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Topic: C scales for E9th
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 25 May 2000 04:47 PM
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Here are some two-finger scales I've worked out. In the tab:b means lower string 1/2 step
# means raise string 1/2 step
X means raise string 1 step For this first one, you need to be able to raise your first and fourth strings, and lower your second string. Only the first 5 strings are shown, and the name of the note is under it.
F#_________1___________3___________4#__________6___________8________
D#___1___________3b__________4___________6___________8______________
G#____________1___________3___________4___________6___________8_____
E ______1___________3___________4#__________6#__________8___________
B __________________________________________________________________
e f g a f g a b g a b c a b c d b c d e
F#____________9#______________11______________13____________________
D#____9_______________11______________13____________________________
G#________________9_______________11______________13________________
E ________9#______________11#_____________13________________________
B __________________________________________________________________
c d e f d e f g e f g a
This next one uses strings 1, 2, 4 and 5. Note that the pedal is down on string 5 for the whole exercise. F#____________1___________3___________4#__________6___________8_____
D#______1___________3b__________4___________6___________8___________
G#__________________________________________________________________
E _________1___________3___________4#__________6#__________8________
B ___1X__________3X__________4X__________6X__________8X_____________
d e f g e f g a f g a b g a b c a b c d
F#_______________10______________11______________13_________________
D#_______10b_____________11______________13_________________________
G#__________________________________________________________________
E ___________10______________11#_____________13_____________________
B ___10X_____________11X_____________13X____________________________
b c d e c d e f d e f g
Please let me know if you spot any errors.------------------
 Bobby Lee quasar@b0b.com gigs CDs
Sierra Session S-12 (E9), Speedy West D-10 (E9, D6),
Sierra S-8 Laptop (D13), Fender Stringmaster D-8 (D13, A6)[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 26 May 2000 at 08:59 PM.] |
Earnest Bovine
Member From: Los Angeles CA USA
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posted 25 May 2000 06:30 PM
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Looks good, Bobby. Now how do you pick those notes? |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 25 May 2000 08:47 PM
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It could be done with one string per finger, Joe Wright style, but I just alternate thumb-finger-thumb-finger. |
Ingo Mamczak
Member From: Luimneach , Eire.
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posted 26 May 2000 04:03 PM
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You could also try fingerpicks  |
Steve Feldman
Member From: Millbury, MA USA
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posted 26 May 2000 04:39 PM
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Looks good, -b0b-. Just one teeny weeny error: 4th, uh, 4th tab, uh, 4th staff(?), maybe 4th group of strings (yeah, that's it) - 2nd string, change 10d to 10b (1/2 step lower).This gives the hands AND the knees a good workout! Thanks! |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 26 May 2000 09:00 PM
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I've fixed it. Thanks Steve. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 26 May 2000 09:36 PM
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Okay, here's the next installment. It gets troublesome at the 10th fret, where you need to lower the 3rd string half a step to maintain the picking pattern. If you don't have that change, you can get the same note by raising the 1st string half a step. but the fingering is trickier.
F#___________3_____3_________|___________4#____4#_______|
D#_____3b________________3b__|_____4_________________4__|
G#______________3____________|______________4___________|
E ________3___________3______|________4#__________4#____|
B __3X_______________________|__4X______________________|
e f g a b a g f f g a b c b a g
F#___________6_____6_________|___________8_____8________|
D#_____6_________________6___|_____8_________________8__|
G#______________6____________|______________8___________|
E ________6#__________6#_____|________8___________8_____|
B __6X_______________________|__8X______________________|
g a b c d c b a a b c d e d c b
F#___________10____10________|___________11____11_______|
D#____10b________________10b_|_____11________________11_|
G#_____________10b___________|______________11__________|
E ________10__________10_____|________11#_________11#___|
B _10X_______________________|__11X_____________________|
b c d e f e d c c d e f g f e d
F#__________13____13_________|___________15____15_______|
D#____13________________13___|_____15b_______________15_|
G#_____________13____________|______________15__________|
E _______13__________13______|________15__________15____|
B _13X_______________________|__15X_____________________|
d e f g a g f e e f g a b a g f
Again, I'm doing this in my head so if you spot any errors, let me know.[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 26 May 2000 at 09:36 PM.] |
Dayton Osland
Member From: Fox Lake, IL USA
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posted 27 May 2000 07:44 PM
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Thanks Bobby. I can't wait to get to work on this. Scale technique is so critical to creative work on any instrument.Dayton |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 28 May 2000 09:57 AM
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I agree. This is an interesting study. There are 7 positions (at least) for the C major scale on the E9th, but most of us only play 3 of them (the 1st, 3rd, and 8th frets). The "F lever" positions at the 6th and 11th frets are fairly obvious, but the remaining two are awkward because they use three changes.This study really brings out the folly of my own E9th copedent. I tune the second string to D and raise it to a D# with a lever. Well, 5 of the 7 positions use the D#. I should have studied the E9th a bit more closely 22 years ago! Like my Dad used to tell me, "Do as I say, not as I do." ------------------
Bobby Lee quasar@b0b.com gigs CDs
Sierra Session S-12 (E9), Speedy West D-10 (E9, D6),
Sierra S-8 Laptop (D13), Fender Stringmaster D-8 (D13, A6) |
chris ivey
Member From: sacramento, ca. usa
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posted 02 June 2000 09:06 PM
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gee, first a home for wayward steel players...and now free lessons....you're alright b0b!! |
Drew Howard
Member From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.
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posted 04 June 2000 07:30 PM
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b0b,Thanks for the lesson! Drew |
joe wright
Member From: Joelton, TN
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posted 05 June 2000 11:18 AM
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This is working with b0b's first scale exercise above. Let's look at it from a movement stand point!!We can instantly see that the right hand plays a pattern over and over. 2nd string/4th string then first string/third string...repeat! Like mentioned above I would play this with a second finger/thumb alternate, then third finger/first finger alternate. Another would be to use 1/t or 2/t alternate and change hand positions. Key to all of these is that they are in the alternate category. Probably the fastest way would be to use a 1/t 2/t alternate over and over. The thumb would have to move from string 3 to 4 after each move. Key is learning to start the lick on the first finger. Most players start only with the thumb and some can start with the second finger. Starting anywhere and moving any way you want is the key. If you have trouble executing this lick, then work on the right hand move without applying anything else. No bar, no pedals, no knees. Just execute the right hand move. If the rh doesn't work there's no need to apply pedals, bar or knees...joe |
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