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Topic: PROMAT demo session pictures
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Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 05 June 2004 01:24 PM
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First of all let me say thank you to all the guys who come out to try this guitar.Big thank you to my dear friend Bobbe Seymour for givin me a chanse to do this.Presentation was sucessful and guitar passed the test.It is a push pull and it does sounds like the push pull should.I`m happy to say that soon people who would like to purchase a "Promat" will be able to do so thru Steel Guitar Nashville.So if you have any questions about instrument or ordering you can now contact Bobbe at the SGN. Bobbe checking out the "Promat" we got a winner
Gary taking a ride on the brand new push pull here you can see what was "Promat" up against (the bigest selection of steel guitars I have ever seen in my life) SGN will be the ONLY place in US where you can order your custom push pull.Single neck or double,red or black,10 strings or 12,cut back or fat back...it`s up to you. Thank you very much again, SGN and Bobbe for this presentation and I guess,push pull still lives thanks to people who appreciate a good ole push pull tone. Damir |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 05 June 2004 01:58 PM
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btw Bobbe, Hans says Hi ,but he wont stay still so it`s kind of hard to get a good picture of him.I`ll take him with me next time. Hans Von Besic |
HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 05 June 2004 02:02 PM
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Will the Promat be available in a single neck crossover? |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 05 June 2004 04:10 PM
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Howard, I don`t think crossover is possible on push pull mechanism. DB |
KENNY KRUPNICK Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 05 June 2004 04:42 PM
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Hi Damir, we were just down at Bobbe's shop last week. I see Bobbe has given the new push-pull thumbs up! I enjoyed playing those Fessey's. |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 05 June 2004 04:56 PM
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Hi Kenny,if you are interested in Promat I can set up with Bobbe another presentation for you guys.I would be glad to bring guitar so you can try it.If you have never heard push pull guitar that sounds and plays better than Emmons push pull ,you need to come down here and try this one. Hope to see you guys here. Sincerely,Damir ps Fessey is a great guitar but it ain`t a push pull... [This message was edited by Damir Besic on 05 June 2004 at 04:59 PM.] |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 12:45 AM
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Me and Sheila were so blown away by the tone of this guitar today (specialy when Bobbe played it) that I got (and that never happened before)a permition from her to order another one.So I did,it will be the same set up just a diferent mica,probably some exotic wood.Pick ups are kickin some serious butt so the pick ups will be the same ,Jerry Walace "True Tones" I still have to talk to Bobbe about ordering 16,5K or 18K.We`ll see,the order is in and my next Promat is on the bench.It will be here in 5-6 months. DB[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 06 June 2004 at 04:51 AM.] |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 04:05 PM
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they will be 18K I figured out after a short conversation with a Mr.Papic |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 04:06 PM
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http://hometown.aol.com/damirzanne2/PROMAT.html few changes were made on the site ------------------ [This message was edited by Damir Besic on 06 June 2004 at 04:09 PM.] |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 04:23 PM
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the players who tried Promat so far. Mr.Dusan Papic ,owner-"Promat" company Mr.Bobbe Seymour Mr.Nick Reed Mr.Gary Sill Slobodan Papic ,fine young man and one of the Dusan`s son`s and also steel guitar player and co-maker of "Promat" and at the end , Me as a happy camper playing my guitar for the first time in Novi Sad so far,everyone who played the Promat agreed with a one thing, it does have "THAT" tone... ,some would say ,even better then "THAT" tone[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 06 June 2004 at 04:27 PM.] |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 06 June 2004 05:15 PM
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What more can be said? [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 06 June 2004 at 05:18 PM.] [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 07 June 2004 at 08:50 AM.] |
HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 06 June 2004 06:01 PM
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I noticed a little smudge on the front apron. Is that a Papic smear? edited to include the "smiley" [This message was edited by HowardR on 06 June 2004 at 06:15 PM.] |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 06:22 PM
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Howard, I would love to answer your question but I`m affraid that I don`t understand what are you talking about. DB ok,I see now,it was a joke------------------ http://hometown.aol.com/damirzanne2/PROMAT.html
[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 06 June 2004 at 06:23 PM.] |
Jerry Tillman Member From:
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posted 06 June 2004 06:30 PM
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Aren,t we suppose to refer to Bobby as DR.Seymour? Nice looking steel,has some vintage vibe going. lakeshrk |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 06:37 PM
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when I first set behind this instrument first thing I did was to unplug all the effects and matchbox and use only a reverb in the Nashville 400.Didn`t take a two notes to knock me off.I don`t know how and why is that tone there in that guitar but one thing I know,I found something that is not only the tone I was looking for,it is a tone that I never expected to find.I will not play another brand steel as long as I live.There is no better one.------------------ http://hometown.aol.com/damirzanne2/PROMAT.html
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HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 06 June 2004 07:12 PM
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Yes, just joking. A little light hearted humor. I hope that it's ok. I wish you and Mr. Papic well in your endeavor to provide a modern push pull guitar to the steel guitar community. |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 08:04 PM
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I know Howard, but Mr. Papic takes his work so seriously that he may not understand the joke and try to fix the problem even if there is none...
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Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 06 June 2004 08:12 PM
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well, the next three guitars are sold ,one is on the bench for Mr.Gary Sill ,I ordered another one and I believe Bobbe is getting one also.Now is a good time to contact Bobbe and get your order in for your own Promat.All guitars have to be ordered thru SGN and I`m not authorized dealer so all of you who sent me emails and are interested in Promat please contact Steel Guitar Nashville.Sincerely,Damir ------------------ http://hometown.aol.com/damirzanne2/PROMAT.html
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Hans Holzherr Member From: Ostermundigen, Switzerland
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posted 06 June 2004 11:19 PM
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quote: All guitars have to be ordered thru SGN
Damir and Bobbe.... what about the European market?Hans |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 08 June 2004 07:10 AM
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Yea, how 'bout that! I like it. How 'bout that Brittney Spears, Is she related to Billy Jo Spears? |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 08 June 2004 07:09 PM
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I`m going to leave all of that to Bobbe and Mr.Papic.I did my part and I have a wonderfull instrument (soon to be two).My second promat will be full-back with TT and in nice color (didn`t make up my mind yet tho) and I can`t wait to get it.I`m happy that now players who appreciate push pull tone have a chance to get a brand new guitar.So far only the all pull guys had a choice,well now we have a choice too. |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 08 June 2004 07:23 PM
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few more pictures Bobbe trying to recover from the shock (a good kind of shock tho) me enjoing every single note Bobbe: how did he do it? Damir: shut if I know yeap,it is a push pull to the bone (the holes are from the wooden necks after I changed it to aluminum) shine of a new guitar (not restored) the "tone machine" on her back... thank you very much to Mr. Gary Sill for the photos and congratulations on your order for your new "Promat" Sincerely,Damir[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 08 June 2004 at 07:29 PM.] |
Nick Reed Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 08 June 2004 07:40 PM
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I've played this Guitar and it's everything Damir said it is. Maybe Damir can bring the "Promat" to St. Louis so some of you other guys can play it. Thanks again Damir for letting me try it out!Nick |
Marco Schouten Member From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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posted 08 June 2004 09:50 PM
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Does Mr. Papic also make laquer bodies?------------------ Steelin' Greetings Marco Schouten Sho-Bud LLG; Guyatone 6 string lap steel; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Evans SE200 amp
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jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont
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posted 09 June 2004 02:36 AM
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does he make 12 stringers, are the fretboards in chrome, can I get two of them for my Emmons? Is that a sign Bobbe likes it, or did someone ask him what type of thumbpick he is using? Is he tuning the E to F half stop in pic one?[This message was edited by jim milewski on 09 June 2004 at 02:39 AM.] |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 09 June 2004 05:03 AM
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Damir,This is an amazing guitar. Have you any idea of the price. This actual price will determine for most of us whether the Promat will remain another unattainable dream, or become a realistic possibilty. |
C Dixon Member From: Duluth, GA USA
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posted 09 June 2004 05:31 AM
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Ok, So what would an 8 X 5 cost? carl |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 09 June 2004 08:09 AM
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I'm hoping and expecting the prices to be in line with domesic steels, in the 3K range. Delivery time may be a little long at first, but well worth the wait. This steel is truly unbelievable. There will be no lacquar body guitars to my knowledge. It's a tone thing. bobbe |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 09 June 2004 07:02 PM
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Nick,thank you for coming out and trying Promat.Thanks again to Gary Sill and also Bobbe Seymour.I tought something wasn`t right when I first heard this guitar,I never expected to hear steel that would suprise me with its tone,but this one did.And only after seeing Nick,Gary and Bobbe play it I realized that this was not just my imagination,the best sounding steel I have ever heard in my entire live was in front of me and the best thing is ,it`s mine.To tell you the truth I don`t realy care if anyone else buys it or not,I know I found my guitar (two of them... )that I`m going to stick with for a long ,long time. |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 09 June 2004 07:52 PM
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Nice to see another non-space age addition.It's nice to see "old world" craftsmanship represented, and an "old style system" brought back. Especially one that was tried and true. You can bet this guy didn't do his figgering on how much he could get away with his bottom line profit being, and how cheaply he could get parts, or mass produced cabinets jobbed out. Like others, if well built, they will survive individually. Sho~Bud only had to build ONE ProIII to provide me with a quarter century of steady work. Hopefully Duane Marrs rebuild of my only other Sho~Bud will finish off the rest. Fessy, Zum, Mullen, Williams, Fulkawa, and a few others have been doing this, and have assured us that these quality pieces will be around ten times longer than the mass produced, space age pretenders. You know, I'll bet his motivation for building them is that he loves to.. Fancy that.. EJL |
Gary Sill Member From: Mt. Zion, IL, USA
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posted 09 June 2004 10:43 PM
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Thank you Damir for the opportunity to have crossed paths with this wonderful steel through the wonderful place in Nashville, called Bobbe Seymours Steel Guitar Nashville. We each played the instrument after Damir brought it from the case and we hooked it up and "that sound" appeared only on steroids---everyone just was amazed when bobbe played and all the individual strings rang with such separate colored tone with overtones galore. It seemed like you wanted to find the next chord or combination of strings and then it surprised you with the sound. Played true, played like a good push pull should. Was made by a craftsman who cares and obviously takes his time to make it right. We examined it thoroughly, you thought you had went back in time and pulled a new Emmons Push Pull out of the case, parts look the same, sound is even better than I could imagine it to be. The pedals pushed solid, not too hard(I need them to push softer with my foot problem). Yes, a new Push pull era is upon us. Yes, its made overseas, by a man who apparently understands, and knows when he hears "that sound" that just makes sweet tone one note at a time. No need for two strings, one just does so much when its push pull---its overtones are just amazing. I'm not an A player, but at least I feel like one when I play this instrument. I couldn't resist, I knew I had to have "that sound". Thanks Damir and Bobbe from Gary |
jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont
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posted 10 June 2004 04:18 AM
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I find this very interesting, would this guitar be possible if Reagan didn't get the "wall" down, where is the guitar made? The detailed pics, the comments from the players (just Bobbe alone is enough for me), Gary's comment about "just one note", the looks of the guitar, this is no joke, this is better than Triumphs new Thruxton Bonneville! |
Nick Reed Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 10 June 2004 04:40 PM
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Eric West, You hit the nail on the head Man! I'm glad to see an old/classic P/P system still an available option if the customer wants it. I like P\P's (I've got three). Thought for a long time that Emmons should go back to making special order P\P's. I think theres a potential market for these guitars. Speaking about new age guitars. I wonder if the carbon-composite bodies will be a new standard or a passing fad. I relize I'm old fashioned but I just think you need good aged Maple to get a tone. Time will tell. Nick |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 10 June 2004 07:55 PM
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Hi Nick,how about 30 year old maple.. aged naturaly.You`ll get one ,I can already see you behind one.Gary,thanks for the kind words.First three are sold and in the process of making ,and one of these is yours buddy.DB |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 10 June 2004 08:15 PM
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Eric you are so right my friend.No cheap parts to be found on this instrument.Only the best material for the best guitar with a best tone... speachless
playing wooden neck D-10 Promat that was made for a player in Slovenia yeah baby,yeah ,sing it to dady me acting like I know what Mr.Papic is saying about a push pull Promat[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 10 June 2004 at 08:19 PM.] |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 11 June 2004 06:04 PM
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I can vouch for everything Damir has said. This guitar is better than anything I've seen yet for tone. Everything else about this steel is incredible also. The weight, craftsmanship,fit and finish etc., "old world craftsmanship" was the phrase I liked. Yes, I'll take aged maple over anything I've ever seen yet. Or heard yet! I guess A. Stradivarious knew something about tone. Wonder where he got his maple,,,,,,,, bobbe |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 11 June 2004 08:25 PM
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didn`t I mentioned before,Mr.Papic also made a violin that sounds better than....oh well...just kiddin`.. |
Reggie Duncan Member From: Mississippi
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posted 12 June 2004 06:41 AM
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Bet the fiddle was Push Pull! Push the bow, then pull it back! Seriously, I would love to play this Promat!! |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 12 June 2004 01:43 PM
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I am a tall dude so I needed extentions for my guitar.One email to Mr.Papic and here we go. Promat extentions Reggie,you can place your order anytime at Steel Guitar Nashville.Everything is still kind of new but it will become a routine pretty soon. Damir[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 12 June 2004 at 01:45 PM.] |
jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont
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posted 13 June 2004 04:34 PM
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one theory they had about Strats violins, was that the maple was floated in the ocean to get to it's destination and the salt created little porous cells in the wood, should we get an unfinished guitar and spray it with salt water daily, I dunno |