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Ed Mooney Member From: Chicago	posted 15 September 2006 12:57 PM profile send email edit Check it out.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAk_0N85wNk Can someone verify the tuning? Ed [This message was edited by Ed Mooney on 15 September 2006 at 01:00 PM.]
Billy Wilson Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA	posted 15 September 2006 01:19 PM profile send email edit That is cool!!
Bill Leff Member From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA	posted 15 September 2006 01:20 PM profile send email edit Thanks for sharing this Ed. That was way cool. Loved reading the remarks on the page about it also. This is truly such a special song for so many people. Did anyone else notice that their bodies looked out of proportion, large heads, tiny bodies. Maybe these guys were from outer space and came to our planet to share the love?
Jason Dumont Member From: Bristol, Connecticut, USA	posted 15 September 2006 01:36 PM profile send email edit Wow... What can you say? It's a masterpiece. Dig that %^$ing tone he's getting!
Michael Scdoris Member From: San Francisco, Ca.	posted 15 September 2006 01:42 PM profile send email edit I think the tuning was C#m.L to H BC#EG#C#E
Rick Alexander Member From: Florida, USA	posted 15 September 2006 01:58 PM profile send email edit Santo's playing a Custom . .
Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA	posted 15 September 2006 02:22 PM profile send email edit Way cool! There's something mysterious and magical about that tune and the throbbing chords and vibrato of the performance. [This message was edited by Andy Volk on 15 September 2006 at 04:17 PM.]
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed U.S.A Dodger Blue Forever 16th Miracle U.S.A.	posted 15 September 2006 03:05 PM profile edit The tone and feel can't be beat.
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 15 September 2006 04:07 PM profile send email edit I first learned that tune on my Strat but it was one of the first tunes I learned when I started playin steel.
Colm Chomicky Member From: Prairie Village, Kansas, USA	posted 15 September 2006 04:40 PM profile send email edit Love it, a trip back in time on the ol' time machine.
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA	posted 15 September 2006 05:38 PM profile send email edit Michael S, thanks for the tuning! I used to play it in C6, close but not perfect on the voicings . That C#m7 tuning record copies perfect and sounds just like it, too cool. The right tuning always seemed contested before, but this follows his hands on the video. Thanks again...
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 15 September 2006 05:45 PM profile send email edit Awesome. That's the real deal. ------------------ My Site - Instruction
Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA	posted 15 September 2006 06:20 PM profile send email edit E C# ? G# ? E ? E I don't see or hear him play the other strings, so I put ? there. You can hear most of it in the intro 1st bar : 8th fret C on the low E string, then C and E on the middle E and G# strings 2nd bar : 5th fret low A on the low E string then 8th fret A and E on the C# and G# strings He plays open G# for the Ab in the F minor, and then 4 bars later it is F major. I wonder how Johnny feels about the mix there.
Brad Bechtel Moderator From: San Francisco, CA	posted 15 September 2006 06:22 PM profile send email edit I've always wondered how he played that; now I know. Thanks for sharing! ------------------ Brad's Page of Steel A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 15 September 2006 07:31 PM profile send email edit I think it lays out pretty nice in C6, especially 8 string C6.
Jeff Strouse Member From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA	posted 16 September 2006 05:08 AM profile send email edit Cool..I've never seen him play before!! Was there some overdubbing in there? It seemed there was some steel guitar work going on that Santo wasn't playing???
Kevin Ruddell Member From: Toledo Ohio USA	posted 16 September 2006 05:39 AM profile send email edit I play it in C# on an A6 neck on my Fender but there's always a few things I can't seem to match up on some S+J tunes . Anyone know what Santo tuned his necks to ?
Frank Welsh Member From: New York, USA	posted 16 September 2006 06:04 AM profile send email edit In a "Gutar Player" interview in the late 1980's ("Unsung Heroes" column), Santo says that he recorded "Sleepwalk" and "Teardrop" on the C#minor tuning and had A6th and E7th on the other necks. He said he could play "Sleepwalk" on any of the tunings since he played like a vocalist and the tunings used were not that relevant. I have found that the C#minor does fit the sound of most of the Santo & Johnny hits and permits that "twangy" sound that Santo often got with a lot of the melody played on the first three strings. C6th forces you into some thicker sounding regions of the neck and can provide a different sound for some of their tunes.
Erv Niehaus Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA	posted 16 September 2006 07:18 AM profile send email edit I've played a lot of C#minor tuning but I always liked a B on the third string. This way you get kind of a combination C#minor and an E tuning for the same money. Actually the addition of the B makes the tuning a C#minor7th for you purists. [This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 16 September 2006 at 07:20 AM.]
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed U.S.A Dodger Blue Forever 16th Miracle U.S.A.	posted 16 September 2006 07:23 AM profile edit To My Buddy Rick Rick, Santo was playing a Triple neck Stringmaster on all of his recordings and not a Custom. Check your e mail. [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 16 September 2006 at 07:27 AM.]
Garry Vanderlinde Member From: Garden Grove, California, USA	posted 16 September 2006 09:45 AM profile send email edit On the YOUTUBE clip, it sure looks like he is playing a Custom. Trapezoid pickup, lollypop tuners, and three legs. Did Santo use more than one guitar?
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA	posted 16 September 2006 10:04 AM profile edit "They did the original, so they can do anything with it that they wish....and I hope that I didn't embarrass them with my renditions of their song! ------------------ www.genejones.com
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 16 September 2006 04:03 PM profile send email edit Every time I watch that video I'm amazed by those signature harmonics he throws in there. Is he usin a volume pedal to get that loud awesome sustain? [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 16 September 2006 at 04:06 PM.]
Derrick Mau Member From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA	posted 16 September 2006 05:43 PM profile send email edit I tried this on a 6 string steel; and you can get most of the song with six strings, but if you want to copy note for note you'd need the 8 string to do the opening note and the turn around with bass strings. Left to right: E G# B C# E G# C# E Andy, he is not really doing a harmonic but by hitting the string up close to the bar, he can get the note to have a twangy effect. Anyone no where this video was taken? Great material Ed! Thanks.
William Clark Member From: Chicago, IL USA	posted 16 September 2006 07:33 PM profile send email edit That is definitely a Custom 8. Check out where the selector switch is. Definitely in the wrong place for a Stringmaster. Great tone and an addicting clip!
George Keoki Lake Member From: Edmonton, AB., Canada	posted 16 September 2006 08:05 PM profile edit I would NEVER doubt Jody, (sacriligeous)....however I have the identical guitar. He is playing a CUSTOM on that clip. Sorry Jody, I bow down to you in reverance....please forgive...ok ? I wonder where S and J are today ? Never hear anything about them. I think that rhythm guitar might be an EPIPHONE ? http://www3.telus.net/public/lake_r/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The picture below shows him today with a STRINGMASTER. [This message was edited by George Keoki Lake on 16 September 2006 at 10:34 PM.]
Steinar Gregertsen Member From: Arendal, Norway	posted 16 September 2006 08:21 PM profile edit quote: I wonder where S and J are today ? Johnny is still active - - according to this website. Steinar ------------------ "Play to express, not to impress" www.gregertsen.com Southern Moon Northern Lights
Jim Ives Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA	posted 16 September 2006 10:12 PM profile send email edit What a great thing, our compter. I just got back from a week's travelling with no acccess: I turned on my computer and watched an old Santo & Johnny recording I've never seen. Very cool. Johnny looked a bit anxious, but Santo was definetly grooving. Good one to share with us. Jim ------------------ Mullen D-10 -or- Zum D-10 Little Roy Wiggins S-8 lap steel Fulltone Full-Drive II Holy Grail reverb RV-3 Vox wah-wah/volume pedal Peavey Nashville 1000 -or- 112
Garry Vanderlinde Member From: Garden Grove, California, USA	posted 16 September 2006 10:19 PM profile send email edit Dig Santos' leg action...he's the "Elvis of Steel" -very [This message was edited by Garry Vanderlinde on 16 September 2006 at 10:20 PM.]
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed U.S.A Dodger Blue Forever 16th Miracle U.S.A.	posted 17 September 2006 04:03 AM profile edit My Canadien buddy writes, and I quote him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would NEVER doubt Jody, (sacriligeous)....however I have the identical guitar. He is playing a CUSTOM on that clip. Sorry Jody, I bow down to you in reverance....please forgive...ok ? You are thou forgiven my good friend, sometimes I am wrong at least you can spell (sacriligeous) and that's good enough for me. Thanks pal no problem.
Derrick Mau Member From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA	posted 17 September 2006 10:12 AM profile send email edit Jody, you may be right. If you look on the original "Sleepwalk" LP cover I have here, it's a Stringmaster. In this YouTube performance, yes, it's a Custom. What we all have to remember is: Serious steelers all have more than one steel guitar in their possession and any one of them at any time could have been used on-stage or in the recording studio. This YouTube video confirms one long debated mystery though: Sleepwalk was played using just one tuning even though he had access to two other necks.
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed U.S.A Dodger Blue Forever 16th Miracle U.S.A.	posted 17 September 2006 01:19 PM profile edit Derrick, you are right, it is a Custom. I spoke with Johnny earlier today he told me the very first steel guitar that Santo owned was a Double neck Gibson.
-�ystein R�ysi Member From: Trondheim, Norway	posted 17 September 2006 01:28 PM profile send email edit I realize I'm a bit late,but I really want to say WOW! That's beautiful! I hope you can forgive a newbie, but I'm wondering; would this song be possible to learn for someone who has just started playing steel? I haven't played enough yet to be able to determine how difficult a steel guitar part is, just from hearing it... Thanks for sharing the song, and thanks to Michael for sharing the tuning! ------------------ Cheers, �ystein Gold Tone Solid Spruce Weissenborn (D) National Dynamic (A6) Fender SRV Strat Ayers Acoustic Koch Twintone II
Bill Quinn Member From: Minnesota, USA	posted 17 September 2006 02:16 PM profile send email edit Say is there a way to save these YouTube clips to your computer or can you only view them on YouTube??
Kenneth Berrier Member From: Mount Airy, NC	posted 17 September 2006 03:05 PM profile edit If you're using Mozilla's Firefox browser you can download the 'videodownloader' extentsion which downloads them in the .flv format. You will also need to get the FLV player. Which I beleive they supply a link to. [This message was edited by Kenneth Berrier on 17 September 2006 at 03:12 PM.]
Michael Scdoris Member From: San Francisco, Ca.	posted 17 September 2006 04:25 PM profile send email edit Oystein: The melody is really very simple to follow.There are versions on the forum for C6. The best version that I have seen is from Herb Steiner. You can get a CD, and tabs for E9, C6, and of course C#m. The hard part is to recreate the sound that Santo produced. I am also quite new and play this song fifty time a day.
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA	posted 17 September 2006 07:35 PM profile send email edit This song lays out easily in C#m7 and is very easy to play note for note on a 6 string. I tabbed it out by hand and put drum notation under the tab notes to help with the phrasing. As soon as my room mate gets back, I'll have her post it for me. [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 17 September 2006 at 07:35 PM.]
Ron Whitfield Member From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA	posted 17 September 2006 10:02 PM profile send email edit The person that posted the Sleepwalk video on youtube has many other interesting vids, including one of Rudy Wairata doing a march with some cool pics of him.
-�ystein R�ysi Member From: Trondheim, Norway	posted 18 September 2006 12:35 AM profile send email edit Thanks guys for the encouragement! I'll try retuning my National to C#m and see what I can manage... The song is so beautiful! And eventhough it's probably been played to death in the past, it's new to me... ------------------ Cheers, �ystein Gold Tone Solid Spruce Weissenborn (D) National Dynamic (A6) Fender SRV Strat Ayers Acoustic Koch Twintone II
Roman Sonnleitner Member From: Vienna, Austria	posted 18 September 2006 02:14 AM profile send email edit Bill, about saving YouTube-videos: go to www.youtubex.com - it's all explained there. [This message was edited by Roman Sonnleitner on 18 September 2006 at 02:14 AM.]

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