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Topic: MSA WebSite"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TS MCDONALD
Member From: Arlington, Texas USA
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posted 13 June 2002 02:50 PM
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If anyone has not visited the "New""MSA WebSite" this Afternoon, may I suggest that you really should "Take-A-View"!!!! "KowaBonga", Captain!!!!! Thanks, www.msapedalsteels.com
TsP.S. aka "PostScript"!!!!!
Today, Friday, 06-28-2002, I was with "My Mentor, aka "Reece" Anderson". I played and listened to Reece play the "New MSA Millennium", and I was totally in Awe of the "Tone and Sustain (Absolutely breathtaking), Smoothness of the Playing Action of the Guitar, Pedals, Knee Levers, etc. and the ability of the Guitar to be completely Stable
when playing it!!!!! As Richard from Boston so aptly stated, "You simply must hear and play this MSA Millennium to enjoy the excellent craftsmanship of this finely crafted Instrument, because the "Pictures" are great, but the Guitar, in person, is even more beautiful to See and Hear!!!!! ------------------
Ts  [This message was edited by TS MCDONALD on 13 June 2002 at 03:23 PM.] [This message was edited by TS MCDONALD on 28 June 2002 at 11:36 AM.]
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Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 13 June 2002 03:23 PM
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http://www.msapedalsteels.com/ Very nice photos and a mostly "conventional" looking steel! From my first glance through the website, I see some neat features, modular pickups with a cover blended into the neck, different way of attaching the pedal bar, square stainless steel cross shafts, guide slots instead of holes for the pull rods, etc.  I do see some things that I either don't care for or would take some getting used to though.  The 3D fretboards look like they would gather and hold a lot of dust. The neck switch is mounted on the rear of the back neck and has a center-off instead of a center-on switch. The pullers only have four holes. I don't see any split-tuner screws at the changer. The guitar has in-line ball joints with thumb wheels at the top of the pedal rods for height adustment - I'd be worried that they would move on their own. Over all though, it's quite a stunning looking instrument. |
smike
Member From: oakland, ca
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posted 13 June 2002 03:47 PM
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wow... looks great. how much?also, isn't that fingerboard going to collect dust over time? or are those sections not as recessed as they look? bruce
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Kyle Bennett
Member From: Dallas, TX USA
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posted 13 June 2002 04:39 PM
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Jim,
The 3-D fret pools are manufactured using an anti-static material. The frets are not that deep and we have not had any problem with dust. The bank switch can be wired either way, both on or both off (your choice). The pullers are also available with 5 slots (not photographed). The pedal adjustment knob has built in friction and will not move unless you move it! Split tuners also were not photographed.Kyle
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Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 13 June 2002 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the update Kyle. That's interesting about the bank switch, I've never had any luck rewiring a center-on to be center-off or vice verse. As the split tuners are not on the photographed guitar, I assume the guitar is a prototype, which is even more impressive. |
Doyle Huff
Member From: Broken Arrow, OK USA
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posted 13 June 2002 04:57 PM
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The 3-d fret board were more or less std on the Sho-Bud guitars. I have them on my Super-pro and have a little trouble with dust but a paint brush will clean them right up. Also the boards were not made from anti-static material. Just a personel thing, but I like the 3-d over the flat fret board. I'm not sure I like the black legs but I bet you could get std legs if you wanted them. Of course that adds to the weight. Good looking axe. |
Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 13 June 2002 05:54 PM
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The ShoBud 3-D fret board is my favorite fretboard.
Never noticed a dust problem with it.
The MSA's pedal height adjustment looks like a great innovation. http://www.msapedalsteels.com/html/puller_view.html http://www.msapedalsteels.com/assets/images/Mill7.jpg
How do they paint the letters on the underside with all those rods in the way???
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Gordon Robison
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posted 13 June 2002 06:58 PM
Long, Long, Long Overdue!!!!!!!!------------------
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smike
Member From: oakland, ca
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posted 13 June 2002 08:27 PM
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i'm still not sure about the fretboard/dust issue, but...those kind of look like the old msa nut rollers to me... if this is truly a state-of-the-art steel, how come it doesn't have ball-bearing nut rollers to eliminate any possible hysteresis? or are they there but hard to see in the pictures? thanks,
bruce
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Kyle Bennett
Member From: Dallas, TX USA
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posted 13 June 2002 09:10 PM
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Bruce,
The nut rollers and pull pins are made from a medical grade stainless that doesn’t require lubrication. No bearings needed on Millennium’s nut rollers.
Kyle
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Doug Earnest
Member From: Branson, MO USA
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posted 14 June 2002 07:47 AM
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Well, it looks good to me like I was sure it would. I like the pedal board clip thing.Have I missed the sound bite ? It would be nice to hear a direct comparison of a vintage MSA and the new one in a sound clip. They are probably working on one. I would like to hear the same thing played on the two guitars, same amp settings, same player etc. Just curious. Congratulations to MSA, I hope everything works out. Like they say, no guts no glory. ------------------
Doug Earnest
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CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 14 June 2002 09:04 AM
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Congratulations MSA !
Steel glad to see ya'back...  |
Marco Schouten
Member From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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posted 14 June 2002 10:15 AM
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A modern guitar like this begs for an advanced gearless tuner. Just my opinion.------------------
Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
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smike
Member From: oakland, ca
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posted 14 June 2002 10:40 AM
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kyle -thanks for the response. still... how much? it would be kind of nice to know how many guitars i would have to sell to get one! thanks,
bruce l.
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Brad Burch
Member From: Athens, Ga USA
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posted 14 June 2002 02:06 PM
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Prices as listed. If someone gets a chance to play one, please post your comments:
Double 10 with 8 pedals and 5 knee levers $5995.00 Single 12 with 8 pedals and 5 knee levers $5495.00 Single 10 with 3 pedals and 5 knee levers, on dbl frame $4795.00 Single 10 with 3 pedals and 5 knee levers $4295.00 Each additional pedal or knee lever $200.00 |
Martin Abend
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posted 14 June 2002 03:41 PM
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...a S-10 Anapeg would be less expensive AFAIK... But you'd have to wait longer...Though I most problably will never be able to afford a new MSA I wish you all the best and God's rich blessings. |
richard burton
Member From: Britain
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posted 15 June 2002 12:54 AM
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From looking at the pics, is the neck a folded piece of aluminium, similar to Carter design? It's not my favorite feature on a steel guitar. Maybe the carbon fibre body is strong enough not to need a cast neck? |
Kyle Bennett
Member From: Dallas, TX USA
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posted 15 June 2002 04:59 AM
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Richard,
The necks on Millennium are not folded or cast. They are machined from aluminum billet. However, Millennium's strength is not relying on the necks. The strength and stability are in the carbon composite body.
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Johan Jansen
Member From: Europe
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posted 15 June 2002 09:58 AM
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I have seen Fender custom shop 6 strings for even more money. Quality has it's price.
I surely hope the MSA proves it's quality, in sound durability and service.
C'mon guys, give it a chance!!!!!
JJ |
Doug Seymour
Member From: Jamestown NY USA
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posted 16 June 2002 03:58 PM
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So what's the matter with black legs?? There are lots of nice looking black legs!! You guys are all alike....the keyless don't look like a steel guitar should look.....they shouldn't have black legs & on & on! Come on!
It's how they sound & play that really makes any difference! or have I missed something in all these years?? |
Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 17 June 2002 12:56 PM
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An S10 Anapeg would not be less expensive |
Rick Collins
Member From: Claremont , CA USA
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posted 17 June 2002 01:43 PM
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quote:
So what's the matter with black legs??
Nothing Doug, some people like caviar, some like peanut butter, some like both. Personally, between the two, I'll choose peanut butter everytime. And caviar is much more expensive and prefered by those with more discriminating taste. As you may have noticed, MSA is offering a multitude of colors, on the guitar and the legs. This is a good thing;___people's taste vary widely.
quote:
It's how they sound & play that really makes any difference!
No, it is not. At least those are not the only factors. The second most expensive thing most people buy (the automobile second to their home) has a new style almost every year. To say that design doesn't matter for musical instruments, simply is not so. quote:
or have I missed something in all these years??
You have. I'm not attempting to be a smarty, Doug; but believe me, design is a very important factor for steel guitars.Rick
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Doug Seymour
Member From: Jamestown NY USA
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posted 17 June 2002 05:59 PM
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Once again......too soon old, too late smart!
Oh, dear, (sigh) |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 25 June 2002 11:37 PM
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I'm confused.  When we're talking "design"...are we talking appearance or engineering? |
Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 26 June 2002 05:37 AM
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Yes. |
Reggie Duncan
Member From: Mississippi
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posted 26 June 2002 06:56 AM
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How much are the caps? |
Frank Parish
Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA
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posted 26 June 2002 03:55 PM
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Definitely beautiful guitar but how many of us can afford it? I'm not sure of the Franklins these days but I'd have to wait for a used one. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 26 June 2002 07:33 PM
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As someone already said, there are more expensive steels to be had. No, they're not cheap, but remember...it's very new technology. Those who want one will find a way to afford it. |
Chuck Martin
Member From: Mc Lean, Virginia
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posted 26 June 2002 09:33 PM
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I'm a long time player and fan of MSA but like everyone else I'm reserving final judgement until I have a chance to see, hear, touch, taste and smell one! I've read all the comments about black legs versus chrome and carbon fiber versus wood and on and on. The important thing is how does it sound and play? The reduced weight has got to appeal to the aging core of steel players out there. At 47 I'm now looking for a lighter solution to give my back a break as well. New technology is always scoffed at. This is the same kind of skepticism I remember when tennis rackets first switched from wood to metal then to carbon fiber! Its hard to part with tradition but time and technology march on.  [This message was edited by Chuck Martin on 26 June 2002 at 09:34 PM.] |
Andy Greatrix
Member From: Edmonton Alberta
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posted 26 June 2002 09:47 PM
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I've had a chance to play a Parker "Fly" six string guitar that has a body made from graphite and carbon fibers, with a foam core, and it sounds sweet and very even in its' tone. I hope the MSA sounds as good.[This message was edited by Andy Greatrix on 26 June 2002 at 09:48 PM.] |
TS MCDONALD
Member From: Arlington, Texas USA
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posted 28 June 2002 11:43 AM
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"Bump Please"!!!!!------------------
Ts |
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