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Topic: PSG Top Thickness
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Doyle Huff
Member From: Broken Arrow, OK USA
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posted 18 January 2005 08:46 PM
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I would like to know the thickness of the top for a 12 string. The one I built is .750 and I think that is too thick for the top to resonate correctly. The top on my Sho-Bud D10 is .500. Anybody have any input? How about you Ricky Davis?
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Doug Seymour
Member From: Jamestown NY USA
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posted 19 January 2005 07:55 PM
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are you saying that a S12 has a different thickness than S10 or even a D10? Are we talking about the neck (fretboard) or the deck it sits on? My 1984 Zum had a 5/8" thick deck with the front neck deck being 1/4" higher. A quarter inch step, in other words. My old ShoBud crossover, I believe had a 3/4" step & I suppose the decks were 3/4" thick.....guess I never measured them? |
Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 19 January 2005 10:16 PM
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It has been my experience that they run between 3/8" up to 1" with the most common dimensions being 1/2" and 5/8". |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 19 January 2005 11:41 PM
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Doyle the top wood thickness of the big body Sho~Bud's; are 3/4" thick and the aprons are 5/8".
I don't know what a 12 string Sho~bud is; I haven't one here; and if your D-10 sho~bud is 1/2" top deck; than that has to be a later model Sho~bud(I lost interest there..ha).
Of course my favorite Sho~bud body is the Big body round front and they seem to ring just fine with 3/4" top deck maple and 5/8" aprons.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 19 January 2005 at 11:47 PM.] |
Doyle Huff
Member From: Broken Arrow, OK USA
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posted 23 January 2005 01:09 PM
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Thanks for the replies fellows. It makes me wonder what the true cause of my problem really is. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 23 January 2005 02:45 PM
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If the screws holding the neck to the body are too tight, it tends to kill the top's resonance. You might try loosening them a little. The same goes for any screws going into the top of the guitar (the ones that hold knee-lever brackets and such). Make them no tighter than necessary. |
Steven Welborn
Member From: Ojai,CA USA
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posted 23 January 2005 05:41 PM
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Ricky, Are both necks 3/4" ? Other words, the underside steps along with the top ? |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 23 January 2005 08:53 PM
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Steve; of course I'm not talking about the necks; but if I understand what I think your asking> yes the top section of the body is 3/4" and the lower section is 3/4" and the step on top is 3/4" and the step underneath is 3/4"(on the big body sho~bud).
Doyle; if you are wondering why the pedal steel you built doesn't resonate like you would like, is because of the thickness of the wood or what kind of wood? That is a small part of the total sustaining equation.
The start of the sound; starts with the movement of the string(s); so what is the string vibrating on; and then what is that made out of; then what is it mounted to and how is it mounted; then what is pulling that and how is the pulling system mounted and what is that made of and what is it mounted to; and finally what is the microphone(pickup)used to amplificate the sound?
That is a round about proceedure in what makes the sound and what it will sound/resonate like.
So you can see that the wood and how thick it is; is a small portion of the total equation.
Donny of course gives a great piece of advice in helping the resonace of part of the equation.
Ricky |
Tony Smart
Member From: Harlow. Essex. England
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posted 24 January 2005 02:33 PM
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Ricky - Whats your opinion on the question of screw tightness and sustain? |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 24 January 2005 05:05 PM
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I go with Donny on that; Tony.
I always tighten a screw just tight enough necessary.
My opinion on wheather or not it adds to or takes away sustain is: I haven't ever noticed one or the other difference; as compared to the many other factors involved in the total resonating/sustaining equation.
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Bill Ford
Member From: Graniteville SC Aiken
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posted 26 January 2005 03:57 PM
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For what it's worth, not wanting to start a war.....2 guitars,an S12, and a D10, both have the same pickups, Geo L,s.S12 has 5/4" maple deck/w 3/4" mahogany neck,3/4"skirts,laquer finish. D10 has 5/8" deck/w alum. neck,formica. Same person playing, same amp/"stuff",very little,if any difference. One was played,then moved and the other played. Bill |
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