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Jon Graboff Member Posts: 225 |
posted 14 December 1999 10:11 PM
How many of you later Sho-Bud owners have had any pot metal parts actually break on you? I know that pot metal ain't the greatest stuff in the world, but I've heard about people buying replacemant parts, anticipating breakage, and never using them. Any comments? |
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Ed Naylor Member Posts: 1827 |
posted 15 December 1999 05:47 AM
The Super- Pro and other Sho-Buds were great guitars except for the "die cast" problem.They break easily and wear faster than regular aluminum parts. I stock and produce replacement parts for Sho-Bud.I probably have the largest supply of Sho-Bud parts in the country.Many players opt to upgrade their guitar rather than put up with the problem of parts breakage. I work on lots of Sho-Buds- a great guitarIf you need a parts catalog call me at 1-800-749-3363 Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works.. |
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J Fletcher Member Posts: 172 |
posted 15 December 1999 06:14 AM
I bought an LDG a couple of months back, that was extremely low mileage. Broke the RKR knee lever base the 1st day! That particular part seems to be the one under the most stress. The other knees don't put the same type of stress at the same point....Jerry |
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Ed Naylor Member Posts: 1827 |
posted 15 December 1999 08:22 AM
J- the part you are talking about is the "Reversing" lever part# 731. I have them that are all aluminum and will not break. Ed Naylor SGW |
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Martin Abend Member Posts: 878 |
posted 15 December 1999 08:27 AM
Ed, since I'm thinking about buying an Super-Pro I'm wondering if it is easy to "upgrade" the pot metal parts or if it has to be done by a profesiional. You know, I mean somebody who knows what he's doing |
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J Fletcher Member Posts: 172 |
posted 15 December 1999 01:23 PM
Well it was pretty straight forward to replace the knee lever base, or whatever it's called. I got a new plated steel part from Al Briscoe, and total installation time was about 1/2 hour. I don't know what other parts are pot metal, the knee levers are, but other than that?? I'd like to know>>>Jerry |
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Ed Naylor Member Posts: 1827 |
posted 15 December 1999 02:17 PM
J Fletcher- All the parts under the guitarBell cranks, levers, are Potmetal except the cross shafts and mounting brackets.Martin-I have available replacement bell cranks that are steel and "quick change" and can be installed in less than 1 minute. Great for "add-ons" or emergengy repair at the studio or gig.Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works |
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Buck OBrien Member Posts: 230 |
posted 16 December 1999 05:20 AM
Lots of people seem to talk about how much those "die cast "parts break when they want to sell replacemsnts. I sure have never had any problems with breakage or wear. Don't ever shy away from a show-Bud because of this "over dramatized" problem. |
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Bob Knight Member Posts: 3117 |
posted 16 December 1999 07:37 AM
Buck, I agree with you. This is not a panic situation and you don't need to replace all these parts. I have owned a few Sho~Buds, and I think these parts are broken by hitting the levers with your knees as you sit down to the steel, or scooting your pac a seat under the guitar ie. forcing the levers forward instead of side to side. That is the only way I ever broke one. I learned better the first time. Yes, you should keep a spare.  Bob [This message was edited by Bob Knight on 12-16-99] [This message was edited by Bob Knight on 12-16-99] |
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Duane Becker Member Posts: 382 |
posted 16 December 1999 08:44 PM
I agree with Buck and Bob. I have 7 different models of Sho-Buds, including one of the every early Professionals, I play them all fairly regular, and have had just two parts break in 9 years. I play steel for a full time job-so they get used alot. I would never consider totally replacing the undercarriage all at once with the newer alum. parts-but I do have one or two extra parts on hand, just in case. Duane Becker |
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Bob Hoffnar Member Posts: 4278 |
posted 16 December 1999 10:37 PM
What do you guys do about those flimsey hardware store L brackets that Sho Buds use for pedal stops ? Its seems crazy to me that the some of the most beautiful(sounding and looking) steels use such cheap stuff underneath. Bob |
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Richard Sinkler Member Posts: 2896 |
posted 17 December 1999 07:19 AM
I have broken 2 or 3 of the lever brackets on my Super Pro. They were all on the left knee left. The leg tends to arc towards this lever and hits at an angle which is probably broke mine. Unfortunately, mine all happened while playing a gig. I would recommend changing these brackets so you are not forced to lose a lever for the night. |
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Leon Roberts Member Posts: 285 |
posted 17 December 1999 08:30 AM
I had one of the earlier Super Pros and had problems with the "E" lowering knee lever breaking. The guitar played like a dream, but I got gun shy about having to do without a knee lever half way through a 5 set night. I sold it and started on a quest to make my old PRO-III play as well as the super-pro. I got the later type triple raise,double lower changers from the Sho-Bud co. I sawed the later type pulling fingers out of 6061 aircraft aluminum.I made two plates to insure the changers pulled straight at all times.These plates were installed on some of the later model Sho-Buds. I now have a guitar that plays as easily as the super-pro, but on top looks like an old "DOUBLE-BUD'. Just an info note: Installing the super-pro changers in an older Sho-Bud can be done, but there is some modifing to deal with. It's not a quick switch situation. If anyone wants any more info on this subject, I will gladly share my knowledge by E-Mail. Leon |
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