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Topic: Carter at NAMM...new line...
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Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 26 January 2005 02:26 AM
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introduced the new professional MAGNUM Steel which is intended for dealers only..According to John this is a parallel Steel to the HOME brand of Carter..not a Starter...and is available only to Dealers... so I guess they are charting new territory.. not just building new Steels, but building NEW Business... congrats John, Ann and Bud.. t |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 26 January 2005 04:47 AM
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Congratulations John & Ann.I could use a few new lines myself....  |
Dyke Corson
Member From: Urbana, IL USA
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posted 26 January 2005 11:44 AM
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I played this guitar at the NAMM show and it was NICE!! Looks, sounds and plays great - should be a winner! |
Jimmie Martin
Member From: Ohio, USA
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posted 26 January 2005 02:01 PM
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who are dealers for carter? |
Paddy Long
Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 26 January 2005 04:24 PM
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So is this guitar placed somewhere between the "Starter" and "Pro" models ?? |
Bob Kagy
Member From: Lafayette, CO USA
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posted 27 January 2005 10:18 AM
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Trying to understand the Magnum, how it fits into the Carter line.We have the Starter, the mica and wood models as the mainstream line. How does the Magnum fit into this picture? Does it fit between the Starter & mainstream line, or does it have features which would make it surpass the mainstreams in terms of quality, size, price, etc. Anybody that's seen them or talked to John Fabian have any comments? |
Rick Schmidt
Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA
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posted 27 January 2005 11:27 AM
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I talked with John and Billy at NAMM and got to look at the Magnum up close. From what I could tell it was a more full featured PSG than the Carter Starter, but with a couple less frills than their made to order guitars. They also make them in double 10's and S10's (not sure about S12's?). It played and sounded great!As far as I know this is the only full featured, non custom steel guitar made available to music instrument dealers. |
Jesse Harris
Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA
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posted 27 January 2005 02:01 PM
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kinda like the Sierra Artist? |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 27 January 2005 03:04 PM
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The Magnum is a full bodied custom Professional Steel
for dealers..Not an intermediate Steel..
http://www.magnumsteelguitars.com/ good luck to John, Ann and Bud.. in the sales business we call this seeking new Cheese...
t |
Craig A Davidson
Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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posted 27 January 2005 03:15 PM
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The Performance steel guitar debuted by Jerry Brightman at St Louis is also a dealer guitar. |
Lee Baucum
Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier
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posted 27 January 2005 03:23 PM
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I see the Magnum has a quadruple raise/double lower system. |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 27 January 2005 07:42 PM
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The price list on that site shows the Magnum D-10 list price at $1100 more, and the SD-10 at $800 more than their professional guitars! I think we "professionals" would do better dealing direct. |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 28 January 2005 02:30 AM
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I think most dealers like GC and Sam Ash etc.. discount everything 30% to 40% out of the gate..which would bring them back to comparable pricing...The prices listed are suggested retail prices.. MSRP... These Intruments according to John are not available direct from Carter, only from authorized dealers. ex: Fender 52 RI..List price $2,000,000.00
on sale this week..$1259.... I think it's a retail thing... happy friday.. t[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 28 January 2005 at 03:22 AM.] |
Kim Altman
Member From: Wilmington, North Carolina, USA
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posted 28 January 2005 08:10 AM
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I was reading the post and it got me curious so I went to the website. I have clicked on the dealer link and nothing is happening. Is there something else I need to do. Thanks...Kim
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Webb Kline
Member From: Bloomsburg, PA
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posted 28 January 2005 09:50 AM
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I don't think they have it all set up yet.------------------
MCI D10 8+5, ZB 11/10 8+3 Early 30s Dobro, Harmony Lap Steel, ad infinitum |
Mark Switzer
Member From: Norwalk, California, USA
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posted 02 February 2005 12:44 AM
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The Magnums are 10-string only. Twelve-string players need to order a pro guitar direct.
Seemed like a nice guitar. |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 02 February 2005 03:14 AM
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For those who want a picture of it......here it is. http://www.magnumsteelguitars.com/
 Ron Nikaro SD10 4x6[This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 02 February 2005 at 07:55 AM.] |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 02 February 2005 07:00 AM
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quote:
I would like to see the pricelist.
http://www.magnumsteelguitars.com/faq.html#Cost |
Chris Forbes
Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA
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posted 02 February 2005 07:14 AM
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I don't get it? What's the difference between this and the regular Carter steel?  |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 02 February 2005 07:54 AM
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Major misstake...huh Jim?
I saw it when I looked at the page again.Ron Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
John Sluszny
Member From: Brussels, Belgium
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posted 02 February 2005 08:44 AM
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Chris,I don't get it either.A standard Carter D-10 from the factory costs US$ 2,895.00 |
Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 02 February 2005 08:52 AM
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I dunno,, maybe I'm crazy,but it looks like a Carter with a different nameplate.. no???? bob |
Bill Hatcher
Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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posted 02 February 2005 09:15 AM
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Looks like they are going after a music store market without sacrificing the sales to individual players. Carter for the players and Magnum for the stores. You got to figure that this might be a good business situation in that there are thousands of music stores across the world that might purchase a steel for in store stock aimed at new players as opposed to a much smaller group of dedicated steelers that buy instruments set up to their own specs. Sounds like a good way to expand their business. Make a production guitar, save money on NO frills, no custom set ups and try to market them to retail outlets. If they really wanted to make some money, they should sign Robert Randolph and put out a RR model guitar. Kids know who he is and kids hang in music stores and kids buy stuff their favs play. Fender and Gibson have all sorts of artist endorsed guitars which are mostly their basic models with just a little different thingy here and there. Marketing is everything. We should be happy that ANY new steel guitar is introduced into the market place. |
tbhenry
Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 12 February 2005 12:41 PM
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Doed a single ten magnum weigh less than a single ten carter?? |
Chris Haston
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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posted 13 February 2005 08:58 AM
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yeah, but it seems like it would be better to keep the name Carter. To spend that kind of money on a new steel, I wouldn't want the Musicians Friend version of a steel. |
tbhenry
Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 14 February 2005 05:01 PM
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Are these identical steel guitars with different labels?? |
Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 14 February 2005 05:13 PM
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No, there are many differences.
The Carters are more traditional. I'll leave the describing to John, if he cares to. You won't see Magnums at the Carter Booth in the Steel Conventions. That would conflict with their distributors. I think it's a great idea. There's many dealers that have sold Carter Starters, now a few years later, their customers are looking to move up. It's the next logical step. |
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