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T. C. Furlong
Member

From: Vernon Hills, Illinois, USA

posted 02 June 2005 06:35 AM     profile     
I got the following email after I replied to an ad on the forum. I wasn't even the seller. I gotta think this is a scam. Do they use the word "advert" in Oklahoma? Do they say "Hope to read from you soon"?

This is what I got:

Hello,
I am Michael taylor,a manager at Hilton Agency (an insurance firm )in Roland,Oklahoma.I am interested in your advert (Gibson EH-275)and would love to know if this is still available for sale.Please,if available i will like to know the price and more details about it,send pics if available.Hope to read from you soon.
Thanks,
Michael taylor
Hilton Agency
Roland,Oklahoma,
USA.

As Louis Jordan would sing "Beware, Brother Beware"!
TC

Gary Ball
Member

From: Lapwai, Idaho, USA

posted 02 June 2005 07:17 AM     profile     
Hey TC I got the exact same email. I fowarded it to bOb and he said there is no registered member with that name.
Ron Steenwijk
Member

From: Greensburg,PA

posted 02 June 2005 07:21 AM     profile     
Copy the headers in your e-mail and mail them to Bobby D Hunter.Maybe he can tell you where it came from and if the man is a scammer or not.

Ron

Glenn Dawson
Member

From: Stephens City ,Virginia, USA

posted 02 June 2005 08:00 AM     profile     
I also received the same reply.
Ron Victoria
Member

From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA

posted 02 June 2005 10:25 AM     profile     
same here
Mike Archer
Member

From: Church Hill, Tennessee, USA

posted 02 June 2005 11:10 AM     profile     

i got the same junk are they trying to
make us think they are here in the USA??
Dan Beller-McKenna
Member

From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA

posted 02 June 2005 11:16 AM     profile     
Yup, got it too!

Dan

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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley s-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35

Charles Tilley
Member

From: Princeton, Texas USA

posted 02 June 2005 12:04 PM     profile     
T.C.

I got basically the same email in response to my Cougar I listed. I found out that there is a company in Roland, Okla. by that name. I am having a friend that lives there check on it. He is gonna go by and ask to speak to this Michael. Bet he don't find one though.

Charles Tilley

Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 02 June 2005 12:10 PM     profile     
I got it too, T.C.
Thing is I'd really like to keep my e-mail on here for my friends at SGF, but when stuff like this starts happening I end up pulling it off of here for awhile.

What's funny is this happened after I asked b0b to close my thread since I needed to keep the Derb for now.

Here's the bubbahead's e-mail. Bye bye.

mike_tay26@yahoo.com

Tracy Sheehan
Member

From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA

posted 02 June 2005 01:17 PM     profile     
Shortly after offering my steel and amp for sale i recieved two e mails.
One claiming to be from my credit card company saying my card would be cancelled if i did not upgrade my info.(A scam of course.) Another claimimg to be from pay pal of wich i am not a member.I hope all know now this is a scam.Tracy
Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 02 June 2005 01:24 PM     profile     
I notice that anyone can see a members e-mail by clicking on the link in their post. Is there an issue to making the members e-mail addresses private?

IMHO, it would be a good idea to have the e-mail address private, since any non-forum viewer can see our real names and city/state.

If this is a FAQ I'm sorry. I searched and couldn't find it.

Charlie

Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 02 June 2005 01:39 PM     profile     
Charlie, what you do is click "Your profile", submit your user name & password, then on the next page you can choose to have your e-mail address shown or not shown like I've decided to do for awhile.
Ron Simpson
Member

From: Darien, Illinois, USA

posted 02 June 2005 01:40 PM     profile     
Hi TC,

I'm happy to say I didn't get that email, but I did find the a map to FitzGerald's.

Ron

[This message was edited by Ron Simpson on 02 June 2005 at 01:41 PM.]

Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 02 June 2005 01:55 PM     profile     
Rex,

I just did that, but if I'm correct about what it does, then forum members can't see my e-mail address either.

I want to get e-mail from forum members, but not from scammers, e-mail harvesters, male enhancement drug purveyors and other non-forum lowlifes.

Charlie

[This message was edited by Charles Dempsey on 02 June 2005 at 01:57 PM.]

Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 02 June 2005 02:35 PM     profile     
Don't believe everything you read,i sent email to BOBBY HUNTER, DIDn't do it right,i guess, he said go ahead let them steel all your stuff and some more choice words. piss on him don't count on him to help you
farris
Tracy Sheehan
Member

From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA

posted 02 June 2005 02:53 PM     profile     
Hope this is the correct place to put this.As is said,there are two sides to every coin.I delete an mail i do not want or do not respond.The other side of the coin.Musicians i worked with or knew many years ago and i have made contact due to this forum.As one i recieved an e mail from just today said,isn't the internet and this forum great? You bet.Tracy
George King
Member

From: Woodlawn,Illinois

posted 02 June 2005 03:09 PM     profile     
I too received an email from Michael Taylor.Either it's a scam or he just wants to buy everything ....George
Ron Frederiksen
Member

From: Van Buren, Arkansas, USA

posted 02 June 2005 03:17 PM     profile     
Hey guys, I just got off the phone with Mr. J. Roberts, The owner of the Hilton agency in Roland, Ok. which is about 7 miles from me and he told me there is no one by that name at his agency...just another dummy trying to make a quick buck.. Don't take any wooden nickles and if you bite the coin make sure there are no teeth marks. Ron

"steelin is music to my ear"

Jack Goodson
Member

From: Georgia, USA

posted 02 June 2005 03:41 PM     profile     
I got the same exact thing from michael taylor, he wanted to buy my pro 3. so i just politely asked him for a phone number and never heard from him again. thanks jack goodson
Ron Victoria
Member

From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA

posted 02 June 2005 04:16 PM     profile     
Maybe he's a buying scout for The Guitar Center!!!
Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 02 June 2005 04:49 PM     profile     
Yeah, it's all or nothing, Charlie.
Good thing is you can always put it back up there.
I usually delete it when stuff like this happens. That's about as "moving target" as I care to be.
CrowBear Schmitt
Member

From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 03 June 2005 02:05 AM     profile     
i find it essential & a great service to mention these scammers here
alleviates a bunch of grief...
we're lucky to have Bobby D Hunter / Wizardo who get down on this nerds purty darn good.
as Ron suggests, send him either the whole email or the Internet header.


Ron Steenwijk
Member

From: Greensburg,PA

posted 03 June 2005 04:20 AM     profile     
CB...If you forward the mail to Bobby the headers will get lost.You have to copy them in YOUR mail.

Ron

Bob Carlucci
Member

From: Candor, New York, USA

posted 03 June 2005 05:41 AM     profile     
This crap is easy to spot.. I get it constantly..
be very afraid of anyone that doesn't give you his home phone#... I usually try to have a few phone conversations with an unknown buyer or seller...
The forum is different.. after seeing a guy post for several years and conversing with many people that know him personally, you usually know he/she is not out to rip you off... I think thats why most stuff sells so quick here... people trust the buyers and sellers... bob
Ron Steenwijk
Member

From: Greensburg,PA

posted 03 June 2005 06:04 AM     profile     
quote:
I usually try to have a few phone conversations with an unknown buyer or seller...

What if this buyer or seller lives in Europe Bob.That will cost you big-time.How do you solve such a problem?Do you call anyway and face a big phone-bill?

Ron

Donald Dunlavey
Member

From: Jonesboro, Georgia, USA

posted 03 June 2005 06:34 AM     profile     
Got the same e-mail, but his wording has improved, must have someone helping him. Reported spam. And just watching.
Bobby D. Hunter
Member

From: USA

posted 03 June 2005 07:59 AM     profile     
I have already blocked one ISP that this person is using, but would be happy to have a look at the newest scams from Michael taylor (spelled like that), just in case he switches proxy servers.

Please forward as an attachment from Outlook Express, or equivilant, or if you send via web based email, set the program to display the full headers, then forward it to me. Contact me first (via my email link above) if you need specific instructions on how to send these messages to me for proper tracking.

Dispite what this Farris person says about me I have single-handedly (and with the invaluable help of some of you guys) created a blocklist that denies access to hundreds of thousands of IP addresses in Africa, and almost all assigned IP addresses in Nigeria. I have worked on this project, at no cost to anybody here, since the summer of 2004.

With your help, and hundreds of hours of my own time, I have been able to reduce the number of scammers that pester you all to a trickle, where it used to be a daily occurance. I have personally reported dozens of these scam emails to SpamCop, of which I am a member. These reports are then sent to the ISP abuse personel and mail server operators through which the scams were sent.

I remain committed to fighting both spam and scams, as best I can, and hope you all will continue to assist me in this fight.

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Bobby D. Hunter
Security for SGF
Hunting down Slimeball Game
Reporting member of SpamCop

[This message was edited by Bobby D. Hunter on 03 June 2005 at 08:03 AM.]

Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 03 June 2005 09:33 AM     profile     
I am greatful to Mr. Hunter for his work. Fighting spam and scammers is theoretically a holy war, and not many people have the time or the guts for it.

But I still think that if you had to be a member of, and logged into, the forum to read profiles and e-mail addresses we'd get a whole lot less of this junk.

Charlie

Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 03 June 2005 10:05 AM     profile     
This may look familiar to some of you. I believe this clown finds his victims through the SGF;

__________________
From Mark C Mercer

Subject ASSURED FUNDS FOR YOU CLAIM IT

Dear ,

I am Mark Cole Mercer a solicitor at law. I am the personal attorney to Late Eng. William A. Dempsey, a national of your country, who used to work with Chevron - Development Company in Switzerland. Here in after shall be referred to as my client.

On the 21st of April 2000, my client, his wife and their three children were involved in a car accident along Kongresshaus, Zentralstrasse 60. All occupants of the vehicle unfortunately lost their lives. Since then I have made several enquiries to your embassy to locate any of my clients extended relatives.

After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to track his last name over the Internet, to locate any member of his family hence I contacted you.
I have contacted you to assist in repatriating the money and property left behind by my client before they get confiscated or declared unserviceable by the bank where these huge deposits were lodged. Particularly, the finance company where the deceased had an account valued at about USD$9.5 million dollars has issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account confiscated within the next Thirty (30) Working official working days.

Since I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 4 years now I seek your consent to present you as the next of kin of the deceased since you have the same last name so that the proceeds of this account valued at US$9.5 million dollars can be paid to you and then you and me can share the money. 60% to me and 30% to you and 10% will be used for any expenses.

I have all necessary legal documents that can be used to back up any claim we may make. All I require is your honest co-operation to enable us seeing this deal through.

I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in touch with me by my private email barrisableable@yahoo.com and send to me your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss further about this transaction.

Best regards,
Barrister Mark Cole Mercer

____________________________

Headers say this came from a ligit (throwaway) yahoo account. Maybe so.

Believe me, I don't usually read trash like this. I blundered across it scanning messages in a webmail ap. It sure smells like these other scammers we've been seeing on the forum.

"Assured funds for you claim it" indeed!

Charlie

Bill Bosler
Member

From: Schwenksville, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 03 June 2005 10:35 AM     profile     
Yup. I got one from Mr. Taylor after the thread was closed and he inquired about the wrong guitar. From now on I'll have to save this crap and forward it to Bobby Hunter. There really is very little of this dreck getting through now thanks to him.

[This message was edited by Bill Bosler on 03 June 2005 at 10:35 AM.]

Bobby D. Hunter
Member

From: USA

posted 03 June 2005 02:05 PM     profile     
quote:
Charles Dempsey wrote:
__________________
From Mark C Mercer

Subject ASSURED FUNDS FOR YOU CLAIM IT


This email is a perfect example of a 419 scam, 99% sure to have originated in Abuja or Lagos, Nigeria.

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Bobby D. Hunter
Security for SGF
Hunting down Slimeball Game
Reporting member of SpamCop

Bobby D. Hunter
Member

From: USA

posted 03 June 2005 10:40 PM     profile     
Here is an example of what you can expect to receive if you are foolish enough to reply to Micheal taylor (sic), or any other Nigerian scammers:
quote:

Hello (name deleted),
Thanks very much for your mail.The price is okay with me and the arrangment on pick up will be taken care by a local shipper which i have already contacted,so as soon as the transaction is sealed he will come for it.I want you to kindly consider the Fender Champion sold to me as I 'll be compensation you with additional $50 if this is done by you.
As regard the payment a client of mine who is owing me a sum of $3800 Who I 'll instruct to issue out a certified cashier's check in your Name,once you received the certified cashier's check,you will deposite it at your bank and after it clears you bank,you will deduct the cost of your Fender Champion include the compensation fees making $750 and the you will send the remaining outstanding balance to the wedding planner via Money Gram Money Transfer.If this is okay with you I want you to get back to me with your Name in full,contact Address so I can proceed instructing my client to issue out the check in your Name.I look forward to your response.
Thanks and have a nice day.
Micheal Taylor.........

This is a classic kited check scam, sent from a Nigerian Mugu Guyman idiot operating from an Internet Cafe in Nigeria.

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Bobby D. Hunter
Security for SGF
Hunting down Slimeball Game
Reporting member of SpamCop

[This message was edited by Bobby D. Hunter on 04 June 2005 at 01:15 AM.]

CrowBear Schmitt
Member

From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 04 June 2005 01:44 AM     profile     
yes Ron, i send the Internet header in a seperate email when i send the original scammer's email over to Wizardo

ISP scammer's # can be found using this link : http://www.dnsstuff.com/

identify the scammer's # in the Internet header first -
put it in " WHOIS lookup " box
left hand column : 3rd down - 1st blue header
notice that a scammer's email can go through 2 or 3 ISPs

[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 04 June 2005 at 05:36 AM.]

Dan Beller-McKenna
Member

From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA

posted 04 June 2005 04:01 AM     profile     
Oh Boy! Michael "small-t" taylor has some new friends!!

My guitar is cross listed on Craig's list, which is where I think these new ones are coming from. Meet "Lewis Harrison":

quote:
Good Day,
Am Lewis Harrison, I stay in U.K, I saw your advert and am highly interested in buying the { Carter Pedal Steel Guitar } which you offer for sale..

note the tell-tale field brackets around Pedal Steel guitar. Now meet "Terrance" (whose e-mail address is Bryce Scott). He must be the slow one in the gang: notice the garbled name in the bracketed field:

quote:
Greetings,
my name is Terrance, i saw your advert and i am highly interested in buying your { Guita }.i have seen the asking price and it is okay by me and I am giving you $50 to delete the post from the website. I will like to know the present condition,i also want you to know that the payment will be made thru USPS MONEY
ORDER or AMERICAN FUNDS CASHIER CHECK .pls get back to me
and let me know how you will like to proceed.
[...]
I await ur this information so that i can fax it down
to my client that will send payment to you. Hope this is
acceptable?

I can be reached on this number +447031842320
Email me as soon as possible.
REGARDS


I am very tempted to call the number: but I have better ways to waste my time.

Dan

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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley s-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35

Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 04 June 2005 07:34 AM     profile     
Time for FIFE. "Nip it!"

Hello Rex Thomas,
Thanks very much for your mail.The price is okay with me and the arrangment on pick up will be taken care by my shipper as soon as the transaction is sealed.I want you to kindly consider the 2002 Derby D-10 sold to me as I 'll be compensation you with additional $50 if this is done by you.
As regard the payment a client of mine who is owing me a sum of $6000 Who I 'll instruct to issue out a Certified check in your Name,once you received the check and it is Cashed ,you will deduct the cost of your 2002 Derby D-10 include the compensation fees making $3450 and you will send the remaining outstanding balance to my shipper via Money Gram.If this is okay with you I want you to get back to me with your Name in full,contact Address so I can proceed instructing my client to issue out the check in your Name.I look forward to your response.
Thanks and have a nice day.
Michael Taylor

What stinks here, though I didn't see this coming, I replied in the beginning that I was KEEPING the Derb.
Thanx to SGF for keeping us aware of this crap. I'm gone.

[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 04 June 2005 at 09:30 AM.]

Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 04 June 2005 09:30 AM     profile     
I am tempted to reply to Mark Cole Mercer (a solicitor at law :^) and tell him that, in fact, I am the long lost illigitimate son of the late Eng. William A. Dempsey. Small world, eh? He needs to wire me $2000 so I can afford a passport, a one way airline ticket to Switzerland and a week in detox.

Charlie

Tracy Sheehan
Member

From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA

posted 04 June 2005 02:50 PM     profile     
Question.How do thes people find out what credit cards you use and what bank you use? I have never put any of this info on the internet.Thanks.Tracy
Charles Dempsey
Member

From: The Cradle of the Stars.

posted 04 June 2005 03:16 PM     profile     
Tracy,

IMHO they don't. Spoofers use a shotgun approach; they find a working e-mail address and then saturate it with every kind of eBay, Mastercard, Visa, Chase and PayPal spoof you can think of. Some of it is bound to hit, and the ones that don't hit don't matter.

Charlie

[This message was edited by Charles Dempsey on 04 June 2005 at 03:19 PM.]

b0b
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, California, USA

posted 04 June 2005 03:46 PM     profile     
Got email from Mike Perlowin. He received the exact same scam letter from "Michael taylor". I think the guy spammed everyone with an ad in this section of the Forum.

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-b0b- quasar@b0b.com
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Mike Perlowin
Member

From: Los Angeles CA

posted 04 June 2005 06:22 PM     profile     
quote:
Got email from Mike Perlowin. He received the exact same scam letter from "Michael taylor"

I almost went for it too. Thanks b0b for alerting me to the scam.


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