So far, here's what I'm thinking. Since pedal A is used often with the F lever, put the F lever into pedal 1 position. Then the A pedal next to it as pedal 2. Of course, then pedal 3 must be the B pedal. Now for pedal 4 we could either put standard pedal C or else put the D lever (E to Eb change) as pedal 4 so it can be used together with B for sevenths. That leaves the B&C combo out though. We could forget the E to Eb change and just use the 2nd string for Eb (works ok for Lloyd, eh?) and just put C next to B. Or we'd have enough pedals to replicate B all over again as pedal 5 and make pedal 6 the C pedal. So we'd have two B pedals.

As for C6, I think he could get along with standard pedals 5, 6, and 7 with something to lower his 3rd string. Obviously 5&6 have to stay together. Maybe lower the third on the 1st of the C6 pedals (whatever # that ends up being) then pedals 5, 6, and 7 in order.

I'd probably have G# to G and B to Bb in there somewhere. Put E to F# on the last pedal to get C pedal stuff.

I'd look at Sneaky Pete and Ralph Mooney's setups for other ideas, but this gets the E9 thing pretty well.

With all those pedals and no knee levers it would be a big handicap to use one foot only.
Having the E-F lever next to the A pedals might first seem ok since that is a very good sounding combination that is used a lot but problems will arrive when one tries to go from A+F to A+B or the other way around. Or when adding the E-F to A+B for an augmented chord. The use of both feet would allow for some interesting things like R.Mooney's setup or something else.

So with 10 pedals and no levers.
E9
ped1 3&6 G#-G
ped2 5&10 B-C#
ped3 3&6 G#-A
ped4 4 E-F# & 5 B-C#
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ped8 4&8 E-F
ped9 2Eb-D-C# & 9 D-C#
Ped10 4&8 E-Eb

This would make most E9 material playable.
Changes Ped8 thru ped10 can be placed next to each other if one wants the smooth shift on strings 4&8 but one would sacrifise the maximum number of useful changes.

Most ANY one who ever saw and heard Lew, will tell you he did not need any knee levers. He was THE most awesome steel player I have EVER seen; in his incredible talent of playing on only 4 pedals what most need much more to do.

His feet literally danced across all combinations of those 4 pedals with petacarpal dexterity that would make a Podiatrist stop and take a second look.

And his ability to control the volume by wrapping his right little finger around the volume control was a sight to see. If you did not see it, (but only heard it), you would swear he was using a volume pedal.

There are NO words that can tell you of this man's ability on the PSG. We have lost a truly great player; in his untimely death.

May Jesus rest Lew's soul.

Doug-You oldtimer, You very well know that us oldtimers Played for years and years without pedals, and when we got pedals, used both feet a lot.

And did not use a volume pedal. We had the volume control and tone control right on top of the guitar and used our little finger , and it worked very smooth on slow stuff. On fast stuff, you just set it and forget it, and get the Accents with your hands.
Ask Jody he knows a lot about that......al

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[This message was edited by Al Marcus on 08 September 2003 at 10:39 AM.]

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