/A)

But if he can make a leaded version ... I'll take a few of each ...

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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 16 April 2005 at 10:46 AM.]

Rick Alexander
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From: Florida, USA

posted 16 April 2005 10:58 AM     profile   send email     edit
Rick, I have one of each, and they're both real nice. The leaded has MAJOR sustain . .
Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 18 April 2005 11:10 AM     profile   send email     edit
Gary tells me they can do custom colors now!
Travis Bernhardt
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From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

posted 18 April 2005 11:00 PM     profile   send email     edit
Nobody knows if there's a precedent for a lead-filled glass bar?

-Travis

Don Kona Woods
Member

From: Vancouver, Washington, USA

posted 18 April 2005 11:17 PM     profile   send email     edit
This glass bar concept is a very interesting concept.

Glass, as you may know, is a conductor of sound. Perhaps it contributes to the sustain because of it.

Aloha,
Don

Russ Wever
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From: Roanoke, Virginia

posted 18 April 2005 11:44 PM     profile   send email     edit
How much do it cost?
How much of a drop will it take?
Is it Shatter-Proof Glass?
(Just thinking ahead!)

~Russ
Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 18 April 2005 11:45 PM     profile   send email     edit
Leaded glass may have been used to make bars before, but the lead-filled glass is a new innovation by those enterprising Boyetts.
It's a winning combination!

Glass is indeed a conductor, and it slides smoothly and noiselessly. Testing has shown that the lead filling increases the sustain considerably.
Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 18 April 2005 11:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
Russ, here's the link.

Ron Victoria
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From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA

posted 23 April 2005 05:17 AM     profile   send email     edit
It looks to be bullet shaped on both ends, but it can't to get the lead in. Is this correct?

Ron

Gary Boyett
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From: Colorado

posted 23 April 2005 06:33 AM     profile   send email     edit
No, they are not round on both ends. I can do that on a solid bar but not on a weighted bar (yet)

The bars have an indention on the back side for the thumb. We are trying some new ideas there too.

Also a quick note: Our supplier no longer carries the solid glass in 7/8" I am searching for a new supplier but for now the 7/8" solid bars are not available.

I will let you know when they are..
Thanks,

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JCFSGC member since 2005

Boyett's Glass Bars


seldomfed
Member

From: Colorado

posted 03 May 2005 04:13 PM     profile     edit
Sorry I'm late to the party here, I was in HI since 4-16 and at HSGA last week.

I have one of the new lead filled bars from Gary and co. and it's wonderful. They have a winner here. Very Smooooooth.

It has sustain similar to a standard steel bar, but the tone is a little more mellow. I like the weight, and the way it slides.
It's pretty much 3/4" X 2 7/8" - perhaps a tad longer. (right Gary?) I've not played it out much yet, so can't comment on how well it will stay in my hand on a hot sweaty stage.

This glass is a neat thing - sometimes the metal bars reveal those minor nicks in the strings and 'drag' a bit (I normally use a BJS 3/4" X 2 7/8") - the glass does not. The Black Phoenix bars are smooth too, but the coating wears down after a while so they also catch nicks here and there.

This is a sweet sounding bar.

The all-glass bar they make has much less sustain and is extremely light - fun to use, and nice for some songs and tones.

mahalo Gary for the bar!

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Ft. Collins, Colorado
"Listen Sooner"
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Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 10 May 2005 02:19 AM     profile   send email     edit
I just got this one today - it's the perfect size!
Killer Sustain and Ultra Smooth Action -
And so photogenic . .

Ron Brennan
Member

From: Edison, New Jersey, USA

posted 10 May 2005 09:12 PM     profile   send email     edit
Man that is ....Is that an abstract picture of Jaw's havin a surfer??? Can't quite make that out..that is one cool bar...Gary, how do I get one? Can they be made in different sizes? TX
rgds,
Ron

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"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 11 May 2005 05:33 AM     profile   send email     edit
Are those scratches on the outside of the bar or just reflections from the flash?

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Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 11 May 2005 09:46 AM     profile   send email     edit
Gerald, there are no scratches on the surface. It may be the flash or it may be the lead itself.

This bar is very smooth, much more so than any other type of bar. The more I use it, the more I like it . .

Stephan Miller
Member

From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA

posted 11 May 2005 02:08 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick-- earlier you mentioned the 3/4" x 3" Boyett bar you were using. I'll be ordering
at least one of the lead-weighted ones soon, and wondered about the bar you just got: what's the "perfect size"? --Steve
Gary Boyett
Member

From: Colorado

posted 11 May 2005 06:46 PM     profile   send email     edit
Ron- Rick's Glass bar is a 7/8" X 2 3/4"

I am glad everyone likes/loves the Glass bars. We are having a great time designing and re-designing these to be the best.
The tone is just unbelievable!

Every bar is totally hand blown. The bars are then ran through the kiln for over 5 hours to be sure they are as strong as possible.

NOW THE GREAT NEWS!!!!

Jeff has contracted with Bobbe Seymour to sell his Glass bars through Bobbe Seymour's Steel Guitar Nashville!

You can now order the bars directly from Bobbe. The great thing is the payment options. Bobbe can take credit cards, etc.

We will still fill all orders received by fax or mail until Saturday May 14, 2005. All order after that will go to Bobbe.

You can check out his site at: http://www.steelguitar.net/

Steel Guitar Nashville has placed a large order and we should be shipping them by May 20, 2005.

If you are wanting a special size please email the store at:

sales@steelguitar.net

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Thank you all so much!

Gary & Jeff

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JCFSGC member since 2005
Fenders- Georgeboard- Melobar
Boyett's Glass Bars

[This message was edited by Gary Boyett on 11 May 2005 at 06:47 PM.]

Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 11 May 2005 07:45 PM     profile   send email     edit
--- CONGRATULATIONS GARY & JEFF! ---
You've hit the big time now!

I'll add the phone number and link to Bobbe Seymour's Steel Guitar Nashville on The Boyett's Bar page so that visitors will know where to get their bars.

RA

Ron Brennan
Member

From: Edison, New Jersey, USA

posted 11 May 2005 08:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
Gary,Jeff,

Thank you for the information..

I join Rick in congratulating you guy's on the above announcement.

Bobbe Seymour has one great staff at Steel Guitar Nashville. It's a pleasure dealing with them...I'll be calling them tomorrow to place and order for the Lead filled glass bar. TX
rgds,
Ron

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JCFSC member since 2005 "Be of Good Cheer"
"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's

Rick Alexander
Member

From: Florida, USA

posted 11 May 2005 10:22 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
what's the "perfect size"

Steve, the "perfect size" is very subjective, it's a matter of individual preference.
To me, the length has to be 2 3/4". Any longer and I'll drop it on my foot when I go from a reverse slant to a forward slant. I've used both 3/4" and 7/8" diameter. The 7/8" is easier to hold onto for hammer ons and pull offs. Some 7/8" steel bars are too heavy for me, but this lead filled glass bar is a nice weight.

Another thing I've been noticing is - while it slides smoothly along the strings, it sticks to my hand and gives me full control. Plus the silicone in the back adheres to the thumb, which is great for slant accuracy.

Brandin
Member

From: Newport Beach CA. USA

posted 14 May 2005 04:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
I got one (5/8 x 31/4) and it is very smooth
on the strings, and sounds great! As Rick said, it's easy to hold on to. I wish these
guys much success!

GB

Stephan Miller
Member

From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA

posted 14 May 2005 09:45 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick-- thanks for going into the reasons for your preference. It sounds like these bars have the virtues of the powder-coated bars I've been using, and maybe some other advantages too. Should know soon... just ordered a couple from Bobbe Seymour-- the first of many phone orders he's about to get, I'd say. Thanks for providing the contact info as well. --Steve
BobbeSeymour
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From: Hendersonville TN USA

posted 15 May 2005 07:48 AM     profile   send email     edit
I think it goes without saying that I really do love these bars. I have heard so many players rave about them that I just had to try one, and I was impressed greatly. We may handle several brands of bars, but the one I use is the "Boyett Glass,Lead Filled".
The most unique, best feeling bar I ever remember using, this comment is echoed by all who have tried it in my store.
Gary and Jeff should be commended highly for this one!
Bobbe

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