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Topic: Newbie Sho-Bud Help
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Ted Wurzburg
Member From: Brockport, New York, USA
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posted 25 August 2005 12:56 PM
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I have been trying to identify this Bud that I bought off Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7344274797 It looks sort of like a Pro 1 or Professional but it has 6 P/1K configuration. It has the hex tuners through the end plate. It's in great shape and sounds wonderful but needs a couple of pedal rod extenders and some minor mechanical adjustment. I think I did ok for $600 and I'm sure someone would tell me if it was otherwise. |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 25 August 2005 01:30 PM
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That is a Single-10 Sho-bud made during the Baldwin Distributed Crossover D-10 era; in the very late 60's-1970-ish time.
It has a different changer mounting with wood wraparound neck; that was common for the crossover Sho-bud models; and the person originally ordering it; could choose how many pedals they wanted. The knee lever on yours was added and is not original to that Steel. They also came standard with a Tone and Volume knob with a Coil tap switch all on that ledge.
Right After that Model came the Professionals and single-10 Professionals. Pro-I's came even later than that.
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Ted Wurzburg
Member From: Brockport, New York, USA
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posted 26 August 2005 08:03 AM
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Ricky -Thanks! I originally thought it might be a Crossover because of the 6/1 configuration, but, according to the history, the Crossovers all had the basket mechanism which mine doesn't. It does have the coil splitter and Vol/Tone pots (which need to be cleaned). Would it make sense to replace 3 pedals with knee levers to make a 3/4? |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 26 August 2005 09:19 AM
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Ted; the Crossovers were Double-10 with a mechanism to link the pedals and knee lever to play one neck at a time. The single-10 made during that era(like yours) is not a crossover; but has some design characteristics that are similar. They called the racks that pull the barrel tuners> "Baskets"...and yours certainly has racks. All Crossovers and single-10 and Professionals had Racks(Baskets).
Yes; it would make sense to make it a 3 pedal 4 knee lever E9 pedal steel.
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Ted Wurzburg
Member From: Brockport, New York, USA
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posted 26 August 2005 09:33 AM
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OK. Now I understand. It sure would be great if PDFs of some of the original manuals / documents were avaliable. Sounds like a market opportunity. Thanks for all your help. It looks like replacing 3 pedals with KLs is pretty straightforward.Or, of course, I could just add the KLs and keep the pedals... |
Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 03 September 2005 09:13 AM
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i bought a baldwin 6139 new in 1970. there was not one scrap of paper that came with it let alone a manual. i had to make a frantic call to a friend to get it set up for me. it was very frustrating. i bought another one in '74. same thing. was there ever a manual? MANUAL? YOU DON"T NEED NO STINKING MANUAL!!! |
Ted Wurzburg
Member From: Brockport, New York, USA
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posted 03 September 2005 06:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure mine's a 6139, but I thought the Baldwins had the Baldwin name on the right front. I downloaded some ShoBud manuals off the Carter site but they are for the bell crank undercarriage with the nylon tuners and not the barrel/hex tuners. I guess I can figure it out with the help of Bobbe's maintenance video, but it's not for the fainthearted. |
Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 04 September 2005 08:03 AM
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my 70 had the baldwin name on the front and the wraparound wood neck. it listed for $700. i got it for $550. that was six weeks pay for me back then.[This message was edited by Gary Spaeth on 04 September 2005 at 08:06 AM.] |
Ben Elder
Member From: La Crescenta, California, USA
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posted 07 September 2005 01:02 AM
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There's a bit of help at Carter's website/this URL:
http://www.steelguitarinfo.com/downloads/OwnersManuals/index.html The first of the two is probably more relevant to your Sho-Bud. I have the use of a similar 6139 and I downloaded both S-B files, brief as they are. |
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