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Topic: Question on locking tuners
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Micky Byrne
Member From: Essex and Gloucestershire England
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posted 03 November 2006 12:36 PM
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I'm just wondering why a company hasn't used locking machine head tuners on Pedal steels, like some Fender and other 6 string guitars use. I know that Schaller and Sperzel make them. This way you still have keys rather than keyless, but the "ease" of one twist to lock the string  Micky Byrne United Kingdom www.mickybyrne.com [This message was edited by Micky Byrne on 03 November 2006 at 12:38 PM.] |
Bill Simmons
Member From: Keller, Texas, USA
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posted 03 November 2006 01:36 PM
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Bill R. at Williams Steel Guitars has use them for several years...great steels!! |
Micky Byrne
Member From: Essex and Gloucestershire England
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posted 03 November 2006 02:25 PM
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Thanks Bill, I double checked Bill's website, and see the locking tuners are an option. I worked the upper mid-west for 6 months in 1984, and a friend in Minneapolis showed me pictures of one of the earlier Williams steels that he had. Yes great steels. When I have more £pounds in my pocket perhaps............. Micky Byrne United Kingdom www.mickybyrne.com [This message was edited by Micky Byrne on 03 November 2006 at 02:26 PM.] [This message was edited by Micky Byrne on 03 November 2006 at 03:29 PM.] |
Bob Knight
Member From: Bowling Green KY
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posted 03 November 2006 05:24 PM
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Try to "touch up" a locking tuner while you are playing. |
Bill Simmons
Member From: Keller, Texas, USA
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posted 03 November 2006 05:54 PM
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I'm refering to the locking ones for holding the string for easy string changing...you still tune like normal... |
Twayn Williams
Member From: Portland, OR
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posted 03 November 2006 06:48 PM
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I don't think you could use a Sperzel/Fender style locking tuner on most PSG's very easily. The bottom of the "tightening screw" would be flush with the deck of the guitar and it'd probably be difficult to get a good grip on 'em. |
Cliff Kane
Member From: Long Beach, CA
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posted 03 November 2006 07:37 PM
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It sure would make changing strings faster. I've got them on my Strat and they're great. Is a keyless system similar were you insert the string, pull it taut, clamp it down, and then just wind enough to bring it to pitch? |
Micky Byrne
Member From: Essex and Gloucestershire England
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posted 04 November 2006 02:35 AM
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Hi Twayn,as mentioned in my post earlier above, check the William's website. He uses Grover "or" Sperzel "Locking" tuners as an option, so perhaps it works ok. As you know once the string is locked,as you would do on a keyless,you tune as per normal,like a regular machine head,so in reality the Locking need only be done on a restring....probably with a small plier for the extra grip. Sure will make string changing easier without all the winding,especially if it's in the middle of a stage gig Micky Byrne United Kingdom www.mickybyrne.com |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 04 November 2006 04:01 AM
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Mickey, I'd suggest that you just invest in a good (hand-crank) string winder, and then learn how to use it. They take a lot of the time and effort out of changing a string...since you can do 20 full turns of the tuning key in 5 seconds. |
Micky Byrne
Member From: Essex and Gloucestershire England
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posted 05 November 2006 02:32 AM
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Hello Donny, It was just an enquiry on the locking tuners. I have a "normal" string winder and have been timed on a stop watch by a roadie my band had, replacing a 3rd string at 45 seconds, from taking off to getting in tune for my part of the "ride" I always have my 3rd spare string ready next to me out of the packet, cutters and winder ready I work quick
Micky Byrne United Kingdom www.mickybyrne.com |
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