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Topic: Fender Steel
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Gordon Borland
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 02 May 2005 11:22 AM
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This belongs to a young man in his early twentys here at Alamo Music. His parents gave it to him as a birthday gift but he had no intrest in it.
It has been is storage for a few years. I hope someone can tell us about this steel.
Here is the link to the pictures. I added pictures of the knee lever at 2:46 CST.http://alamomusic.com/fender%20steel.htm ------------------
Gordon Borland
MSA D10,NASHVILLE 400,SESSIONS 2000,PEAVEY ADDVERB,SOME WIRES AND A BATTERY.
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Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 02 May 2005 12:11 PM
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Fender 400.. 8 string 4 pedals.. cable mechansim..No knees... Early model w/ "string breaker" bridge from what I can determine from the pics.. Most guys tuned these to D9 to avoid the string breakage problem... Later models [63 and up maybe??] had a revised changer that did not drag the strings, .. I believe it was closer to a modern changer system and helped the breakage.. VERY cool sounding steels... If you can play an 8 stringer with NO pedals.. LOTS of players made great music on these unique steel guitars... I imagine Jody or one of the other resident Fender guys will be able to elaborate further... bob |
Fred Glave
Member From: McHenry, Illinois, USA
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posted 02 May 2005 12:19 PM
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This is a mid 1960's Fender 400. I can't tell from the pictures, but it looks like one knee lever was added? The 400 is an 8 string single neck with 4 foot pedals I believe. I've heard that the exact year can sometimes be determined by removing the tuning peg tray. The factory worker would put the maufacture date and their initials there. |
Brian Herder
Member From: Philadelphia, Pa. USA
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posted 02 May 2005 01:48 PM
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It's a refinished late 50s-early 60s 400. The original bridge has been replaced with a home made roller unit, the legs look like they're from a table, and the original pedal rods are missing..the "new" rods are drilled into a different place on the pedals....unfortunate. Looks like the culprit etched his personal info in the end, too....at least he was thorough. |
Gordon Borland
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 02 May 2005 02:44 PM
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Thanks guys I knew you would have great information.
The name etched in the end is Karl Moore in San Antonio. I did a search to see if he is a member or had a post about him but no results. I pluged it in and it works. I wonder if anyone is into restoring these old Fenders?
Thank you again Bob, Fred and Brian. ------------------
Gordon Borland
MSA D10,NASHVILLE 400,SESSIONS 2000,PEAVEY ADDVERB,SOME WIRES AND A BATTERY.
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Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 12 May 2005 05:42 PM
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Exactly right, Brian. Go to the head of the class! |
Randy Gilliam
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 12 May 2005 10:43 PM
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Karl Moore Owns B. J s Southside Music. 9223000. I have Played That Steel Back in Early 70s. Call Karl he Might Just Want too buy It Back.He Is in San Antonio. |
Gordon Borland
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 12 May 2005 10:50 PM
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Thanks Randy. Some of the members wrote and told me about Karl and I did try to call him twice but did not get a return call. The young man that owns the steel has no intrest in it nor I but I just thought I would post anyway because you never know who might have an intrest is seeing it. ------------------
Gordon Borland
MSA D10,NASHVILLE 400,SESSIONS 2000,PEAVEY ADDVERB,SOME WIRES AND A BATTERY.
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 13 May 2005 09:39 AM
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Weird coincidence - I just saw someone in Chicago who was intersted in one of these, but he might need to up his price a little. The going rate on these has moved up a little lately.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/msg/72643178.html
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Gordon Borland
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 13 May 2005 09:57 AM
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John This guy might be looking for an amp rather than a pedal steel. Look at this link. http://www.timeelect.com/6550a-ex.htm
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Gordon Borland
MSA D10,NASHVILLE 400,SESSIONS 2000,PEAVEY ADDVERB,SOME WIRES AND A BATTERY.
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 13 May 2005 02:30 PM
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Gordon,
Thanks for the cool link. I'm sure you're right about that. Guess I have a one-track mind these days.  |
Casey Lowmiller
Member From: Wichita, Ks
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posted 30 May 2006 09:08 PM
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Gordon,I might be interested in your steel. Tell me more about it!!! I've been looking for a 400 to mess around with...since this one is already altered, I wouldn't have to worry about messing up a pretty guitar...this one's kinda nasty!!! Let me know if your student wants to sell. Thanks, Casey ------------------
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