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Topic: The Real #3 Sho-Bud
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Al Udeen
Member From: maple grove mn usa
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posted 18 November 2005 03:09 PM
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In 1957 I went Shot Jacksons garage in Madison, Tn. to order the 3rd Sho-Bud double-neck guitar that was built, I ordered the guitar with a high G# as the 1st string, Ricky Davis has been kind enough to post some pictures that were taken a few months ago, back in those days, the E9 neck was on the bottom, In 1959, I sent the guitar back to Shot, and he converted it to a double-9, later in 59 I played this guitar on a live TV show in Tucson, Az. with several artists including Buck Owens and Wynn Stewart, You will notice on the pictures, that over the next few years, knee levers were added, along with a version of the Lucky Seven "ala Bill Hankey" string savers on strings 3 and 5, I still have this guitar with serial # 003 that I had Shot put on it for Insurance reasons, I know there has been a lot of controversy, as to who had the first Sho-Buds, but Jimmy Day got the first one,"Yes, I'm aware that Don Warden got the the 1st single neck Sho-Bud" Buddy Emmons the 2nd, & I got the 3rd, May God Bless Shot Jackson! Al Udeen[This message was edited by Al Udeen on 18 November 2005 at 03:11 PM.] [This message was edited by Al Udeen on 18 November 2005 at 03:18 PM.] |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 18 November 2005 03:58 PM
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I also got my first Sho-Bud at the beginning of the Co, (!957) At the time Shot told me also that Buddy Emmons got #1 and I think Pete Drake #2 and that mine was #3! However; I'll admit that I am not aware of the true facts about any of the early Sho-Buds. Jimmy Day told me his was #3 and Buddy says Jimmy's could have been #6. In the beginning Buddy built the bodies and Shot installed the pedals, so; who knows! I just know mine was very early on and I had it converted to a D-9 in 1960, with the high G#. My original was D-8 w/5 and in ’60 it became D-9 w/6. I never looked and never really cared what number it was!  ------------------
“Big John” Bechtel
Soon to be: New Burgundy D–10 Derby (w/6 & 8)
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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Al Udeen
Member From: maple grove mn usa
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posted 18 November 2005 04:47 PM
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I honestly believe that the first Sho-Bud that Pete Drake got, a few years later, was Buddy Emmons #2 that had Buddys name Engraved on the front & Pete put a metal plate over it with his name on it, Shot wanted me to sign my name when I got mine, so he or Buddy could engrave my name on the guitar & fill in the routing in black putty, as Jimmys & Buddys had, Didnt Pete come on the scene a few years later? au |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 18 November 2005 09:13 PM
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Yes and here are pictures of that Sweet Ride now>
Way Cool Al...and also want to thank Al Udeen for many history lessons he has given me....
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 18 November 2005 at 09:14 PM.] |
Tele
Member From: Andy W. - Wolfenbuettel, Germany
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posted 22 November 2005 02:59 PM
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Wow, thats a beauty ! I had one very similar to this, looked even a bit older/earlier. Now I don't care if it was #2 or 4 or 6..
wish I'd kept it, it sounded awesome |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 23 November 2005 12:18 AM
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And this is the one Andy ( Tele ) is talking about, originally built for Ben Keith and always referred by BE as the first doubleneck:
http://www.bigsandy.net/promo_pics.html |
Tommy White
Member From: Hendersonville,Tn., U.S.A.
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posted 23 November 2005 06:47 AM
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Al,
Man, what a beautiful Bud!
Saw Chad at the Opry a few weeks ago. He's a good kid and plays his fanny off.
Happy Holidays!
TW |
Al Udeen
Member From: maple grove mn usa
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posted 23 November 2005 09:14 AM
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Tommy! Thank You for being so kind, Wishing You & Yours a Happy Thanksgiving! au |
Chris Forbes
Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA
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posted 23 November 2005 11:04 AM
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Now that is cooooooool!!!!! On another note, Al, I have that Green Fessenden now that you traded to Paul Vendemmia. It was fun to see your son at a show we opened up for Andy Griggs and tell him "I have your old guitar and I've gigged on that one you have now!!." |
Al Udeen
Member From: maple grove mn usa
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posted 23 November 2005 02:28 PM
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One thing I should have mentioned regarding The #3 Sho-Bud, when I recieved the guitar in 1957, it did not have the inlay or the green necks & pickups, those were added in 59 when Shot converted the guitar to a D-9 also the Hearts & Diamond cluster decal was added in the early 60s, these early Sho-Buds were natural finish & rather plain looking compared to most of todays models! au |
Jerry Knapper
Member From: Roland, OK, USA
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posted 03 December 2005 10:04 PM
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Hi Al:
Glad to hear your story on the sho-bud. Hope you are doing fine.
Been a long time since Montevidio, MN.Jerry Knapper
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Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 04 December 2005 07:30 AM
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does anyone have a picture of the undercarriage? i'm wondering how the legs attach. |
Al Udeen
Member From: maple grove mn usa
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posted 04 December 2005 09:05 AM
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Jerry! Great to hear from you! Yes those were the glory days! seems like light years ago, Gary! I sent some pics, I hope they show the underside of #3 Al Udeen |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 14 December 2005 10:37 AM
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Hmm...I was always under the impression that the very first Sho~Bud was a single-neck, stand-up, one-pedal guitar made for Don Warden, who was Porter Wagonner's long-term steel player?I think we need Bobbe!  |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 14 December 2005 11:12 AM
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Sorry about the pics being gone....I'm over quota on the bandwidth of imagecave...ha.
Ricky |
Craig A Davidson
Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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posted 14 December 2005 11:48 AM
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Al most likely knows his facts. He used to work for SHO-BUD. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 14 December 2005 12:56 PM
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From an article by Buddy Emmons..."We sold our first Sho-Bud, an eight string single neck, to Don Warden, steel guitarist for Porter Waggoner." Read the whole article here... http://www.planet.eon.net/~gsimmons/shobud/buddy.html |
Fred Jack
Member From: Bay City Texas
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posted 14 December 2005 01:04 PM
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Donny, I think the key here is in the first line of AU post,"to order the 3rd double neck Sho Bud." [This message was edited by Fred Jack on 14 December 2005 at 01:05 PM.] |
David Wren
Member From: Placerville, California, USA
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posted 14 December 2005 03:37 PM
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Don't know what the serial number was, but when I saw that "Big Sandy" picture of the D8 built for Ben Keith, I would have sworn it was my Mother's first pedal steel. I was only 9 or 10 then, so this would have been sometime probably in 1960. My folks were friends with Pete and Jack Drake, and Jack Linneman (for those of you in the Nashville area around then) and they all helped Mom get this steel. Only specfic detail I know about it was Ray Pennington helped out in building it (which seems stange to me now). Anyway I learned my first licks on this guitar years later, and boy do I wish I had it now. I do remember the pedal rods were enormus diameter, and there were lots of holes in the wrong spot underneath. :-).BTW, if any of you Nashville folks know Billy Linneman (Jack's son), please tell him hello for me. Over the years I've lost all the contact info. ------------------
Dave Wren
'95Carter S12-E9/B6,7X7; Session500; Hilton Pedal
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David Wren
Member From: Placerville, California, USA
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posted 15 December 2005 09:55 AM
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I spoke to my sister in Utah last night, and she is going to look through my folk's gig pictures for a picture of this very old Sho-Bud... If I can get one I'll post it to share.
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Dave Wren
'95Carter S12-E9/B6,7X7; Session500; Hilton Pedal www.ameechapman.com
[This message was edited by David Wren on 15 December 2005 at 10:27 AM.]
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Bob Simmons
Member From: Trafford, Alabama, USA
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posted 21 December 2005 04:26 PM
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Hey, buddy, your giving up your age now.... love ya, Merry Christmas, your bud, Bob |
c c johnson
Member From: killeen,tx usa
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posted 28 January 2006 06:23 AM
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In late 57 I purchased a single 8 w/4 pedals and had a C6 tuning. E C A G E C A F. I was into pop standards almost exclusvly. It was BEmaple with rope binding and the desk of cards on the front. Fine little guitar. Also had a tone switch from real high to bluesy base.No endplates. CC |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 30 January 2006 12:25 AM
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This is just to show that there really was a very early Sho Bud in my earlier years! Unfortunately, at the age of 20 or even 24; I wasn't thinking about S/N's!------------------
“Big John”
a.k.a. {Keoni Nui}
’05 D–10 Derby
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15”
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Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 06:17 AM
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john. do you remember how the leggs attatched? still wondering. |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 30 January 2006 06:26 AM
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I once checked the guitar Jimmy Roy has, and if I remember correct, there were metal sockets in the corners inside the cabinet. |
Tele
Member From: Andy W. - Wolfenbuettel, Germany
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posted 30 January 2006 01:44 PM
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right !
Somewhere I must have some Polaroids of the undercarriage. I remember it was signed by Ben Keith |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 30 January 2006 04:14 PM
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Gary;
There was a right/angle Aluminum bar at both ends of the body, approx 1/4” thick and with a solid block at the front`end and back`end which was drilled out and tapped with the proper thread for the legs. It looked basically the same as todays modern style end~plates except for the fact that they were mounted on the inside of the body rather than the outside. Today, being on the outside, the end wood is eliminated. The bolt that held the bridge (fingers) in place also went down and through the right angle, holding it in place along with additional securing screws. The same proceedure took place with te Keyheads. The one end also had holes for mounting the output-jack and also long shafted Volume & Tone pots. (500K A-B Audio~Pots and .05uF cap.) _ _ _ _ If I recall correctly, on the T–8 Sho-Buds, the (2) right~angle pieces might have been cut in half and placed in the corners! But, I'm not sure about that, because that could have caused problems with mounting the hardware on the middle~neck! So, I'd better recant that last thought! I do remember that Shot did cut the right~angles for each corner when he built my 4-neck 10-str., but; it was not a PSG!------------------
“Big John”
a.k.a. {Keoni Nui}
’05 D–10 Derby
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15”
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Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 08:02 PM
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thanks john. great description. you missed your calling as a technical writer.thanks jussi and tele too.[This message was edited by Gary Spaeth on 01 February 2006 at 06:52 AM.] |
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