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Jay Johnson Member From: Ukiah, CA, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 03:09 PM
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Hi All, My band, Swift Kick, is playing after the Brooks & Dunn show on Sept. 8th at Konocti Harbor Resort in Kelseyville CA. and I'm looking for either a pedal steel player or a fiddle player who can play with us cold, no rehearsals. We're doing about half country (mostly newer) and the other half country rock/honkytonk. It'll be a fun show. It's 9pm-1:30am and I can pay $75 and a shared room at the resort. Brooks & Dunn will sell out a 5000 seater so it should be a big show. I have set lists available. If anyone is interested or knows of anyone please email me. Thanks |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 03:14 PM
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You're playing for 5,000 people and $75 is all it pays!  Things must be really tough in California!  |
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Jay Johnson Member From: Ukiah, CA, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 03:25 PM
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This is one of those exposure gigs and of course Brooks and Dunn are getting con$$iderably more expo$$ure than we are. I don't think I'd be out there playing if I were trying to get rich though. Jay |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 03:48 PM
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One of the bands I play with opened for Alabama at the Texas State Fair a couple years ago. We got $1500 and I thought we were underpaid. Maybe not. |
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Jay Johnson Member From: Ukiah, CA, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 03:57 PM
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You sound like my wife.  I know, we play better paying gigs than this also, but this is what this gig is. Now, I'm hoping merchandise sales will be good. Jay |
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Danny Naccarato Member From: Ft. Worth, Texas US |
posted 26 August 2002 03:59 PM
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Exposure? You can die from exposure!!! That is pretty cheap... |
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David Wright Member From: Modesto .Ca USA. |
posted 26 August 2002 04:11 PM
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try to live on Exposure, were you gona go with this exposure?? i would like to do this job, but let me see, 5 hrs to job, I drive a F-250 V-10, shared room, I buy food, but the kicker is a fiddle player can do the job same as steel, I don't think so, they do work cheaper  Ok let the fiddle player have it..------------------ Sierra S-12 9&7 |
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Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 26 August 2002 04:15 PM
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No it ain't the highest-paying gig but I'm sure I remember last December a post where Paul Franklin said he did a couple gigs around Thankgiving and Christmas, one payed him $45 and the other $75... |
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Dr. Hugh Jeffreys Member From: Southaven, MS, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 06:49 PM
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"Star" artists pay $1000.00 per gig ($1K) for a steel man. I am seeking no employment of any kind, but it's a shame to go to all the trouble you do: all the years it took to "get good," travel to gig; set up; play; tolerate the audience (in some cases); pack up travel or get a hotel! Wow! Garbage collectors make more! If I were in that position, I'd get something on the side and play only when one could afford me. HJ |
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Gary Carriger Member From: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 06:50 PM
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Come on guys, quit slamming Jay. He posts on here offering work - and you act if you are insulted. If you don't want the gig, then don't reply. It's that simple. Gary
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Marc Friedland Member From: Vallejo, CA |
posted 26 August 2002 07:35 PM
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Jay, I sent you an email. -- Marc |
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Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
posted 26 August 2002 07:52 PM
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Sorry for butting in, my bad! |
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Jeff Watson Member From: Henderson, NV. USA |
posted 27 August 2002 12:05 AM
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Hey Jay, thanks for the offer. If I was anywhere near you I'd be on it. I certainly understand why alot of players would'nt be interested, but the only reason I went to all the trouble to try to "get good" was so I could play. Thanks again. |
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Dr. Hugh Jeffreys Member From: Southaven, MS, USA |
posted 27 August 2002 07:00 AM
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My apologies!! To each his own! - HJ |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 27 August 2002 10:44 AM
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This gig is Sunday night, after the concert. I think it's more like your typical casino gig. The money is about right, IMHO. I'd do it if it wasn't Sunday. That's just too late for me - I crash early on Sunday. ------------------ |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 27 August 2002 02:09 PM
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Jay....this will teach you the audacity of offering someone a job......apparently everyone is turning down work on a regular basis..... Don't let it discourage you my friend..... www.genejones.com |
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Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 27 August 2002 02:37 PM
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And to think, all these years I've been working for less than $1000 a gig! Boy, do I feel stupid! |
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Michael Holland Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 27 August 2002 02:48 PM
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I'm just glad to know that I can be a part of an industry so consistent that I'm still making the same money I made in 1977. |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 27 August 2002 08:00 PM
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Where can you make what you made in 1977? |
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Gary Walker Member From: Morro Bay, CA |
posted 27 August 2002 08:21 PM
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I don't think we took up this instrument for the big bucks we planned to make but for the sheer love of this very selfish, possessive man-made four-legged Rube Goldberg contraption that has competed for the honor in causing more divorces than Jim Beam. Seventy five is more money than staying home for nothing and watching TV Land. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 28 August 2002 10:04 AM
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I wasn't making $75 per gig in 1977. It was more like $40 for local gigs. $75 plus lodging isn't bad for this part of the country. It's about par. I'd do it if I didn't have to go to work on Monday. Find anyone yet, Jay? ------------------ |
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Jay Johnson Member From: Ukiah, CA, USA |
posted 28 August 2002 01:53 PM
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I think I've decided to do this one myself. I did get a couple responses but I do understand that it's not much money. It just means that I have to work that much harder switching between my tele and the pedal steel along with singing lead and backups. I can do it but it's a lot of work. Hey, all you high rollers out there. If you need a lead guitar/pedal steel/trumpet player/singer, I'll take all the $1000 gigs you can send my way. Thanks |
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Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
posted 28 August 2002 09:52 PM
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Seventy five bucks? This has got to be a joke! |
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Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 29 August 2002 06:04 AM
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Here we go again... |
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Michael Holland Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 29 August 2002 06:46 AM
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Jay, I feel bad now about the remarks I made regarding the gig. I do work for $75 and less locally and if I was in your area I would be honored to work with you as well. I guess I'm just frustrated that old ex-touring pros like me can no longer make a living in the biz. |
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Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
posted 29 August 2002 08:44 AM
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People who work for that kind of money just drag things down for everyone else. Go back and DEMAND $1000.00 for the band. If they won't pay, walk away. Are you that desperate?This kind of behavior is just hurting musicians. We just opened for Mark Wills two weeks ago. I made $150.00. I wouldn't have done it for less. |
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Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA |
posted 29 August 2002 08:56 AM
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Good grief guys. All Jay wanted to know was if anyone was interested in the gig. All you have to do is respectfully decline or not post a response. I personally wouldn't do it because it's in California. I'm sure Jay was realistically expecting a response from someone in that area. If I'm not booked on any particular weekend and someone needs help, knowing it doesn't pay much, but it was close and I could hang out back stage, maybe party a bit, I would do it. Especially if it helps out a friend. I'll bet most of you guys doing the flame throwing, don't make more than 100-150 bucks for the average gig anyway. That's about the going rate, and 75 bucks is not an insult. To me anyway. Lighten up already. Geeeesh! |
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Jay Johnson Member From: Ukiah, CA, USA |
posted 29 August 2002 09:57 AM
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Again thanks for all the responses. Just to clarify, I understand the concept of dragging prices down in music. I made a living doing music for 15 years. I now do the gigs I want to do and don't rely on this business for my primary income. This gig is a favor for the owner and it pays $600 for one night. An 'extra help' position so to speak, is around $100 after expenses. $2500+ is the going rate for this band for other functions. I'm sorry if I insulted anyone, but I'm glad I got my feet wet in this community. Hope to see you around. Thanks |
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Gil Berry Member From: Westminster, CA, USA |
posted 29 August 2002 10:43 PM
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Yup, I've worked gigs for a lot less. And also worked in some really shabby beer joints for a lot more. But, did you ever stop to consider what it would cost just to RENT and TRANSPORT your equipment for a one-nighter? If you only made that back, throwing in your time FOR FREE wouldn't be such an insult. Ahh, the woes of a musician. |
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Danny Naccarato Member From: Ft. Worth, Texas US |
posted 29 August 2002 11:04 PM
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Chris is right here, in as much as helping out a friend, etc. Hell, I've filled in for people before when they were sick, etc. and refused any pay, period. Jay's last post clarified it a bit, and makes more sense. My initial reaction, as others probably, was it appeared to be a "high profile, big money" gig, yet they were squeezing the "other" band for peanuts,with the guise of it being an "exposure" deal. How many times has that happened to any of us? But as Chris said, if I lived nearby, and it was helping someone out, plus the room, and who knows what else, it's a different story. I think, in my opinion, Chris is dead-on here. |
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Gary Goodman Member From: Covina, California, USA |
posted 31 August 2002 10:52 PM
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I get $40 - $50 usually somtimes a $100 gig comes along But I am working with a six piece band and we work almost every weekend doing American Legion, Moose lodges, Elks and VFW clubs. I work a full time job and my music pays for the for my instruments and amps and such plus pays for gas etc. I also do a lot of freebees Benifits and such. just a few weeks ago I did a benifit and J D M and Al Bruno were there picking too. If I depended on the Steel for my living I might feel different, but to me it is relaxing thing. |
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