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Steve Feldman Member From: Millbury, MA USA |
![]() Got a wild hair and decided I wanted some of my old RB albums on CD. Got the anthology 'Sweet Dreams' in the mail today, and I'm listening to 'Five String Blues' as I write. I saw Roy at Carnegie Hall in the '70s and was just absolutely blown away. Amazing way back then, and just as moving today from 'the best unknown guitarist in the world'. |
RMckee Member From: Muldrow, OK, USA |
![]() Roy brings out dual thoughts/emotions in me. On the one hand, I feel really, really inspired to woodshed. However, once I do begin to woodshed and notice the difference in the sounds from my Tele and the sounds from his Tele, I want to just throw mine in the creek! Absolutely amazing what he could do. So sad, his unfortunate passing. |
Peter Dollard Member From: |
![]() I think he died in jail under questionable circumstances: Something about hanging himself, never did get the true story. Loved "Sweet Dreams"...after hearing him play it the only person I like singing it is Emmylou Harris. |
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
![]() Another interesting story, apparently he hung himself in a holding cell. I believe he was picked up for drunken behaviour at the time. There was a real question of how on earth it happened. To be honest, though, I found Roy's solo albums a bit tedious after a time. Of course I've never heard the Snakestretchers album, and I've heard that it's a real classic. [This message was edited by Jason Odd on 23 February 2001 at 03:34 PM.] |
Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
![]() Jason, I have a vinyl copy of the "bootleg" album, "Buch and the Snakestretchers" in my music library. Since it is a "bootleg" album,the quality is not very good. But,as a friend of mine once said,"Muddy water is better than no water at all!" In the early '60's,Buzz Evans & myself stopped by his apartment in "Philly" to try & catch-up w/ him but,one of the neighbors said that "they took him away,for observation". Finally did get to see him,here in Nashville,at the Exit Inn,& he "wowed" 'em,as expected. ------------------ |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() My dad was friends with Roy so I used to get snuck into bars to hear him. The Buch and the Snakestretchers recording is amazing but so is that first "official" album he did locally with the band he played with. Jason, Your comment about what Roy should have or would have done makes me uncomfortable. He was a real person with alot of music in him. He used to play these long wild solo introductions to standards. Sometimes they would last 10 minutes. Beautiful long arching improvized compositions. Sometimes real pretty and sometimes pure hot dog. Onetime he found himself in some spanish cadenza thing and worked his way out of it with what sounded like a It is a real shame he left us when he did. Bob |
Jack Stoner Sysop From: Inverness, Florida |
![]() i got to hear him in either 69 or 70. He was playing at the Crossroads bar in Lanham, Md. He worked there for quite a while. |
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
![]() Bob, I have no doubt that Roy was a real person with feelings and talent, in fact I am majorly impressed with his playing. It's just my personal opinion that his solo albums were lacklustre, his playing remained top notch, but quite often I felt the material was poor. His first solo album from 1972 remains my favourite of his official releases. I have the compilation that has a few tracks from his 1969-1970 aborted solo album, which were pretty cheesy Nashville rock blues pop with great guitar. I feal that he always worked well under pressure, and that pressure was the constraint of a little two and a half minute rock number. His death was sad, suspicous and upsetting, none of which has any bearing on my musical taste and appreciation. |
Steve Feldman Member From: Millbury, MA USA |
![]() This anthology that I got has a 12 minute solo at the end of Disc 2 entitled 'Dual Soliloquy'. I personally like his 'Second Album' the best - that's the one that really gripped me back in the early 70s, and it was the one that was clearly the most focused on the blues. I think I bought this anthology just to have a few selected cuts from that album on CD. Like I said, I could listen to 'Five String Blues' - to me, one of, if not THE most soulful blues things I've ever heard on a guitar - all day long without getting tired or bored. OK, OK, so I bought a new toy recently (Tele) and I'm having delusions of grandeur... |
Bill Sharpe Member From: Hermitage, TN 37076, USA |
![]() Jack: What a small world........I used to hear Roy at the Crossroads, but I believe the Crossroads, (at Peace Cross), was in Bladensburg, MD. On occasion, Roy and friends would stop in where I was playing, at the Village Barn, in Suitland, MD. Some interesting times ------------------ |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() ...I saw Roy Buchanon at the Fillmore East in NY in the early 70's, had my feet on the edge of the stage while he was playing right in front of me to a relatively small house...I recall that he dropped a pick and I pocketed it...he was awesome as a player.. |
Steve Feldman Member From: Millbury, MA USA |
![]() You pickpocket! |
Jack Stoner Sysop From: Inverness, Florida |
![]() Bill, probably was Bladensburg. That was a few years ago. I worked (day job) in Dodge Park at the time. |
daynawills Member From: Sacramento, CA |
![]() I had long looked for a 45 of Roy playing on a song called "The Jam". One day I ran across a guy who made me a copy on CD. The song was by Jimmy somebody, can't think of his name at the moment. Anyhoo, great tune. Has anyone else heard "The Jam"? |
bill ramsey Member From: danville va |
![]() yep. peace cross was in bladensburg md. roy played there with friends of mine. singer by name of danny denver whose real name was sammy goins. bass player buck tickle and others. buck is living here in danville, va. now. he was over her a few months back showing me pictures of roy and the group. great picker for sure. ------------------ |
Mitch Drumm Member From: santa rosa, ca |
![]() dayna: i think "the jam" was by a guy name of bobby gregg, who roy played with for a while in the early to mid 60s. recorded on the epic label. there was that single, and i think an lp, but i am not sure how much roy picked on the lp. saw buchanan only once--in cotati, california, circa the early 80s. |
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
![]() Mitch, I believe you are right, although there are a couple of Bobby Gregg's that is the one that Roy recorded with, can't quite remember the history of those two though. The British Walkers 45 I Found You/Diddley Daddy (Try 502)1964 with Roy, Bobby 'the Kid' Howard on vocals,who had worked with Link Ray's Raymen for all you trivia buffs. I used to have a great list of Buchanan related sides, but lost it when my PC was hit by a virus in late '99, and as fate would have it, I also lost the collectors email. Oh well. |
Michael Johnstone Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA |
![]() Ok - I got a Roy Buchannon story.In 1970,I was playing guitar in a rock band called "Rooth" around D.C. - up and down 14th St.and also in a lot of the joints in Georgetown like the Silver Dollar,etc. Well,everybody used to tell me I had to hear this guy named Roy Buchannon who made it to all the jam sessions.I played mostly 6 nighters and on my night off I would always go clubhopping trying to find Roy.I'd arrive a a club and they'd say "You should have been here 30 minutes ago-Roy sat in and tore the house down!" Finally,the ex-drummer from Rooth,Mike Walls aka "Pokey" called one day and told me he was now playing w/Roy down at the Crossroads.I drove out on a Sunday evening,ordered a beer and a plate of crabs and the band came on and - no Roy.The band played a set w/out him and on the break I asked Pokey what's up and he said "Man-am I glad to see you-Roy didn't show up-did you bring your guitar?" So there I was filling in for Roy - holding my own(I guess),playing top 40 songs like "Them Changes" and "Proud Mary" thru Roy's Vibrolux(which he used to turn around facing the wall)and I STILL hadn't met or heard Roy.On the next break,I was formally introduced to the band which included a singer I'd met before named Chuck Tilley,an amazing organist named Dick Heintze and a bass player named Danny.Finally,it was time for the last short set and Pokey asked me if I played any bass because Danny was also a real good guitar player.I said sure so Danny grabbed my Gibson SG,I grabbed his P-Bass and we did a little blues shuffel.Well,Danny turned out to be Danny Gatton and by the end of that set I was asking myself - Roy WHO? Over the next few weeks,I did more hanging out there,met and heard Roy a number of times and hung some more with Gatton as well-who I guess was just filling in on bass for a few weekends.One night Danny was cranked out of his mind and during every break he would go the dressing room and play amazing 5-string banjo for the whole break.I noticed a red 10 string student model Emmons set up in the corner so I said "Lets hear that thing" and Gatton said "You don't want to hear me play that." Another night,Roy was drunk and full of pills and not playing too well and he came into the dressing room and announced that he sold his soul to the devil and that's how he got so good.Danny just laughed and said "Well,you ain't too good tonight M*****F*****..." Those were two strange but very talented dudes.There's more to both their deaths than is commonly known,by the way. -MJ- |
Steve Feldman Member From: Millbury, MA USA |
![]() Ha! Great story, Michael. So then, 2 questions: 1) did he ever play the steel, nd P.S. Looking forward to the Murph CD.... [This message was edited by Steve Feldman on 26 February 2001 at 06:38 AM.] |
Chuck S. Lettes Member From: Denver, Colorado |
![]() I must have been at the same Roy Buchanan l970s concert at the Fillmore East that Pat Burns mentioned. I remember seeing Roy play there with a very average band. What I also remember, besides the great guitar work, was seeing Roy in front of the Fillmore at the end of the show, standing by himself while waiting for a cab. It surprised me that such a great guitarist was alone after his performance. It's too bad he was never more recognized during his life time, but I guess that's the way it is for many artists. Roy was one of my favorites, and I miss him. Chuck |
Michael Johnstone Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA |
![]() I did hear Danny pick a little steel eventually and it sounded great to me-although I was still a year away from playing steel myself so I'm not sure in retrospect how far along Danny actually was.I suspect since he was hanging around w/Buddy Emmons that he was plenty far along-he certainly had his fingerpicking together.He played a lot of demonically fast banjo roll kinds of things-I remember that.I also remember reading years later that he finally gave up on it after playing w/Buddy.Roy played w/his amp like that to cut down on the stage volume.Even backwards he had such a piercing tone that he could clean your teeth from 50 yards away.By the way,lots of guys - myself included,used to turn our amps around in certain situations in those days for the same reason.I also remember Roy's wife dropping him off at the gig in a beat up old station wagon w/her hair up in curlers and Roy gets out with his Tele all wrapped up in a beach towel w/an army belt holding it all together.I asked him "Where's your case?" he said "I can't find it..." -MJ- |
Craig Stock Member From: Westfield, NJ USA |
![]() Danny played some real tasty Lap Steel on a song called 'Tragedy'on the 'Cruisin Dueces'CD. It's a great song that I beleive other steel players show cover. Don't knpw much about it other than that. I had heard that Danny had lost his best friend, Billy Windsor and I faintly thought they said Danny had gotten sick or thought he was which may have led him to his eventual fate. I saw him once opening for John Mayall in NYC, and was totally Blown away. I have pretty much everything of his that is available and love it all. Danny RIP. ------------------ |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() I met Danny at my very first recording session in Silver Springs Md. He was just finishing up a steel session. Us dumb high school hippie kids just looked at him with our mouths hanging open. Gatton was a god of sorts around that town. He said "I can make this thing sound like a gawddam sitar !" And then played this whacked out batch of riffs. "Betcha didn't know I was such a great steel player ! " Then he split and we stood around all stunned for a while saying things like " F...in' A man ! That was Danny Gatton !" to each other. |
Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
![]() Mitch, I used to have a copy of "The Jam" (pts.1 & 2) by Bobby Gregg & Friends,but somewhere between the move from Mass. to Tenn.,it got lost. ![]() ------------------ [This message was edited by Smiley Roberts on 26 February 2001 at 11:23 PM.] |
John Lacey Member From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada |
![]() Roy played in Toronto about '74 in a club called "McKenzie Corner House" which was a converted underground garage. He did the backward amp thing and blew us away. Rest easy, Roy. |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() I saw a copy of "Buch and the Snakestretchers" on a CD with the burlap bag and all at The House of Musical Traditions in Tacoma Park Md about a year ago. |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() ...Chuck, that Fillmore show would have been in 1971, shortly before the Fillmore closed for good..I was there with my friend ever since 1st grade, Buffalo Joe (they didn't call him Buffalo in 1st grade, of course)...we're still good friends to this day.. |
John Rickard Member From: Phoenix (It's A Dry Heave) AZ |
![]() Roy was and is an old Guitar Hero of mine. He has alot of ties to the Pittsburgh area (my old stompin' grounds). Some of the players on his albums and live band are still playing around the "Burgh" Bird Foster-Drums, Billy Price-Vocals (Billy Price & The Keystone Rhythm Band). When I was still in high school some friends and myself rode the bus all the way into town to see Roy (many miles from the country). We were at the "Stanley Theater" (now a parking lot) and Roy was halfway through the set makin' the Tele scream when all of a sudden one of the seats a few rows in front of us started to billow clouds of white smoke. It turns out that someone in the audience spilled their smuggled in pure grain alcohol and it ignited (probably on a joint) and started the place on fire. Mayhem broke out and people were panicking and scrambling for the doors except for me and my buds (we continued to watch Roy through the smoke). The funniest thing about the whole deal was that the four of us were watching Roy in a burning theater until the firemen threw us out, and even as we were on our way out of the smoke filled theater, Roy was still playing!!!!!! He was "Bad A$$"!! JR ------------------ |
Dan Tyack Member From: Seattle, WA USA |
![]() Roy was definitely a huge influence on me. It's been a long time since I did any serious listening to his playing, but to this day I get musicians asking me 'so how much Roy Buchannan did you listen to'. That's an honor. ------------------ |
Rich Paton Member From: Santa Maria, CA., |
![]() At one point (when Mick Taylor left, I think), Roy was asked to become a member of the Rolling Stones. He declined the offer, stating it would be a pain in the butt to learn all those songs. Along the road not taken, would he still be alive had he gone with that route? I'm not very convinced that his death was a suicide. Remember the demise of Sam Cook? Was that a case of JHS (jealous husband syndrome)? That's the feeling I got about the reason for Roy's death. Or did he p*ss off someone in the hoosegow? Realistically, probably only he and God can say for sure...and so far, nobody's talking! And... what really happened to Danny Gatton, anyway? There's yet another weird, unexplained tragedy, IMHO. BTW, I'd say (from what I've heard, anyhow), Roy's effective use of the guitar volume knob for musical expression is probably without peer. |
Michael Johnstone Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA |
![]() The way I heard it was Roy was out of control on booze and dope,the cops were called,Roy resisted arrest,choke holds were applied in his front yard and again later at the police station-at which time Roy stopped breathing and his suicide was conveniently "arranged" but he did NOT hang himself. In Danny's case,the story goes that he had been promised front money for a small label record deal(20 grand was what I heard) Simultaneus to that,his wife got a bonus at her job of approximately the same amount.Now Danny had a weakness for collecting and restoring old cars and it seems he jumped the gun and basically spent his wife's bonus on either an old car or parts for an old car,and then his anticipated record deal/advance fell through.Well-his wife,like many musicians' wives,was the long suffering breadwinner-the one with the steady job-and she was no doubt greatly perturbed by Danny's impulsive and irresponsible behavior.The ensuing marital discord as well as depression over his failed record deal and lackluster career in general combined with his bi-polar disorder and drinking problem apparently drove him to suicide.An inventer to the end,word is that Danny went down into his garage,mounted a .22 rifle in a bench vise and fashioned a rube goldberg contraption replete with strings and pullys rigged to pull the trigger from in front of the rifle-then did so.Both these stories come from close friends of Roy and Danny who I've known for over 30 years and I've heard basically the same stories from other sources as well. Sad tales...both. -MJ- |
Rich Paton Member From: Santa Maria, CA., |
![]() Michael, thanks for the explanation. Just to imagine that such a talented, true musician like Danny was jerked around in a record deal is profoundly sad in itself. The sadness in the end result there is beyond words. Your take on the Buchanan tragedy sounds right on, now I dimly recall reading pretty much the same details when it happened. I was just going through a Western Swing fiddle book, looking for some tunes to play at an upcoming festival...and wound up reading a chapter about Spade Cooley, another sad tale. The beat goes on and on... I'm at a loss for cheerful words now. Take care, friends. > OK, I shook off some of the gloom, and now I've got to throw another great Roy Buchanan song into the fray here. On the Alligator records (a good blues label, whose first recorded artist was Hound Dog Taylor) 20th anniversary, two-CD compilation set, released about ten years ago, is another spooky minor blues tour-de-force of a blues tune, on which Roy sang and played otherwordly lead on, which of course was raw, gut-wrenching & way over-the-top. I don't recall the title, and have lost the CD's, but you should check it out for inclusion in your collection of great spooky, raw, gut-wrenching otherwordly over-the-top Buchanan performances that are captured live on a record. The theme of the tune deals with a dog killed by a train, while he was bird-dogging a foxy she-dog near the tracks and therefore was oblivious to the freight bearing down on him. Anyone here know the title? I want to hear it again! [This message was edited by Rich Paton on 02 March 2001 at 10:55 PM.] |
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
![]() Ugh, didn't know the story on Danny, very sad. With Roy B... well I'm actually of the opinion that it was a set-up hanging, after all, isn't a holding cell rule that anyone showing any sort of stress, aggrevation or violence should be stripped of things to hang themselves with? Suspicous. |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() ...that's the rule, Jason...
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Bob Hayes Member From: Church Hill,Tenn,USA |
![]() I was just browsing this part of the forum and seen some of the post from Mike and Jack about Roy B and Dannt Gatton..Seems like old home week..The '70 in the DC area.I've got a couple of memories of Roy. Played a gig with him and Danny Denver (writer of "The Mountain of Love") at the a club in Laurel,Md (I think the California Club) that was BFCH(before Carnegie Hall) HOW DID ROY Buchanan get to Carnegie Hall?. He was great...He never took care of that tele! sometimes didn't have a case,or couldn't find it, or broke it, or lost it. The guy could pick..drunk or sober. He told me that he got a better sound with the amp backwards. I think I was playing bass then. I had to pick Danny Denver and him up to get to the gig. I forgot Who was playing drums..but he was good. Danny always had good musicians..But all had attitudes. (what musucians don't) I remember one night (I was with another band) we stopped at a restaruant in Waldorf,Md.Every body stopped there after gigs. Roy and Danny were there.Roy had broken his wrist or arm..He had a cast on.Had his Tele, all scratched up. didn't have a case..He was drinking coffee and just fooling around playing chords and singing songs with Danny..just messing around. Roy realy Needed coffee that night..I guess every night..But what an incredible talent. I met Danny Gaton at the Crossroads (or somewhere in that area) too. I think I might had played with him one time or another. Clyde Bloodsworth did the album with Emmy Lou (her first) in Silver Springs.Md. Clyde was great..a nice guy..but never never helped carry band equipment in or out of a gig. Only his own stuff. He tolerated my "Lead Guitar playing". I was mediocre..but got the job done..(and got a lot of dates). Smiley..talkin of old places...just got back from Sringfield...the whole North End has changed..couldn't find any of the old bars that we played! |
Bob Hayes Member From: Church Hill,Tenn,USA |
![]() This is to Bill Sharp. Bill I played at the Barn to but later..when I went back to DC area in 8o's. But I used to go listen to Pancake Norris there and at the Senate INN. I played at the Dipper in Beltville (as well as other places) in the early '70's. Contact me @ Grouchyvet@gateway.net need to talk to you Bob Hayes |
Bob Hayes Member From: Church Hill,Tenn,USA |
![]() Bill Ramsey Contact me "per Danny Denver and Roy Buchanan" Grouchyvet@gateway.net Bob Hayes part of the old DC gang |
Geoff Brown Member From: Nashvegas |
![]() Rich, I think the tune you're refering to is "Drowning on Dry Land". "...don't you know that dog..he lost his poor head...tryin to find a little piece of tail..." It's on "Dancing on the Edge" released on Alligator in '86. Roy's done so many incredible solos. Without showing a bias towards his earlier music (which, overall may be his best to some), this particular solo is as good as anything I have ever heard him play on record. It's absolutely gut-wrenching. I remember pulling the car over the first time I heard it and rewinding the tape about a hundred times. I was almost in tears listening to him on this cut. His guitar just pulled me in so far that I could hardly stand it. I guess ya had to be there ![]() Best version of that tune I've ever heard. Anyway, Roy had some good moments on those Alligator recordings. I love that first album with the Snakestretchers too. I miss him. This is a great thread. Thanks to those of you who shared your stories. Pretty interesting stuff. |
Jeff A. Smith Member From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A. |
![]() Maybe to most this is obvious, but since the older tube amps (like a Vibrolux)didn't have master volume controls that allow distortion to be had at low volume, the amp had to be turned up a ways to get the proper sustain and grit. Then a guy might want to turn it around, or put a blanket over it to take the edge off. Putting a power attenuator between the amp and speaker allows the amp to distort at low volume also, but word is that this may shorten the lifespan of the output transformer. Ditto to the above sentiments on Buchanan and Gatton. Miss them both. |
James Bissaillon Member From: Omaha, NE, USA |
![]() Interesting thread, thanks for the info Michael Johnstone and all. I've not checked out Danny or Roy. Don't know why, especially as much as my father, Buzz, speaks of Roy. I guess it's time! James |
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