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Roger Andrusky
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From: Waterford, PA, USA

posted 27 August 2002 01:47 PM     profile     
I was at the Herby Wallace/Steel Jam last Sunday and heard a guy make his Kline sound like a real Dobro (or at least very close). He changed bars but I don't see how that would have given him that sound. I didn't get a chance to ask him. Anyone know this trick? - Roger
Jim Smith
Member

From: Plano, TX, USA

posted 27 August 2002 01:55 PM     profile     
Goodrich MatchBro.
autry andress
Member

From: Plano, Tx.

posted 27 August 2002 02:06 PM     profile     
If it sounded like the real thing it was probably the Super bro by goodrich.
Sure beats carrying a dobro.
Steel guitar Nashville has'em{pictures too}.
Good luck.

[This message was edited by autry andress on 28 August 2002 at 01:03 PM.]

Gene Jones
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From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 27 August 2002 02:18 PM     profile     
It sounds authentic enough that the blue-grass bands that appear on our show regularly ask me to stay on stage and set-in with them. That's a good enough indorsement for the "Super-Bro" for me! www.genejones.com

[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 27 August 2002 at 02:19 PM.]

BobbeSeymour
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From: Hendersonville TN USA

posted 27 August 2002 02:23 PM     profile     
We stock this unit, however money is a little on the "much" side. It does have some great advantages though over a real dobro: easier to carry, easier to "Tune", easier to mic., etc, It's a pretty great unit. Doesn't look as good as a real dobro though.
Bobbe
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Samuel E. White
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From: Greeneville TN.

posted 27 August 2002 05:57 PM     profile     
I have Dobro in my Pro Fex II and it sounds pretty close.
Sam White
Don Olson
Member

From: Muscatine,Ia. USA

posted 27 August 2002 06:07 PM     profile     
When you play with the Dobro effect you have to think Dobro not pedal steel.
Zumsteel Don
Quesney Gibbs
Member

From: Anniston, AL

posted 28 August 2002 02:08 AM     profile     
If the steeler changed bars he is likely to be using an old trick that I use even to this day.

Saw off the top few inches (about the length of your bar) of your wife's broom handle (unpainted of course) and you have instant dobro.

I learned this little trick from a New Orleans player named Earl Ortega before all the gadgets came into being.

Try it....

Ques

[This message was edited by Quesney Gibbs on 28 August 2002 at 02:10 AM.]

David Decker
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From: Canton, Ohio, USA

posted 28 August 2002 03:02 AM     profile     
It was a goodrich MatchBro that I used last Sunday.
Roger Andrusky
Member

From: Waterford, PA, USA

posted 28 August 2002 04:23 AM     profile     
Cool! Sounds like the broomstick idea may be cheaper, though.

David, I didn't get a chance to talk to you - I was, and am, fighting an upper respiratory infection so I couldn't stick around long. Totally, totally enjoyed your pickin! Thanks for coming the distance! - Roger

BobG
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From: Holmdel, NJ

posted 28 August 2002 06:09 AM     profile     
quote:
Saw off the top few inches (about the length of your bar) of your wife's broom handle

Hey Quesney! I took your advise and asked my wife if I could have her broom......
She told me "where I could stick it".
...I wonder what offended her ?

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Bob Grado, Williams D10 (lefty), Peavey 1000,
Profex ll.

[This message was edited by BobG on 28 August 2002 at 06:09 AM.]

Jim Vogan
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From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874

posted 28 August 2002 06:35 AM     profile     
I may be able to salvage part of the handle. My wife wrecked hers. Hope she doesn't see this post!

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Jim Vogan Emmons Sd10 Stereo steel Amp

David Decker
Member

From: Canton, Ohio, USA

posted 28 August 2002 06:43 AM     profile     
Roger, thanks for the kind words. I really enjoyed the show, and the chance to play there. Like Arnold said " I'll be back"
Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 28 August 2002 08:24 AM     profile     
I have a Super Bro and get a good dobro sound out of it. As to the special bar, the Super Bro comes with a special (plastic) bar. This adds to the dobro sound. When I want the dobro sound, I turn off all effects and use a dry signal along with some dobro playing techniques.
Erv
John Lacey
Member

From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada

posted 28 August 2002 08:38 AM     profile     
Al Brisco has a SuperBro listed at $990. Canadian. I guess I won't be getting one anytime soon.
Pete Burak
Member

From: Portland, OR USA

posted 28 August 2002 08:43 AM     profile     
A Phaser or Flanger effect, set on a very slow speed, will give that broom handle an extra bumb in the "Dobro sound" direction.
Ad Kersten
Member

From: Beek en Donk, The Netherlands

posted 28 August 2002 03:17 PM     profile     
Can anyone advise me how to program a tubefex for a proper dobro sound?
Ad

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Paul Graupp
Member

From: Macon Ga USA

posted 28 August 2002 04:29 PM     profile     
AD: Here's what I have on my Tube-Fex.

TB
pre 90
pad hi
post 49
bass 40
mid 20
treb 80
pres +30
->CF
rate 0.7
depth 26%
dly 4.6ms
flange +16
mx +100
+DL
type stereo
L dly 361
L fbk 29%
R dly 361
R fbk 29%
Sim off
Mx +100
+RV
type spring
size large
P dly 30ms
time 2.9s
Damp off
MX +100
+EF
sens +0
freq 51
reson 83
type LP-slo
MX +100

I usually mute the strings with the palm of my right hand when using this program and get a resonable facsimile of a banjo.

Quesney: When John Paul Jones was still with us, we exchanged a few e-mails and one of them was on the broom handle theory. I told him, one night in France, I had a head cold and as I was using my Vicks inhaler, I noticed how much it looked like a minature bar. I used it and got the funniest sound I ever found. JPJ replied that he too used an inhaler but he said he used to dip his in hot coffee !!

Regards, Paul

[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 28 August 2002 at 05:21 PM.]

[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 28 August 2002 at 05:23 PM.]

Fred Jack
Member

From: Bay City Texas

posted 28 August 2002 05:38 PM     profile     
Paul, that old benzedrine inhaler was good too! regards, fred
Gary Walker
Member

From: Morro Bay, CA

posted 30 August 2002 03:41 PM     profile     
I use the profex ll settings in addition to using the dobro pickup from Zumsteel in front of my stock pickup.
Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 31 August 2002 10:39 AM     profile     
Two things to remember:

Take your foot off the volume pedal.

Pick harder.

No effect in the world will make you sound like a dobro if you're picking light and pumping the volume pedal.

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David Mason
Member

From: Cambridge, MD, USA

posted 03 September 2002 12:46 PM     profile     
You can get a reasonable facsimile of a slide b@njo using a piece of PVC pipe. If yoe want to get really deranged, run it through some chorus, reverb and distortion and make like Godzilla.
Bob Hayes
Member

From: Church Hill,Tenn,USA

posted 08 September 2002 06:06 PM     profile     
Quensey,
I basicly use the same thing..except from a different appliance. I was "sitting" in my "thinking Room" one day... and I saw my bathroom PLUNGER...with wood handel...And I said to my self...."That IS The Answer".so I hacked off about a 51/2" peice..and now it is with me whenever I pick..It gives a "Great" "5" Sting sound too. The picker with AJ at the OPRY last night used something .and it was a great Dobro Sound.His bar looked like one of those"Red Hot Bars".
GV

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