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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 05 June 2000 06:18 AM
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From www.tipworld.com Hank Williams III, the oldest son of Hank Williams, Jr., and grandson of Hank Williams, Sr., has stopped playing songs from his current country release, Risin' Outlaw, on his current tour. Instead, he is performing the thrash metal and punk rock he used to play when he was a teenager. His manager, Joe Azar, recently said that it's unlikely that Hank III will record any country music in the foreseeable future. Instead, he is planning to devote himself to movies (he will be appearing with Tom Waits in the forthcoming "Cadillac Tramps") and rock and roll. Hank III inherited his ornery streak from his father and grandfather, who were famous for doing things their own way. [This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 05 June 2000 at 06:19 AM.] |
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Ron Page Member From: Cincinnati, OH USA |
posted 05 June 2000 06:44 AM
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Those are two pretty long shadows for Hank III to get beyond as a country singer. He's probably better off doing his own thing. |
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Steve England Member From: Austin, TX |
posted 05 June 2000 10:49 AM
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That's good news. I had the misfortune to see this nasty little boy do his "country" set once. Never again. He seemed like a nasty opportunist, unpeasant kind of kid to me. The kid rosk of country. Do we need a kid rock of country?? He proably ain't doing the country any more 'cause he can make a heap more money doing whatever the othe rstuff he does is called (sounded the same as his "country" set to me) |
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BJ Bailey Member From: Jackson Ms,Hinds |
posted 05 June 2000 10:58 AM
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He want be able to support his drug habit on my money. ------------------ |
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randy Member From: shelbyville, illinois, usa |
posted 05 June 2000 01:23 PM
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My little brother went to see him in St. Louis, (I think), because he heard he is playing metal type music, (my little brother's favorite). He said "the guy suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks" and that he seemed like he was faking it...whatever that means nowdays. Just passin it on. |
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Chris Bauer Member From: Nashville, TN USA |
posted 05 June 2000 02:39 PM
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Say what you will but I had the opportunity to work in Hank III's band at one point and it was one of the most 'true' country gigs I've ever played. There's no doubt that he's not everyone's taste but, unlike a lotta what/who's out there these days, he CLEARLY was singing from the heart - a heart that's got some rough edges, maybe, but from the heart none-the-less. A lotta folks on the forum talk about having a problem with the blandness of most comtemporary country. Let's not also jump on someone for actually showing their grit. |
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Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX |
posted 05 June 2000 02:54 PM
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My kudos to Chris Bauer for hipping me to Hank III's best moniker, "Tricephus."  ------------------ |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 06 June 2000 04:19 AM
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OK so he is Country,He does stink tho. Maybe he ought to start a duet with George Hamilton the Fifth. Speaking of a fifth , they would sound pretty good if you listen after consuming a fifth.Can't wait for Hank #4.Hey maybe he could duet with his Aunt. At least he carried a Steel.------------------ |
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Jack Stoner Sysop From: Inverness, Florida |
posted 06 June 2000 05:21 AM
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I've heard him on the Opry when he first started, with Bobbe Seymour on steel, and at the time I thought the only reason he was there was because of his name, not his talent. Maybe if he had worked on it, "in the trenches" for a couple of years and learned his trade he could make it as a country singer. Could it be he was "forced" into doing the country thing, because of his heritage, but he really wanted to do something different?? |
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dixieflyer unregistered |
posted 06 June 2000 05:30 AM
A friend of mine met Hank III when they opened for him in D.C. and he said that Hank was a hellraiser. After the show back on the bus he said they sang a few songs and had a big ol time...He said that he seemed like he wanted to make his own name...Popular or not its working. Robby |
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Mark Tomeo Member From: Danville, PA USA |
posted 06 June 2000 06:46 AM
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Say what you will about his attitude, H3 played some of the most honest, earthy honky-tonkin' country this side of BR5-49 or the Derailers (both of whom look and sound like phony-ass cover bands by comparison). Like it or not, country music - real country music - is about heritage, among other things, and H3's got that in spades. Geeze, y'all complain about how terrible the slick, pretty-boy, overproduced, modern country-pop singers are and how they're ruining the music, but you can't take (or don't recognize) the real deal when you hear it. The funniest thing of all is that his grandfather got exactly the same reception for the same set of perceived flaws - his music was too crude and raw, he was too much of a hellraiser, he drank and did drugs, he had a nasty disposition and didn't show the proper respect for country music authorities. But 10 minutes after he died, he became St. Hank, the holy icon of American rural music. Mabye it's the country music audience - not the industry - that's schizophrenic. |
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Paul C Member From: Orlando, Fl |
posted 06 June 2000 08:44 AM
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I have no earthly idea of what H3 does off stage, and haven't seen his live show either. But I did buy his album. There was a couple of tunes I thought were so-so, but I also thought there was some that would do his grandpa proud. Rough edges may be true, but if he puts out another Country album, I'll give it try based on the first one. It may be rough and unrefined, but what I heard was refreshingly pure and a welcome addition to Country Music. I doubt many here would have liked their daughters to have brought home George Jones in his younger days either. Let's hope for the best, we could use something different. |
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John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
posted 06 June 2000 09:29 AM
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Chris, Mark and Paul |
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Kenny Dail Member From: Kinston, N.C. 28504 |
posted 06 June 2000 04:52 PM
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I think Hank Sr. had many "rough edges". As in Hank Sr.'s case, the rough edges enhanced his vocals and seemed to give him identity and personality that the average country music lover or singer could relate to. Hanks ability to write songs about life as viewed/lived by the average working man didn't hurt his career either. ------------------ |
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Greg Simmons Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
posted 06 June 2000 06:54 PM
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I'd say fellow forumite Bob Blair and myself lucked out several months back when we saw H3 come through town with Big Jim Murphy on nonpedal steel and the guy (Don Herron) from BR-549 on fiddle. It was a true-honkytonk(with a few departures into rockabilly) evening with some sublime stuff played by Mr. Murphy. He's coming through town again in about a month with "Reverend Horton Heat" but if it's the "punk thing" I think I'll pass - unless I can get a comp ------------------ |
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 06 June 2000 09:15 PM
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I spoke w/ Big Murph a while back,& he told me that the reason he left,was because H3 was gettin' a little too "rocky" for his liking. ------------------ |
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Chad J Udeen Member From: hendersonville Tn |
posted 06 June 2000 11:08 PM
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Hank 3 is a good guy with a deep heart,and he is truely honest to a fault,(he has gained the respect of people like George Jones,Johnny wright and kitty Wills and Jimmy Dickens to name a few on the road and he is true to real country music,alot of time all we would ever listen to is :Waylon,Buck,Merle,Carl Smith, Hank sr.Ernest Tubb ,etc on the bus..i think he could of been the biggest thing going in country music right now, had he played it right,but hes doing it his way,and thats hes biggest stance"doing it his way".The album"Rising Outlaw" has most all the musicians listed wrong on it.Dan Dugmore played lap steel on most tracks and Kayton Roberts played lap steel on 1 song and i played pedal steel on 1 song,and i think youll find that the cd is truely country... |
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Chad J Udeen Member From: hendersonville Tn |
posted 06 June 2000 11:12 PM
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and Bobby Seymour gets the credit for the Tricephus "moniker".. |
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Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
posted 14 February 2002 06:41 AM
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Hank III seems to dearly love real country music.He does the first hr.country and then warns everyone to leave if you came to hear country because he is going to rock.His fiddle player is fantastic and the bass player is very good.He does look and sound like HANK.I will buy his new cd. |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 14 February 2002 06:46 AM
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Andy! Haven't you got anything better to do than to go around dredging up and reviving old threads?? Geez, man! I'd completely forgotten I started that one. Next time I see you, you'll probably be dressed in old threads! Yo, dude! Get a life!  |
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Steve England Member From: Austin, TX |
posted 14 February 2002 07:58 AM
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Amen to that Jimbeaux, I must have been in a really bad mood when I posted on this thread, |
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Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
posted 14 February 2002 08:11 AM
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Jim, This thread is alive and not needing reviving.The thread was a natural place to talk about Hank III.The steel guitar forum is where we can share our thoughts and learn from others.Should all older threads be closed to the members of the forum? |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 14 February 2002 08:33 AM
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Of course not, Andy. I was just pullin' yer leg. Don't take me too seriously; nobody else does! Cheers, Jimbeaux |
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Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
posted 14 February 2002 08:34 AM
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Do we want to lock down all older threads locking out our fellow members from sharing their thoughts?Knowledge is a growing thing.I hope the forum will continue to be a place where we can learn and grow. |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 14 February 2002 08:43 AM
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Andy, if your email address were available, I'd send you a personal apology for misleading you with my humor. Sorry, man. jc |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 14 February 2002 09:50 AM
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....reading through the posts above, I seem to remember almost the same comments being made about Hank Jr when he was a teenager and the promoters were trying to make him into a copy of his daddy.....he eventually found his own "place" in the music world with his own audience as I'm sure Hank III will eventually do..... www.genejones.com |
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Michael Garnett Member From: Fort Worth, TX |
posted 14 February 2002 06:00 PM
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Speaking of Bocephus not playing into the "Nashville" mold, while still collecting the money, how many of y'all have his newer album "Stormy" (1999)? Man that's ANOTHER great one! Personally, I like the aptly named "Tricephus" as a good continuation of "outlaw country." I like anybody who can look the big man in the the face and tell him where to stick it, especially when it comes to music styles. Garnett |
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Derek Duplessie Member From: La Jolla CA USA |
posted 16 February 2002 08:07 PM
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Now is this H3 metal or cow punk?Judging by the way he looks or has looked, he looks cow punk.But as i'm sure we all know,looks are very decieving these days. p.s. If H3 is country's kid rock,will the real kid rock go away?(just a thought) -Derek |
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Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
posted 17 February 2002 05:28 AM
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It's E. Pleasant's fault  [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 17 February 2002 at 05:38 AM.] |
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Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
posted 17 February 2002 05:50 AM
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His latest cd sounds like Hank never died.Is it 1952? |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 17 February 2002 10:12 AM
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I'm sure his music isn't as bad as it sounds. |
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erik Member From: |
posted 17 February 2002 12:22 PM
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Jim, looks like Andy put his email address in the homepage slot. Put your reading glasses on, Jim.*
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erik Member From: |
posted 17 February 2002 12:49 PM
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I just listened to some cuts of his new CD. It sounds "dated". What's he trying to do? I expected to hear something cutting edge. |
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Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
posted 17 February 2002 04:07 PM
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It depends what you call cowpunk, now I always thought that Jason & The Scorchers were the most fake-a$$ band around, just revved heartland rock. Now, if you want to talk about the Knitters, X, the Slaughtermen and the Blasters.. well I dig that messed up swagger. If H3 (I love that) falls between BR549 and the Blasters, heck I'd be down the front doing the pogo! |
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Janice Brooks Moderator From: Pleasant Gap Pa |
posted 20 February 2002 04:15 PM
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I think this CD holds up well beside his 2000 release. The influence on me was that I went out and bought Springstiens Nabraska after listening to samples of Atlantic City. Hank upped the tempo. ------------------ [This message was edited by Janice Brooks on 20 February 2002 at 08:25 PM.] |
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Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
posted 20 February 2002 04:54 PM
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He played outside of Rochester a few months ago and was pretty bad doing the rock stuff. Sounded like a garage band. Too bad, because we do a couple of his country tunes in my band. I really like his "Risin Outlaw" CD. I thought his country band was great. |
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chas smith Member From: Encino, CA, USA |
posted 20 February 2002 07:21 PM
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I haven't heard what he does, but can you imagine the pressure and expectations that kid is under. |
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P Gleespen Member From: Lakewood, OH USA (I miss Boston!) |
posted 22 February 2002 06:11 AM
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I'm on the fence, I think. I like both those cds, but it sometimes sounds like he's trying too hard. It's got to be hard to be in his shoes, that's for sure. Two things I can say for sure though: |
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