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Bud Harger Member From: Temple / Belton, Texas |
posted 13 October 2006 07:28 AM
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These are rare, but somebody out there must have one...and wants to sell it. I'm looking for you! Please contact me by e-mail...I'm traveling right now, but have some access to e-mails...I'll get right back to you. Thanks, bUd |
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Robert Evens Member From: Loganville,GA 30052 USA |
posted 14 October 2006 05:50 AM
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I would like to find one too. ------------------ |
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Darvin Willhoite Member From: Leander, Tx. USA |
posted 14 October 2006 09:11 AM
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I think most of us would like to have one. Maybe someone should setup and make them, they shouldn't be too complicated. Brad Sarno??? ------------------ |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 14 October 2006 10:05 PM
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I have talked to Heet Sound, the makers of the Ebow, and they have no plans to make one like the old steel guitar one, but they are about to release a bass Ebow that should easily accomodate 2 strings on a steel. And it'll be strong as hell, too. |
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Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA |
posted 14 October 2006 11:25 PM
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There was one on eBay about three years ago with it's original box (showing a cool graphic of a pedal steel player), in great condition, and it sold for over $400. Very few 2-string EBows were made. They're as rare as hen's teeth. I read somewhere that these units had potted (sealed) electronics, and were not easily repairable. ------------------ |
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Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
posted 15 October 2006 12:13 AM
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only 200 were made, and of those, 15 didn't work and were trashed. Red Rhodes had one, which his widow still has, but she won't sell it. |
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Bud Harger Member From: Temple / Belton, Texas |
posted 15 October 2006 07:01 AM
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Thanks for your help. I knew it was a lost cause, but then "sometimes, you just don't know!" I have a 1-string model that I bought from Keith Cordell, that works great. I'll keep trying to find a 2-string. Can I get dibs on the first one that comes up on the Forum? Best regards, bUd |
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Mark van Allen Member From: loganville, Ga. USA |
posted 15 October 2006 08:23 AM
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The thing about the "steel model" ebow, was that the bottom shoe was sized to sit on two strings that were four strings apart, so that the two activated strings were separated by one non-activated string. In other words, you could play harmonies on strings 3 and 5, 4 and 7, etc. Tipping the bow front to back blended the strings to whatever amount you wanted. Very cool. The Bass ebow might be able to active two adjacent strings, but that harmony interval was the real charm of the original. |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 15 October 2006 02:34 PM
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The reason I actually called Heet was to find out about a repair to Mark's unit. They were epoxy potted and there is no known way to repair them. Enough guys get after Heet though and they may make some again- they don't perceive enough of a demand to make them now. Consider that Guitar Center sells on the order of 20 of thecurrent ones every day chainwide, meaning they are selling about 7500 a year- not counting all the other companies that sell them. They aren't likely to generate that kind of sales for this market if they made the steel guitar Ebow; but if they can get enough $$ out of each one, they might be convinced to make a couple of thousand to sell for a high markup. I know I would pay a dear sum of money for one. [This message was edited by Keith Cordell on 15 October 2006 at 07:26 PM.] |
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Kevin Mincke Member From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA |
posted 16 October 2006 06:08 AM
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I've got one of the original ones that had the thick leather case w/clip (shaped like the eBow) that attached to your belt. If anyone's interested I'll ask someone to post the pic. |
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Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth |
posted 16 October 2006 11:44 AM
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Kevin- is yours one of the 2 string models? I've got an original 1 stringer with holster... did they make a holster for the 2 stringer? |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 16 October 2006 12:17 PM
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I sent him a mail asking that, and his is the one string version, they never made a holster for the 2 string unit. |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 17 October 2006 09:42 AM
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I spoke this morning again to the fine folks at Heet sound, the makers of the Ebow. They were relatively unaware of the interest in these units, so I directed them to this thread just to make them aware of the discussions going on. The person I talked to also referenced Mike Perlowin as someone he had discussed this with. If you are interested in these, speak up and let them know that if they make 'em, we will buy 'em! |
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Pete Burak Member From: Portland, OR USA |
posted 17 October 2006 09:54 AM
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I'm interested. FWIW, I made an experimental 2 string version out of two one-string-ers. I put two one-string ebows on the strings, (you have to put one in front of the other), and cut and glued a piece of stiff cardboard to the top with rubber cement (which can be completely removed... in order to return to GC). Uhhh... it worked... but a two stringer would obviously be way better. |
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Mike Maddux Member From: Garden Grove, CA |
posted 17 October 2006 02:47 PM
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I would sure be interested...I love the one string e-bow ------------------ |
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Cliff Kane Member From: Long Beach, CA |
posted 17 October 2006 05:22 PM
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I love my Ebow, and I would absolutely buy a couple of reissues of the "steel guitar" two-string model. C'mon Heet! Please do it! |
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James Morehead Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 17 October 2006 05:29 PM
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I'm in. |
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Mark Krutke Member From: Tomahawk, WI USA |
posted 17 October 2006 06:16 PM
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Hey Bud, Get a hold of Albert Svenddal and try to talk him out of his |
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Mike Harmon Member From: Overland, Missouri, USA |
posted 17 October 2006 10:25 PM
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EBow's email address is: talkk@ebow.com And their phone number is: (213) 687-9946 Get in touch with them and tell them what you want! Mike |
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Alan Kirk Member From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA |
posted 18 October 2006 05:27 AM
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I sent 'em email supporting their making another 2-string model, with a suggestion for a design change. Because string spacing varies from guitar to guitar, and because steel players often play two notes that are separated by one or two strings, I suggested that any new 2-string ebow have an adjustable width feature so you could set it up to excite two non-adjacent strings. [This message was edited by Alan Kirk on 18 October 2006 at 05:27 AM.] |
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John McClung Member From: Los Angeles, CA, USA |
posted 19 October 2006 12:12 AM
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Imagine my discovering I have hen's teeth! I own the 2-string model, got it in the early 80's from Tom Bradshaw. It works perfectly, and I've never had problems with it luckily. I might consider trading it for a loaded Zumsteel SD-12... ------------------ |
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Bud Harger Member From: Temple / Belton, Texas |
posted 20 October 2006 01:05 PM
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Just to keep this going...I want my name on the list for a new 2-string EBow. Thanks, bUd |
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John McClung Member From: Los Angeles, CA, USA |
posted 20 October 2006 05:24 PM
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Bud, if you have a 4+6 SD-12 Zumsteel to swap, we can talk...  ------------------ |
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Paul Brainard Member From: Portland OR & Austin TX |
posted 21 October 2006 08:20 AM
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I've been working on a concept, basically think of it as a 10-string ebow: a row of electromagnetic poles (like a pickup) that could mount underneath the strings on a steel, controlled by a little strip of momentary switches to turn particular strings on and off. So you could play steel like some kind of a feedback organ. (I even though of calling it the "Brainbow". . .) I'll let you all know if I ever actually manage to put something together. |
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John McClung Member From: Los Angeles, CA, USA |
posted 21 October 2006 04:29 PM
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Paul, that's a great idea, one I was thinking about, too, resulting from this thread. While the 2 string Ebow is cool, my fave harmony strings are 5+8, and 6+10. Your contraption would give me that. Would a midi setup with a 10 or 12 string pickup be able to yield unending sustain like we want for any/all strings? ------------------ |
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Bud Harger Member From: Temple / Belton, Texas |
posted 21 October 2006 04:58 PM
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Paul Brainard: A great idea! I had limited my 'EBow' thoughts to "adjacent" strings...like 5 and 6. Your idea opens up all sorts of possibilities. I'm ready when you're ready. I want one of your gizmos! Best regards, bUd |
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Webb Kline Member From: Bloomsburg, PA |
posted 22 October 2006 07:51 AM
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When I got back into playing steel about 4 years ago after a long hiatus, I was surprised that the 2 stringer was no longer made. There have to be a lot more steelers out there today to support such a device--or better yet, the 10 stringer--that it would warrant producing something like that. I'd be one of the first on the waiting list. |
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Paul Brainard Member From: Portland OR & Austin TX |
posted 22 October 2006 12:48 PM
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If you do some searches on "sustainers" you'll find a lot of people messing around with similar things, mostly for guitar. Basically it's a feedback amplifier that takes the signal coming from your guitar, amplifies it, and sends it back as an electromagnetic signal (basically a backwards pickup.)An ebow has 2 poles, one a pickup & one an "activator." To do this for individual strings you need a separate pole for each one - I figure you could just tap into the output of your pickup for the generating signal. But midi pickups are a possibility for the "activator" since the individual strings are separated. There's one device called the Sustaniac that provides physical feedback and bolts on to the headstock of a guitar, I though about tyring that for steel but the builder doesn't think it would work unless you have fretted strings to transmit the vibrations. All it would take really is a quick trip to Radio Shack. . . |
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John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
posted 22 October 2006 02:08 PM
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I'd buy a 2 string one in a second... I have 4 single string units... |
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Bud Harger Member From: Temple / Belton, Texas |
posted 22 October 2006 03:03 PM
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Paul, Is the Sustainiac builder forgetting that the tone bar would provide the 'vibrations' similar to frets? I think it might work just fine. Go for it, Paul. Thanks for your efforts. bUd |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 23 October 2006 04:53 AM
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I am in the process of putting a Fernandes Sustainer on my Fender; It is a pickup shaped device that vibrates all the strings over it at once, and you mute the ones you don't want. Not going to be easy to learn to use though. |
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Paul Brainard Member From: Portland OR & Austin TX |
posted 24 October 2006 07:25 AM
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Bud, I have to think that the Sustaniac would work at least somewhat on a steel, but the builder said he had considered it - maybe even tried it, I'm not sure. They run a few hundred bucks so I'm hesitant to order one when I've been warned not to & might not be able to return it if it doesn't work out. Maybe if I can find one to try. . . Keith, same idea, the main difference with what I'm thinking of is being able to turn individual strings on & off. Maybe I'll add a switch to turn them all on at once. Have fun with yours! |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 25 October 2006 05:59 AM
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I'm sure it will be fun. I still want to see the Ebow though, if it ever becomes possible. Enough interest and it should be a no brainer. |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 25 October 2006 06:00 AM
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dupe post... [This message was edited by Keith Cordell on 25 October 2006 at 06:01 AM.] |
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Mike Maddux Member From: Garden Grove, CA |
posted 27 October 2006 08:38 PM
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funny I was lloking in the vintage guitar guide today and the pedal steel ebow is listed in there...they took the time to put it in the book... BTW it was listed at about $50-100 as far as value ------------------ |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 28 October 2006 02:57 AM
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That is hilarious, Mike. I'll double that if anyone wants to "take advantage of me" and sell one. |
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Paul Brainard Member From: Portland OR & Austin TX |
posted 30 October 2006 08:51 AM
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Well I went ahead and got a Sustainiac model C to try, they charge a $20 restocking fee to send it back so I thought I'd at least find out if it worked. It's pretty cool, but I don't think I'll keep it. This is the model with a floor box and a transducer that clamps on to the guitar & provides physcial feedback, which is a great idea. The problem is it's hard to drive the body of a pedal steel. Also the feedback tends to turn into a high-pitched harmonic fairly quickly. It actually worked quite well on my little Magnatone Troubador lap. Anyway I'll post it in For Sale in case anyone else wants to check it out but otherwise I'll send it back. PS I've been looking for a source for the input & output coils that are used in an Ebow, the company won't sell them & I don't know if they are available otherwise but if anyone has an idea please let me know! |
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